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RE: The London Thread - 8/8/2011 11:49:41 PM   
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Good night all, keep safe each and everyone of you,

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RE: The London Thread - 8/8/2011 11:59:26 PM   
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JIm empty your PM box!

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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 12:01:54 AM   
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okay, soz, have done xx

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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 12:19:36 AM   
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reported non fatal shooting in croyden bout 30 mins ago, not heard anything else about it yet

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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 12:33:43 AM   
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Just seen some of the videos on twitter, the stuff on the BBC is tame in comparison.

Not that you guys would do otherwise but please stay indoors and stay safe until this blows over!

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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 12:34:16 AM   
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links hood?

I don't have twitter...

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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 12:35:20 AM   
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so apparently a house on the next road has been bricked.

don't know how reliable this is but I want to go check because I don't want to worry. And my grandparents are helpless in a situation like this.

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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 12:40:37 AM   
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Here's one video, I was genuinely scared for those riot police when they were attacked!

http://yfrog.com/0wtduz

There are others, they're on the top right. There's so many messages on twitter right now I can barely keep up.

[EDIT]

Another one here of a pub on fire (click rotate a couple of times a few seconds in).

http://www.twitvid.com/HOPZ2

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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 12:43:34 AM   
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the worst pic i've seen so far
no one who causes this to happed can be deemed worthy of anything, just weak, mean arseholes

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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 1:03:36 AM   
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Just to lighten the mood.
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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 1:10:38 AM   
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Coz that's the first thing you think about nicking during a looting spree.


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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 9:38:15 AM   
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You're forgetting DJ Satan is a died in the wool "they can do no wrong" Conservative.

Of course if this had been Blair or Brown sitting on their arse while cities burn...


I'm not Conservative and didn't vote for them at the last election.

But it's better than being a biggoted Labour supporter who tries to pin everything on the current government, even if the root cause has been festering for years under the last lot.


My mistake, but saying Cameron shouldn't be coming back immediately because he can do just as much on his jollies is stupid.

And, yeah, let's blame Labour for everything.


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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 1:26:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: matty_b

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quote:

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You're forgetting DJ Satan is a died in the wool "they can do no wrong" Conservative.

Of course if this had been Blair or Brown sitting on their arse while cities burn...


I'm not Conservative and didn't vote for them at the last election.

But it's better than being a biggoted Labour supporter who tries to pin everything on the current government, even if the root cause has been festering for years under the last lot.


My mistake, but saying Cameron shouldn't be coming back immediately because he can do just as much on his jollies is stupid.

And, yeah, let's blame Labour for everything.



I think we should stop politizing this situation. I'm not saying that there isn't problems and issues we all have with the way this country has been and is being run, but let's not give these little shitbags some form of a soap box, and most of all any kind of excuse, for the things they are currently doing on the streets, I don't liken this at all to what has happened in France of Greece, these people have this mentality in them anyway, you can see that from the pictures and the videos and the way they have grouped up and in some scenarios cleverly planned these attacks and assaults, we are all angry at the economy, the cuts and the black hole this country seems to be slipping into but we are not all out there doing this so let's not hand them any kind of reasoning, they don't deserve it.

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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 1:29:24 PM   
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Oh, I totally agree Goodfella. This would have happened regardless of who's in power.

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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 4:33:52 PM   
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Heartbreaking listening to the owner and his brother of the shop on fire in Croydon. Built in 1857 and 5 generations of the family have run it. They arrived just as the thugs were running out of it having torched it but as the fire crew couldn't get there, it just went up in flames


Made me cry listening to them both, they were both so devastated.



We bought our Dining table, chairs and coffee table from them about a month ago for our new place. They were really nice and had pics up inside of the place from many years ago. I was looking at one of the pics above the guys desk and he was telling me about it being a family run business for over 100 years. Now some mindless scum have destroyed it.

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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 5:07:11 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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Heartbreaking listening to the owner and his brother of the shop on fire in Croydon. Built in 1857 and 5 generations of the family have run it. They arrived just as the thugs were running out of it having torched it but as the fire crew couldn't get there, it just went up in flames


Made me cry listening to them both, they were both so devastated.



