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RE: Eden Fake - 2/2/2009 3:32:04 PM

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There were a few silly bits in the beginning (Fassbender's character pointlessly trespassing in one of the kid's home) but overall an excellent piece of horror film making.

It's very depressing and grim though, there were times when I just wished three red laser dots in the shape of a triangle would appear on one of the chav's heads and Predator would suddenly appear, taking them all out, skinning them, hanging them upside down and keeping their skulls for trophies.

That would have made it a masterpiece if the Predator would have shown up.

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RE: Eden Fake - 15/2/2009 1:15:38 AM

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Just finished watching this and wanted to say how utterly, utterly stupid this film was. It's probably all been noted in previous posts but it had zero credibility from very early on. I realise it's a horror film but that can't excuse it in this instance. Eden Lake was trying to be a 'realistic' horror film but by ejecting common sense it just ended up being tediously ludicrous. Dumb beyond belief.

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Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 16/2/2009 7:47:54 PM

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Superb writing, fantastic comment on the world we now live in. Pulls absolutely no punches.

If I were to create a short film which featured a child throwing a stone through a window and an adolescant throwing a molotov cocktail at a group of policemen in riot gear, would that suddenly make it a 'commentary' on world affairs? This is lazy film making, there's no art, no originality or passion involved here at all. It simply acts as a front for some individuals' childish whim to make a film as gory, bloody and shocking as possible. The irony being that as this film purports to be a statement on reality in which we face (yet it is only a quasi-commentary); yet the film itself is simply the evidence that the further degeneration of culture is in place. What happened to the eloquence of the past? The vivid and striking detail that one could muster by simply having an expansive diction (yes no "shit, fuck, bollocks, twat") and the ingenuity to dictate an intelligent and engaging story without need for excessives (i.e. violence or swearing). I suppose with other films like Donkey Punch and Lesbian Vampire Killers, the masses will be enthralled with such base material.

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 16/2/2009 9:12:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

quote:

ORIGINAL: qualidad

Superb writing, fantastic comment on the world we now live in. Pulls absolutely no punches.

If I were to create a short film which featured a child throwing a stone through a window and an adolescant throwing a molotov cocktail at a group of policemen in riot gear, would that suddenly make it a 'commentary' on world affairs? This is lazy film making, there's no art, no originality or passion involved here at all. It simply acts as a front for some individuals' childish whim to make a film as gory, bloody and shocking as possible. The irony being that as this film purports to be a statement on reality in which we face (yet it is only a quasi-commentary); yet the film itself is simply the evidence that the further degeneration of culture is in place. What happened to the eloquence of the past? The vivid and striking detail that one could muster by simply having an expansive diction (yes no "shit, fuck, bollocks, twat") and the ingenuity to dictate an intelligent and engaging story without need for excessives (i.e. violence or swearing). I suppose with other films like Donkey Punch and Lesbian Vampire Killers, the masses will be enthralled with such base material.

You should consider that some of us really enjoy this type of entertainment.
I come from violent surroundings and can relate to a film like this. Coming from the inner-city in the United States I have seen what parental absence does to weak minded kids---- They become followers.

But this is not why i decided to reply.

This is why.

You can say that there is no passion or art just because you are seeing it through your eyes. It takes massive amounts of passion to make a film, try writing a script and you will see that passion is the first ingredient needed before you even put pen to paper.
Art, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. I enjoyed this film simply because it is supposed to disturb the viewer and I can only hope that some couple out there having a picnic would have watched this film and learned to be cautious and avoid situations escalating to violence and death.

Now you may walk around with your nose in the air about these types of films, but what in the hell possessed you to watch it in the first place? Why didnt you just re-watch Casablanca or one of those "other" classic films that put some of us to sleep instead.

I dont watch 'musicals' because I find them dumb. But knowing that, I avoid them like the plague. Because I know that If i watch one, Im only going to point out the negative and thats not fair to those who really enjoy 'musicals'.

