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Werner Herzog- His best film?


OTHER
  8% (1)
Grizzly Man
  16% (2)
My Best Fiend
  0% (0)
Fitzcarraldo
  25% (3)
Woyzeck
  0% (0)
Nosferatu-Phantom Der Nacht
  0% (0)
Stroszeck
  0% (0)
Heart of Glass
  8% (1)
The Enigma of Kaspar Huaser
  0% (0)
Aguirre, Wrath of God
  41% (5)


Total Votes : 12


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Werner Herzog- His best film? - 9/10/2008 10:18:43 PM   
Deviation


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So, recently I have become a big fan of Herzog's work, everyones favourite shot, "egomaniacal" madman(). Even though I've only seen seven of his films(the five Kinski collaborations, My Best Fiend and Rescue Dawn), I was always mostly impressed by his work. I left out Rescue Dawn, Even Dwarves Even Small, most of his documentaries, Invincible among them, so if you think any them deserves to be called his greatest, just click OTHER. I was always impressed by his work, even by Rescue Dawn and Cobra Verde.

Anyway, my favourite has to be Fitzcarraldo, only slightly better than Aguirre and Nosferatu: Phantom Der Nacht. Fantastic performances by the great Kinski and Cardenale, it's about a likeable(you have to admire his persistence) opera buff who wants that his dream of building an operahouse in the middle of the jungle. It features some stunning vistas and a great soundtrack(typical of Herzog), and certainly looks epic, and it is filmed in his usual documentary style. I think it's one of the lightest Herzog films, where the madness of the lead character is almost idolized, and lacks the pessimism of Nosferatu, Woyseck, Cobra Verde, Aguirre or apparently Stroszeck(haven't seen it), but neither the almost out-of-place optimism of Rescue Dawn's ending. A famously hellish shoot, which can be seen in the film, it is also poetic in it's vistas, mood and music, and certainly grand in it's scope, like the Baron's dream.

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RE: Werner Herzog- His best film? - 10/10/2008 3:25:13 PM   
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Has to be Aguirre for me  Though Fitzcarraldo is magical, I always Aguirre fascinating and Kinski's performance is a marvellous spectacle. It is the film that characterizes both Herzog and Kinski, and what I most closely associate with them.

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RE: Werner Herzog- His best film? - 11/10/2008 2:25:53 PM   
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I do love Aguirre, one of the most unique, bizarre yet entrancing films I've ever seen.

On another note, can Bad Leuitenant be any good?

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RE: Werner Herzog- His best film? - 11/10/2008 8:03:32 PM   
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Well I'll definitely be watching it  Don't have too much faith, it could all go horribly wrong, but I read this interview recently and it made me feel a bit better about it ...

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Seeing how much fun we had grilling John Cusack last week, we decided one impromptu, inquisitive turn deserves another. Then, through some minor miracle/apparent PR botch, we found ourselves sitting across from Werner Herzog talking about his new documentary about life in Antarctica, Encounters at the End of the World. We'll get to that as its release date approaches later this month, but for the moment, we're still wondering how hard our legs were just pulled as Herzog told us all about his mad vision for remaking continuing (or something) Abel Ferrara's 1992 cult classic Bad Lieutenant.


It only looks like more than our standard Five Questions after the jump, but with Herzog jumping on our dropped jaws on more than one occasion, we admit we lost count.

So, yes or no: Is Bad Lieutenant a project you're working on with Nicolas Cage?

Yes, but its not a remake. It's like, for example, you wouldn't call a new James Bond movie a remake of the previous one although the name of the bad lieutenant is a different one, and the story is completely different. It's very interesting because Nicolas Cage really wants to work with me, and just anticipating working with an actor of his caliber is just wonderful.

Why this project, though? You could have worked on anything.

There's an interesting screenplay; it's a very, very dark story. It's great because it seems to reflect a side of the collective psyche sometimes there are just good times for film noir. They don't come out of nowhere. There was some sort of a mysterious context with the understanding of people in that particular time. And it's going to be in New Orleans, which is a fascinating place. Part of it was the decision of the producers for tax incentives which is totally legitimate. However, I thought to myself: "We have seen a lot of New York in movies; we have not seen New Orleans in feature films." Or very few feature films. After Katrina it's a particularly interesting set-up. The neglect and politics after the hurricane struck are something quite amazing. It has to do with public morality.

Speaking of which, the original film's director, Abel Ferrara, has vowed to fight this project, and

Wonderful, yes! Let him fight! He thinks I'm doing a remake.

Have you talked to him?

No. I have no idea who Abel Ferrara is. But let him fight the windmills, like Don Quixote.

Have you heard his comments at all? He says he hopes "these people die in Hell."

That's beautiful!

Do you relate to that passion?

No, because it's like theater thunder. It's like being backstage in the 19th century, with the machines that make thunder. It has nothing do with with his film. But let him rave and rant; it's good music in the background.