We bought our Dining table, chairs and coffee table from them about a month ago for our new place. They were really nice and had pics up inside of the place from many years ago. I was looking at one of the pics above the guys desk and he was telling me about it being a family run business for over 100 years. Now some mindless scum have destroyed it.


Seconded. I will be sadly intrigued to see just how many people have been left unemployed by the end of this madness at the end of it, god willing that's very, very, very soon.

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RE: The London Thread - 9/8/2011 6:25:42 PM   
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I think we should stop politizing this situation. I'm not saying that there isn't problems and issues we all have with the way this country has been and is being run, but let's not give these little shitbags some form of a soap box, and most of all any kind of excuse, for the things they are currently doing on the streets, I don't liken this at all to what has happened in France of Greece, these people have this mentality in them anyway, you can see that from the pictures and the videos and the way they have grouped up and in some scenarios cleverly planned these attacks and assaults, we are all angry at the economy, the cuts and the black hole this country seems to be slipping into but we are not all out there doing this so let's not hand them any kind of reasoning, they don't deserve it.


Well said/written. These mindless toss-pots are not doing this for political reasons, they are opportunist bastards ruining innocent people's lives.

The looting and arson attacks have made its way to the East Midlands now in Nottingham. This is unfortunately where 24 hour news coverage only aids the looters

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RE: The London Thread - 10/8/2011 1:58:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ref


quote:

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I think we should stop politizing this situation. I'm not saying that there isn't problems and issues we all have with the way this country has been and is being run, but let's not give these little shitbags some form of a soap box, and most of all any kind of excuse, for the things they are currently doing on the streets, I don't liken this at all to what has happened in France of Greece, these people have this mentality in them anyway, you can see that from the pictures and the videos and the way they have grouped up and in some scenarios cleverly planned these attacks and assaults, we are all angry at the economy, the cuts and the black hole this country seems to be slipping into but we are not all out there doing this so let's not hand them any kind of reasoning, they don't deserve it.


Well said/written. These mindless toss-pots are not doing this for political reasons, they are opportunist bastards ruining innocent people's lives.

The looting and arson attacks have made its way to the East Midlands now in Nottingham. This is unfortunately where 24 hour news coverage only aids the looters


Dare you to pop over onto News and Hot Topics and state that first part. Over there this is an act of social decline and lack of opportunities, we'll forget the fact the BBC have already released messages passed between many of the rioters and looters which is visible proof that many of them are members of gangs and are not intent on making a point with the politics and stateheads of this country, but rather getting their hands on as many stolen items as they can.

The disturbances do seem to have started to switch now from the capital to further up the country, although the acting chief police commissioner has said that some 80 arrests were made in London last night, whether they are connected with the events of the previous night or where in relation to events that took place then and there are yet to be confirmed.

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RE: The London Thread - 10/8/2011 2:09:36 PM   
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Dare you to pop over onto News and Hot Topics and state that first part. Over there this is an act of social decline and lack of opportunities, we'll forget the fact the BBC have already released messages passed between many of the rioters and looters which is visible proof that many of them are members of gangs and are not intent on making a point with the politics and stateheads of this country, but rather getting their hands on as many stolen items as they can.



I mean, no one is actully saying that. Everyone is saying this is crimminal rooting. What they are saying though, is that for such a culture to exist, there has be some reason, beyond "they are evil and need to be killed".



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RE: The London Thread - 10/8/2011 2:10:43 PM   
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Dare you to pop over onto News and Hot Topics and state that first part. Over there this is an act of social decline and lack of opportunities, we'll forget the fact the BBC have already released messages passed between many of the rioters and looters which is visible proof that many of them are members of gangs and are not intent on making a point with the politics and stateheads of this country, but rather getting their hands on as many stolen items as they can.


As you should know, that's a pretty gross misrepresentation of the debate in that thread.  The point that has been made repeatedly (but that you have continuously chosen to ignore) is that  recognising that there are underlying social problems in the area does not mean that you side with the looters and rioters, or even think they're anything but opportunist criminals.  Rather it is recognition that quelling the riots won't necessarily make the problems disappear.