If you look back at all my comments in this thread you will see why i liked and disliked the film.
But I knew what I was getting into before I even watched it so the positives outweigh the negatives. I dont always watch a film to get some great philosophical message sometimes I just want someone to get stabbed in the fu(king eye.
Is that sad on my part? Probably. But if you and i were being hunted by some maniacs, you would benefit from having a mother fu(ker like me with you.

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 19/2/2009 4:18:48 PM

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I dont watch 'musicals' because I find them dumb. But knowing that, I avoid them like the plague. Because I know that If i watch one, Im only going to point out the negative and thats not fair to those who really enjoy 'musicals'.

If you look back at all my comments in this thread you will see why i liked and disliked the film.
But I knew what I was getting into before I even watched it so the positives outweigh the negatives. I dont always watch a film to get some great philosophical message sometimes I just want someone to get stabbed in the fu(king eye.
Is that sad on my part? Probably. But if you and i were being hunted by some maniacs, you would benefit from having a mother fu(ker like me with you.

The problem with your comments is that you say you avoid musicals because you hate musicals.....a fair and reasonable comment. But Eden Lake is supposed to be a horror movie (I'd call it more of a thriller but the director called it horror), now as a massive horror movie fan I watched this film. It is not a good horror movie, in fact it's a very poor horror movie, and believe me I have seen some bad ones! Horror films are being churned out all the time and most of them are pretty bad, but as a horror fan I will watch most of them anyway and to a certain extent can even enjoy the bad ones for the sheer fun of them, but Eden Lake was not fun, it was not exciting, it had none of the "fun" parts that modern "so bad it's good" horror films seem to have so it has to rely squarely on it's statement on society, which maybe true but doesn't make it any more entertaining to watch.

Throwing your own suggestion back at you for a moment, why did you watch this instead of watching Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Nightmare On Elm Street or any of the hundreds of other good classic movies? Some of us love movies, it doesn't matter what genre they fall into as long as they have something that makes them worth watching, you may well have missed out on some gems in the musical genre because of your refusal to watch them (not many I will grant you that! lol But Sweeney Todd springs to mind). Your comment seemed to say that non-horror fans shouldn't watch films like this as they should know they are going to dislike it from the beginining and whilst I would agree with you had this film been Friday The 13th Part 11, or Evil Dead 4 or Hellraiser 9 for examples but I don't think it applies to Eden Lake.

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 19/2/2009 5:09:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: wgamador
I dont watch 'musicals' because I find them dumb. But knowing that, I avoid them like the plague. Because I know that If i watch one, Im only going to point out the negative and thats not fair to those who really enjoy 'musicals'.

If you look back at all my comments in this thread you will see why i liked and disliked the film.
But I knew what I was getting into before I even watched it so the positives outweigh the negatives. I dont always watch a film to get some great philosophical message sometimes I just want someone to get stabbed in the fu(king eye.
Is that sad on my part? Probably. But if you and i were being hunted by some maniacs, you would benefit from having a mother fu(ker like me with you.

The problem with your comments is that you say you avoid musicals because you hate musicals.....a fair and reasonable comment. But Eden Lake is supposed to be a horror movie (I'd call it more of a thriller but the director called it horror), now as a massive horror movie fan I watched this film. It is not a good horror movie, in fact it's a very poor horror movie, and believe me I have seen some bad ones! Horror films are being churned out all the time and most of them are pretty bad, but as a horror fan I will watch most of them anyway and to a certain extent can even enjoy the bad ones for the sheer fun of them, but Eden Lake was not fun, it was not exciting, it had none of the "fun" parts that modern "so bad it's good" horror films seem to have so it has to rely squarely on it's statement on society, which maybe true but doesn't make it any more entertaining to watch.

Throwing your own suggestion back at you for a moment, why did you watch this instead of watching Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Nightmare On Elm Street or any of the hundreds of other good classic movies? Some of us love movies, it doesn't matter what genre they fall into as long as they have something that makes them worth watching, you may well have missed out on some gems in the musical genre because of your refusal to watch them (not many I will grant you that! lol But Sweeney Todd springs to mind). Your comment seemed to say that non-horror fans shouldn't watch films like this as they should know they are going to dislike it from the beginining and whilst I would agree with you had this film been Friday The 13th Part 11, or Evil Dead 4 or Hellraiser 9 for examples but I don't think it applies to Eden Lake.