You did a remake before with Nosferatu, but

It was not so much a remake as an homage to Murnau. But I don't feel like doing an homage to Abel Ferrara because I don't know what he did I've never seen a film by him. I have no idea who he is. Is he Italian? Is he French? Who is he?

Oh, come on.

Maybe I could invite him to act in a movie! Except I don't know what he looks like.


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RE: Werner Herzog- His best film? - 12/10/2008 12:36:29 AM   
Deviation


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ORIGINAL: Lydia_H

Well I'll definitely be watching it  Don't have too much faith, it could all go horribly wrong, but I read this interview recently and it made me feel a bit better about it ...

quote:

Seeing how much fun we had grilling John Cusack last week, we decided one impromptu, inquisitive turn deserves another. Then, through some minor miracle/apparent PR botch, we found ourselves sitting across from Werner Herzog talking about his new documentary about life in Antarctica, Encounters at the End of the World. We'll get to that as its release date approaches later this month, but for the moment, we're still wondering how hard our legs were just pulled as Herzog told us all about his mad vision for remaking continuing (or something) Abel Ferrara's 1992 cult classic Bad Lieutenant.


It only looks like more than our standard Five Questions after the jump, but with Herzog jumping on our dropped jaws on more than one occasion, we admit we lost count.

So, yes or no: Is Bad Lieutenant a project you're working on with Nicolas Cage?

Yes, but its not a remake. It's like, for example, you wouldn't call a new James Bond movie a remake of the previous one although the name of the bad lieutenant is a different one, and the story is completely different. It's very interesting because Nicolas Cage really wants to work with me, and just anticipating working with an actor of his caliber is just wonderful.

Why this project, though? You could have worked on anything.

There's an interesting screenplay; it's a very, very dark story. It's great because it seems to reflect a side of the collective psyche sometimes there are just good times for film noir. They don't come out of nowhere. There was some sort of a mysterious context with the understanding of people in that particular time. And it's going to be in New Orleans, which is a fascinating place. Part of it was the decision of the producers for tax incentives which is totally legitimate. However, I thought to myself: "We have seen a lot of New York in movies; we have not seen New Orleans in feature films." Or very few feature films. After Katrina it's a particularly interesting set-up. The neglect and politics after the hurricane struck are something quite amazing. It has to do with public morality.

Speaking of which, the original film's director, Abel Ferrara, has vowed to fight this project, and

Wonderful, yes! Let him fight! He thinks I'm doing a remake.

Have you talked to him?

No. I have no idea who Abel Ferrara is. But let him fight the windmills, like Don Quixote.

Have you heard his comments at all? He says he hopes "these people die in Hell."

That's beautiful!

Do you relate to that passion?

No, because it's like theater thunder. It's like being backstage in the 19th century, with the machines that make thunder. It has nothing do with with his film. But let him rave and rant; it's good music in the background.

You did a remake before with Nosferatu, but

It was not so much a remake as an homage to Murnau. But I don't feel like doing an homage to Abel Ferrara because I don't know what he did I've never seen a film by him. I have no idea who he is. Is he Italian? Is he French? Who is he?

Oh, come on.

Maybe I could invite him to act in a movie! Except I don't know what he looks like.




That's wondeful, absolutely wonderful.

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RE: Werner Herzog- His best film? - 15/10/2008 2:50:06 PM   
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I voted for Fitzcarraldo. I love Aguirre, but the sheer scale and spectacle of Fitzcarraldo is breathtaking.

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RE: Werner Herzog- His best film? - 17/10/2008 5:22:49 PM   
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Aguirre. I'm also very partial to Lessons of Darkness and Little Dieter.

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RE: Werner Herzog- His best film? - 20/10/2008 3:07:26 PM   
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Really have to see many more of his films.  From the ones I have seen had to go for Agriue also, fantastic picture.

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RE: Werner Herzog- His best film? - 21/10/2008 11:32:31 PM   
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I've only seen Rescue Dawn which I thought was very good and I am going to watch Aguirre soon. 

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RE: Werner Herzog- His best film? - 5/3/2009 1:11:31 AM   
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Has to be Aguirre. It's like Apocalypse Now, but with conquistadors. What's not to love?

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RE: Werner Herzog- His best film? - 5/3/2009 12:54:47 PM   
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Fizcarrdo is next my list to see!

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RE: Werner Herzog- His best film? - 8/3/2009 2:23:58 AM   
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I watched Cobra Verde many years ago and hated it, I was too young. But it put me off Werner.

So I revisted a few years ago and he has become my favourite director.

I voted Fitzcarraldo, it's pure genius and quite magical (as another member put it) - I can watch it again and again. I love Aguirre but it doesn't have that repeat viewing factor for me.

Grizzly Man is also wonderful, the story of Timothy is only enlighted by the captivating voice of Werner, his tones haunt me.

I wrote to him on the set of Bad Lieutenant with a poster of Fitzcarraldo, he signed and dedicated it and sent it back...perhaps one of my most treasured items.

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