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RE: The London Thread - 10/8/2011 2:28:32 PM   
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Dare you to pop over onto News and Hot Topics and state that first part. Over there this is an act of social decline and lack of opportunities, we'll forget the fact the BBC have already released messages passed between many of the rioters and looters which is visible proof that many of them are members of gangs and are not intent on making a point with the politics and stateheads of this country, but rather getting their hands on as many stolen items as they can.


As you should know, that's a pretty gross misrepresentation of the debate in that thread.  The point that has been made repeatedly (but that you have continuously chosen to ignore) is that  recognising that there are underlying social problems in the area does not mean that you side with the looters and rioters, or even think they're anything but opportunist criminals.  Rather it is recognition that quelling the riots won't necessarily make the problems disappear.


At what point have I said anything im my above post about "siding with the looters." I've said that it's being claimed an act of social decline and lack of opportunities, which has been directly stated on News and Hot Topics. So your reply is a gross misrepresentation of my above post isn't it?

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RE: The London Thread - 10/8/2011 2:32:53 PM   
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quote:

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Dare you to pop over onto News and Hot Topics and state that first part. Over there this is an act of social decline and lack of opportunities, we'll forget the fact the BBC have already released messages passed between many of the rioters and looters which is visible proof that many of them are members of gangs and are not intent on making a point with the politics and stateheads of this country, but rather getting their hands on as many stolen items as they can.



I mean, no one is actully saying that. Everyone is saying this is crimminal rooting. What they are saying though, is that for such a culture to exist, there has be some reason, beyond "they are evil and need to be killed".




Where's that last quote from? It's not from one of my posts? That's funny, given how many accusations of twisting words I had thrown at me yesterday.

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RE: The London Thread - 10/8/2011 2:33:42 PM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: sharkboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Goodfella


Dare you to pop over onto News and Hot Topics and state that first part. Over there this is an act of social decline and lack of opportunities, we'll forget the fact the BBC have already released messages passed between many of the rioters and looters which is visible proof that many of them are members of gangs and are not intent on making a point with the politics and stateheads of this country, but rather getting their hands on as many stolen items as they can.


As you should know, that's a pretty gross misrepresentation of the debate in that thread.  The point that has been made repeatedly (but that you have continuously chosen to ignore) is that  recognising that there are underlying social problems in the area does not mean that you side with the looters and rioters, or even think they're anything but opportunist criminals.  Rather it is recognition that quelling the riots won't necessarily make the problems disappear.


At what point have I said anything im my above post about "siding with the looters." I've said that it's being claimed an act of social decline and lack of opportunities, which has been directly stated on News and Hot Topics. So your reply is a gross misrepresentation of my above post isn't it?


Again Goodfella, the social decline and lack of opportunities are being discussed in the context of quite clearly crimminal behaviour - but they are the conidtions for such an event to happen. That is a distinction that has to be made.

No one is saying these are poor innocent lambs, but at the same time what is being said, is what is the background to all of this, that let riots of the scale across the country, take place.


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RE: The London Thread - 10/8/2011 2:34:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

quote:

ORIGINAL: Goodfella

Dare you to pop over onto News and Hot Topics and state that first part. Over there this is an act of social decline and lack of opportunities, we'll forget the fact the BBC have already released messages passed between many of the rioters and looters which is visible proof that many of them are members of gangs and are not intent on making a point with the politics and stateheads of this country, but rather getting their hands on as many stolen items as they can.



I mean, no one is actully saying that. Everyone is saying this is crimminal rooting. What they are saying though, is that for such a culture to exist, there has be some reason, beyond "they are evil and need to be killed".




Where's that last quote from? It's not from one of my posts? That's funny, given how many accusations of twisting words I had thrown at me yesterday.


I wasn't quoting you - I was speaking more generally about the thread and put the quote marks in as a general feeling in that thread, and not anything you said. 