"The problem with your comments is that you say you avoid musicals because you hate musicals.....a fair and reasonable comment. But Eden Lake is supposed to be a horror movie (I'd call it more of a thriller but the director called it horror), now as a massive horror movie fan I watched this film. It is not a good horror movie, in fact it's a very poor horror movie, and believe me I have seen some bad ones! Horror films are being churned out all the time and most of them are pretty bad, but as a horror fan I will watch most of them anyway and to a certain extent can even enjoy the bad ones for the sheer fun of them, but Eden Lake was not fun, it was not exciting, it had none of the "fun" parts that modern "so bad it's good" horror films seem to have so it has to rely squarely on it's statement on society, which maybe true but doesn't make it any more entertaining to watch."
....the film being mislabeled by the director was probably a gimmick to get people to watch it. For me it falls more into the 'psychological thriller' genre.
It wasnt scary n the traditional sense, i have stated that several times throughout the thread. Its an angry movie and as far as a statement of society, here in the USA, we've been there done thatin our society. Here, walkin gby a group of youths can be very unpredictable.

"Your comment seemed to say that non-horror fans shouldn't watch films like this as they should know they are going to dislike it from the beginining and whilst I would agree with you had this film been Friday The 13th Part 11, or Evil Dead 4 or Hellraiser 9 for examples but I don't think it applies to Eden Lake."
........what i was actually getting at was that, its cool if the violence disturbed you and are totally against violence, but this is the films intention is to be bloody and terrifying.
When a film is labeled horror or thriller , i expect some violence. Just as if the movie was labeled musical, i can expect some singing and dancing. Since i dislike those elements in the films I prefer to watch, I skip them, but I wouldnt come on and call them passionless or dispute their artistic value.
Just as if i disliked violent films, i would stay away from the new generation of "horror" films like Eden Lake, Hostel, and Devil's Rejects. Thats all I was saying.
Im definatley not stating what people should watch or not watch. Just to keep certain things in mind when entering films with themes that you find unfavorable.
I watched this film because i read it was 'nasty' and violent and this is exactly what I wanted to see and by god, thats what I got.

Thanks for your reply though.

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 19/2/2009 7:40:03 PM

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I totally appreciate what you are getting at with your points, perhaps I misjudged to what opinions you were reffering to, it seemed that you were saying people who didn't like the film should have known they weren't going to like it if they didn't like violent movies, but looking at your explanation I think perhaps you were saying people who went in expecting a "drama" (for want of a better word) were shocked and disturbed by the violence as it wasn't expected, am I right?

My point was that although and many others knew it was going to be violent the expectation was that it was going to be more then just a poor attempt at a horror/thriller, Hostel works because of the inventiveness of the violence, torture scenes etc.. and it also has some humour.
Eden Lake falls for all the horror cliches without an ounce of humour to forgive them, the violence in itself is not enough to make a movie worthwile, it has to have something else going for it and personally I didn't think Eden Lake did.

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 19/2/2009 8:47:31 PM

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Eden Lake falls for all the horror cliches without an ounce of humour to forgive them, the violence in itself is not enough to make a movie worthwile, it has to have something else going for it and personally I didn't think Eden Lake did.

I think thats what it all boils down to. Personal taste.
I liked that the movie didnt try and be something except a movie about a couple being hunted by some vicious kids who's hearts are filled with darkness.
I liked that the whole movie was mindless violence like Devil's Rejects and found it worthwhile.
Do i like to read the newspapers and see articles about real people being killed or hurt, of course not.
But in a movie, I quite enjoy it.

I will add that i was shocked that someone with your username didnt like the content of the film.

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 19/2/2009 11:58:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: wgamador

I will add that i was shocked that someone with your username didnt like the content of the film.

I have nothing against the content, hell I just watched Saw V whilst eating my sausage casserole

Violence and gore no longer shock me, it is the situation that can make me shudder not the violence itself, hence why in Eden Lake I was more bored then anything as it just wasn't shocking (except the ending in fairness) it had too many horror cliches going for it to be believable and the worst thing is it didn't need them to fuel the story, at several points something happened to slow the woman down which seemed so unlikely to happen but they could have just made the kids run a bit faster without having to resort to overused plot devices to "highten the tension". It took me right out of the film and made it laughable.

But as you say and as with all movies it all boils down to personal taste and this just wasn't for me.

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 20/2/2009 4:43:24 PM

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So I see (courtesy of IMDB) that James Watkins has been handed the job of directing 'The Descent: Part II'.

I didn't like the first one, very overrated, not at all scary and rather ridiculous but with Watkins on board maybe he can surprise me and produce a great sequel.

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 26/2/2009 10:02:53 AM

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Insipid torture-porn dressed in a gossamer-thin veneer of social commentary. It's mean-spirited, badly acted, illogical, clich�-ridden and has a ludicrously simplistic I-blame-the-parents coda that makes you want to punch the screen. The now ubiquitous bleak ending offers a shock of such non-earth shattering proportions that in 3 months you'l struggle to differentiate this with any other film in the genre. That scene is there for notorioty value only.

Watch the far superior 'Them' or 'Funny Games' instead.

**SPOILER**

It's shit!

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 27/2/2009 3:31:44 PM

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Well... I liked it as we have many chaves out here. So its nice to get some more hate for them.

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 27/2/2009 3:35:09 PM

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Well... I liked it as we have many chaves out here. So its nice to get some more hate for them.

Why are they called 'chaves' ?
I liked the film because it accomplishes what it's set out to do.........disturb the living piss out of you.

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RE: Eden Lake - 6/3/2009 6:04:03 PM

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I ended up chatting with the director actually. Who, bizarrely, seems a very balanced, lovely chap.

That film is hella-depressing though.

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 6/3/2009 7:04:29 PM

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Insipid torture-porn dressed in a gossamer-thin veneer of social commentary. It's mean-spirited, badly acted, illogical, clich�-ridden and has a ludicrously simplistic I-blame-the-parents coda that makes you want to punch the screen. The now ubiquitous bleak ending offers a shock of such non-earth shattering proportions that in 3 months you'l struggle to differentiate this with any other film in the genre. That scene is there for notorioty value only.

Watch the far superior 'Them' or 'Funny Games' instead.

**SPOILER**

It's shit!

You'll appreciate it the day you come across a group of irritating youths and you will recall the film and when you end up walking away from an altercation, you'll thank Eden Lake.

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 14/5/2009 11:18:31 PM

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My god, what a horrible little film. One of my most uncomfortable viewings ever. I've heard it was a tough watch but my jaysus I never thought it would be that tough.

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 15/5/2009 2:33:47 PM

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My god, what a horrible little film. One of my most uncomfortable viewings ever. I've heard it was a tough watch but my jaysus I never thought it would be that tough.

Did you like the movie ?

Little nasty scenes that made you squirm in your seat. were fantastic.

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 15/5/2009 3:13:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: wgamador

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ORIGINAL: talpacino

My god, what a horrible little film. One of my most uncomfortable viewings ever. I've heard it was a tough watch but my jaysus I never thought it would be that tough.

Did you like the movie ?

Little nasty scenes that made you squirm in your seat. were fantastic.

It's a really good film but I'm not sure I can say I enjoyed it. Definitely made me squirm anyway.

It's the fact that it's all so possible that got to me. I see little shits like that hanging around our village and I've heard stories about them beating up people who walk past.

Anyway, the film, I'd definitely recommend it if you're able to watch it

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 15/5/2009 6:03:28 PM

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I like this Talpacino person.

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RE: Modern depravity has destroyed Eden (intelligence) - 19/5/2009 11:26:27 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: wgamador

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ORIGINAL: Lazarus munkey

Insipid torture-porn dressed in a gossamer-thin veneer of social commentary. It's mean-spirited, badly acted, illogical, clich�-ridden and has a ludicrously simplistic I-blame-the-parents coda that makes you want to punch the screen. The now ubiquitous bleak ending offers a shock of such non-earth shattering proportions that in 3 months you'l struggle to differentiate this with any other film in the genre. That scene is there for notorioty value only.