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RE: The London Thread - 10/8/2011 2:37:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Goodfella


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

quote:

ORIGINAL: Goodfella

Dare you to pop over onto News and Hot Topics and state that first part. Over there this is an act of social decline and lack of opportunities, we'll forget the fact the BBC have already released messages passed between many of the rioters and looters which is visible proof that many of them are members of gangs and are not intent on making a point with the politics and stateheads of this country, but rather getting their hands on as many stolen items as they can.



I mean, no one is actully saying that. Everyone is saying this is crimminal rooting. What they are saying though, is that for such a culture to exist, there has be some reason, beyond "they are evil and need to be killed".




Where's that last quote from? It's not from one of my posts? That's funny, given how many accusations of twisting words I had thrown at me yesterday.


I wasn't quoting you - I was speaking more generally about the thread.



That wasn't said at all though and I feel it's a bit of an extreme way to generalise some people's feelings about it, much the same as Spaldron's posts about how we were saying, "it's the blacks", "ban twitter" etc. None of these things were said. I think people are angry and are entitled to be but I don't think anbody suggested we react in such an extreme manner, people want justice and punishment but aren't calling to bring out the stocks, although there were a few jokey posts.

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RE: The London Thread - 10/8/2011 2:39:59 PM   
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You should read the thread just now Goodfella. And yes, it does come from understandable anger, and I am sure that in the cold light of day rationality will win as it always does. 

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RE: The London Thread - 10/8/2011 2:42:45 PM   
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I just realized something, never argue with Goodfella, he'll just get emotional and ignore your points to repeatedly say his.


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RE: The London Thread - 10/8/2011 2:43:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Goodfella


Dare you to pop over onto News and Hot Topics and state that first part. Over there this is an act of social decline and lack of opportunities, we'll forget the fact the BBC have already released messages passed between many of the rioters and looters which is visible proof that many of them are members of gangs and are not intent on making a point with the politics and stateheads of this country, but rather getting their hands on as many stolen items as they can.


As you should know, that's a pretty gross misrepresentation of the debate in that thread.  The point that has been made repeatedly (but that you have continuously chosen to ignore) is that  recognising that there are underlying social problems in the area does not mean that you side with the looters and rioters, or even think they're anything but opportunist criminals.  Rather it is recognition that quelling the riots won't necessarily make the problems disappear.


At what point have I said anything im my above post about "siding with the looters." I've said that it's being claimed an act of social decline and lack of opportunities, which has been directly stated on News and Hot Topics. So your reply is a gross misrepresentation of my above post isn't it?


Again Goodfella, the social decline and lack of opportunities are being discussed in the context of quite clearly crimminal behaviour - but they are the conidtions for such an event to happen. That is a distinction that has to be made.

No one is saying these are poor innocent lambs, but at the same time what is being said, is what is the background to all of this, that let riots of the scale across the country, take place.



It's interesting though, areas like Ealing, for example, are very affulent, they are not your typical suburban areas of London that suffer from high crime rates and low income thresholds. Judging from the interviews some media outlets have managed to obtain with some of the rioters and looters, they don't really seem to have much care for why they are doing this, "let's go and get some watches." They seem to be enjoying the thrill and the chase of what they are doing, they don't seem to be frustrated with their own social situations and are destroying their own communities and employment opportunities around them. As I've already stated, evidence is building that more and more of them are criminals by nature anyway, involved in gangland life, in fact one this morning in court was on license from prison for drug-related charges.

As for rioting across the country, do you not think a lot of this is copycat behaviour?

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RE: The London Thread - 10/8/2011 2:44:14 PM   
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You should read the thread just now Goodfella. And yes, it does come from understandable anger, and I am sure that in the cold light of day rationality will win as it always does. 


No, I'll pass thanks. Shame rationality hasn't won over the past four nights ey?

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RE: The London Thread - 10/8/2011 2:45:19 PM   
Goodfella


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ORIGINAL: Deviation

I just realized something, never argue with Goodfella, he'll just get emotional and ignore your points to repeatedly say his.



See, this is trolling. Sure it'll get ignored though.

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