Watch the far superior 'Them' or 'Funny Games' instead.

**SPOILER**

It's shit!

You'll appreciate it the day you come across a group of irritating youths and you will recall the film and when you end up walking away from an altercation, you'll thank Eden Lake.

I live off J9 M6. Chavs do not present the culture shock you assume. Regardless of personal circumstances, this film is beyond toilet and should be force-fed to anyone who has ever bought the Daily Mail. Not because the idea is 'ironic' but because I don't like them.

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Bloody Kids. - 8/6/2009 2:03:16 AM

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Turns out, hell really is other people.

After writing the screenplays for My Little Eye (2002) and Gone (2007), one could be forgiven for writing James Watkins off as another Brit-Horror also-ran, but his directorial debut deserves a place alongside The Wicker Man, Don’t Look Now and The Descent as one of the great British horror films.

Like all great horror, Eden Lake unflinchingly captures all the stuff that nightmares are made of. Peace and security spiral into terror and ambiguity, as young teacher Jenny (Kelly Reilly) and her boyfriend Steve (Michael Fassbender) take a trip out to the titular beauty spot for a weekend away from it all. From the moment we meet the pair, their journey into the wilds of rural England is accompanied by an ominous string score which immediately marks them out as a tragedy waiting to happen. Watkins’ script turns Jenny and Steve into people we care about with wonderful economy, ensuring hearts are in mouths when the inevitable devil begins snapping at their heels. And what a devil it is.

Any horror film is only as good as its monster, whether physical or psychological, and the monster Watkins has concocted here is plucked from the darkest heart of the middle class sub-conscious.

Beware the Chav, my son. Horror wears a hoodie. The kids are not alright, etc.

It is the kids that people my age are starting to grow afraid of. At some point in the past few years, people of my generation (and older) absorbed the collective angst generated by endless knife crime headlines and allowed them to colour our perceptions of the average group of kids smoking and spitting on street corners. And by god, those fearsome little stereotypes are writ large here. If Jaws made an entire generation afraid to go swimming, Eden Lake will make a lot of people think twice before asking someone to turn their music down.

The young cast inhabit these roles brilliantly, but Jack O’Connell is simply astonishing as Brett, the

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Social commentary horror - 17/6/2009 2:04:05 PM

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I can see why the director said some viewers thought this film should shown in schools. Horror films usually have a layer of unreality to them making them feel safer. Eden Lake largely strips that away, leaving a very real world setting filled with very real violent acts to be watched. The 'villains' of the piece are suitablely horrible and you can feel yourself thinking that you could geniunely meet such people and events could turns as nasty very quickly. If further proof were necessary less then two weeks after I saw this film on DVD, a real murder trial had just ended (in three convictions) where the victim had been treated to similar torture as the lead.

In the end this is a first class horror movie where everyone is firing on all cyclinders, from the writers to the actors nothing feels as though it couldn't happen (apart from the unnecessary bleak twist of fate). It leaves you scared, wanting to see more horror films of this quality and wishing people weren't such complete b******ds in the real world.

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dog turd! - 7/8/2009 7:58:48 PM

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An utterly unforgivable bit of film making. A film which is aimed at Guardian readers (the stereotyping is shamefull)
The weak willed and shallow of mind will watch this and absolutely shite themselves next time they have to walk to the shop, waiting for the "hoodies" to "do them over"
Hopefuly, people wont watch this and think all young, working class kids are absolute scumbags.
Thanks to the news and directors such as this one, kids are given a rough time. And thanks to the news and directors such as this, I now have to walk the dogs and go to the shop when the clock turns 19:00!
HOWEVER, some good torture scenes and the young lad from skins is a cracking little actor! Puts the 2 "educated adults" to shame (theyre acting is shocking!)
Poor!
Must go now, 22:00 hrs, dogs need walking, best take me stab vest and wifes rape alarm with me! lol

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Excellent! - 7/9/2009 11:22:37 PM

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Watched it yesterday:
Eden Lake
A young couple goes camping in the forest near Eden Lake but soon after their arrival they get bothered by a bunch of noisy teenagers. When Steve (Michael Fassbender) asks them to turn it down a notch it soon gets from bad to worse and they soon find themselves in the middle of a horror weekend.

When the movie`s finished, the comparison with Straw Dogs is quickly made. It isn`t an easy rip-off of the Dustin Hoffman starred classic though. The fact that the main characters are being bothered and have to defend themselves is the same but other than that it does stand alone.
Michael Fassbender and beauty Kelly Reilly (who can be seen this fall in Guy Ritchie`s version of Sherlock Holmes) make a great and believable couple with whom you`ll soon sympathise.
The goreness level is not that high because it`s more a thriller than it is a horror (although there are quite some messed up scenes in there), with the tension and the pace equally getting higher towards the end.
The film is exactly one scene too long and that makes it that the film doesn`t have quite the impact it could`ve had.

But don`t let that get you down: the UK can add another brilliant horror-thriller to its list of similar films that has been released there the last couple of years.

8,0/10

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RE: Excellent! - 25/1/2010 11:47:30 PM

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Finally got round to watching this yesterday. What a nasty, nasty film. I think it's great! I wouldn't go as far to say I enjoy it, but it's a brilliant film.

Now I'm not one who normally reads into things too much, but I suppose the subject matter is too in your face to ignore. This could be a comment on how little chav bastards these days are conscienceless fucks these days, or could be playing on people fears of the 'ASBO generation'.

However I did see the ending coming a mile off. As soon as they arrive at the pub you know what sort of a community it is, and again in the cafe and when Steve pointlessly lets himself into the chavs house.

As for that scene with the fire. That was fucking terrible. Absolutley horrible. And when *******SPOILER Thomas Turgoose's character buys the farm, just nasty with a lingering shot of him bleeding to death. SPOILER END******

But still, top film which I won't be in a hurry to watch again, but defiantly will do at some point.

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RE: Eden Lake - 27/1/2010 7:58:11 PM

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Shocking, horrific, with fantastic acting and well put-together sequences. Why Total Film gave this 1 star is a mystery - actually no, it isn't, it just shows how inferior the magazine is to Empire.

7/10

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RE: Eden Lake - 29/1/2010 11:22:54 PM

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Nice. Just catching up with some of the posts and im glad to see most of you at least gave the film a chance.
Sure its not for everybody and it gets a bit over-the-top, but thats the point i think.

Just like someone mentioned a certain magazine being inferior to EMPIRE....you bet your lunch it is, and i bet that their forums cannot not even come close to these forums and its members.

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nasty nasty stuff - 10/2/2010 2:53:07 PM

tysmuse

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The line between love/hate with this movie seems to fall entirely on whether you think a) shit, this is pretty believable, or b) what a terrible piece of gross scare-mongering stereotyping. Either way it's a your above-average horror stuff. Gross, violent, very grim, quite tense, well-acted (the gang leader is superb). Just keep telling yourself its only a movie!... or is it?? ahhh!

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RE: nasty nasty stuff - 22/2/2010 1:04:12 AM

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its a TERIFFIC piece of social comment/drama, dont believe otherwise. if it were french, it would be hailed as a groundbreaker. the humilation of fassbenders need to protect is heartbreaking.this is no horror, but its horrific not due to anything visual, but due to WHY? ps the main girl chav is also supurb

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RE: nasty nasty stuff - 7/5/2010 1:11:59 PM

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Just been having a look through some older films reviews and came across this. I watched this a couple of months ago, and my god is it a difficult watch. I've got to agree with the Empire review in that it is believable that this kind of thing could happen to anyone. It actually got me pretty angry, but that's because I have an absolute hatred of chavs/scallies/whatever you want to call them. Those people should all be put on an island Battle Royale style! However, I also loved the film. I was on the edge of my seat all the way through and was really routing for the couple.

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