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Lost in Austen - 19/8/2008 11:40:25 AM   
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Starting in the ITV Autumn season we see a modern day Jane Austen fan transported into her favourite book - apparently through a door like portal according to this weeks Radio Times.

Checking the IMDB link and not seeing any credit to Jasper FForde whose ideas have clearly been nicked wholesale for this even down to the original portal. Seems a tad rum.

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RE: Lost in Austen - 19/8/2008 1:08:32 PM   
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This looks pretty interesting. Being a mahoosive fan of Austen and also liking the up-and-coming career of Gemma Atherton.

What's the air date?

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RE: Lost in Austen - 19/8/2008 1:33:39 PM   
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Doesn't give specific dates yet, just a preview of the coming season.

Not actually seen Arterton noticeable in anything yet suddenly she seems to have a massive career - she is also in yet another adaptation of Hardy's godawful dreary Tess.

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RE: Lost in Austen - 19/8/2008 6:04:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: elab49

Checking the IMDB link and not seeing any credit to Jasper FForde whose ideas have clearly been nicked wholesale for this even down to the original portal. Seems a tad rum.



Agreed, sounds like a blatant rip off of The Eyre Affair. I wouldn't be surprised if the lead character was called Friday Next or something. 

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RE: Lost in Austen - 19/8/2008 8:08:46 PM   
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I think this is on the first week of September.  Arterton seems to be getting a lot of roles because she has long legs.

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RE: Lost in Austen - 19/8/2008 8:37:09 PM   
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So is this just the ITV version of Life on Mars but set in Jane Austin land?

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RE: Lost in Austen - 20/8/2008 5:01:16 PM   
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I'll be watching it just for Jemima Rooper as the main character.  Hubba hubba

Although Gemma Artherton is also easy on the eye.  This might be sucessful as who here actually watches ITV dramas?

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RE: Lost in Austen - 20/8/2008 9:43:52 PM   
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Depends on what it is. Eye candy doesn't really come top of my assessment list.

But as 2 out of 3 of their recent adaptations of Austen was appalling and the 3rd only half decent I don't hold out a great deal of hope. You keep hoping with ITV drama premieres and being let down. Primeval is pretty much the only thing I watch on the entire set of channels (it would also be the Office but they don't care enough about it to give it a decent timeslot and I use other means of viewing).

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RE: Lost in Austen - 28/8/2008 1:33:18 PM   
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I'll be watching it just for Jemima Rooper as the main character.  Hubba hubba

Although Gemma Artherton is also easy on the eye.  This might be sucessful as who here actually watches ITV dramas?


hell yea! i love Jeminma Rooper!!  back off she is mine buddy!!

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RE: Lost in Austen - 28/8/2008 6:37:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

So is this just the ITV version of Life on Mars but set in Jane Austin land?


Yes, as others have said, ITV's Life on Mars, based on ideas pinched from Jasper FForde.  Not a good start.  Still, it's good to see that the current trend for sci-fi/fantasy programmes is continuing.







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RE: Lost in Austen - 28/8/2008 7:37:19 PM   
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Frankly I'm glad it's not just another lawyer/cop/hospital/period drama starring the usual suspects.  Oh bugger, it is period.  Ah well, at least it's mildly different.

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RE: Lost in Austen - 29/8/2008 2:31:02 AM   
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quote:

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Arterton seems to be getting a lot of roles because she has long legs.


And this is bad because?...

I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I think that I'll be watching something on ITV that isn't football, Al Murray or Harry Hill.

Of course, as this is an ITV drama, I may not even make it to the end of the first episode.

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RE: Lost in Austen - 4/9/2008 9:26:01 AM   
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The good?

Bonneville played a blinder - the only indication in the show that they had read and gotten the original source material because, unlike Joe Wright, this show understands the character of Mr Bennett and Bonneville revelled in it.

The rest, OKish to hohum. At times I thought ITV had forgotten Bonkers flopped miserably. I wondered if this was Bridget Jones for the thicker readers who hadn't gotten the Austen allusions. I assumed they lost the nice Austen readers with unnecessarily tacky landing strip lines.

But then it just seemed to degenerate into wish fulfilment for the chocolate box set - what would you say to characters who annoy you, whether they represent themselves as the book or not. I didn't actually care how she got there and if she did, but I still think Fforde should sue.

Neither Hex alumni acquits themselves well. We played spot the face - mummy from Empty Child and a Honeysuckle Weeks lookalike, apparently. Kingston is OK but isn't given a great deal.

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RE: Lost in Austen - 4/9/2008 12:19:11 PM   
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I didn't mind it, it'll do to pass the time.  However, I couldn't get over the fact that one of the characters is called Piranha, for goodness sake.

Every time I heard the name I was going 'Oh, come on, did they not think this through?'

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RE: Lost in Austen - 4/9/2008 3:27:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Fonz

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ORIGINAL: elab49

Checking the IMDB link and not seeing any credit to Jasper FForde whose ideas have clearly been nicked wholesale for this even down to the original portal. Seems a tad rum.



Agreed, sounds like a blatant rip off of The Eyre Affair. I wouldn't be surprised if the lead character was called Friday Next or something. 


I`ve never heard of The Eyre Affair or anything similar to this so I was very impressed and throughly enjoyed it. The premise may not be orgional but using Pride and Prejudice did seem to be until I read this thread. Anyway I think it has hit written all over it and I won`t be surprised if Hollywood did make a film version of the idea unless The Eyre Affair was it?

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RE: Lost in Austen - 4/9/2008 7:32:41 PM   
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Eyre Affair is the first of a series of books by Jasper Fforde which are probably far too good to adapt properly. A doorstep argument about the identity of Shakespeare is a highlight - but Thursday Next enters the portal to become part of a book, in that case Jane Eyre - she interacts to deal with the story. In this 'original' series - Price - named for the most awful Austen character - enters a portal into a book she can interract in and keep the story on track.

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RE: Lost in Austen - 5/9/2008 8:47:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Peppermint

I didn't mind it, it'll do to pass the time.  However, I couldn't get over the fact that one of the characters is called Piranha, for goodness sake.

Every time I heard the name I was going 'Oh, come on, did they not think this through?'


 I thought exactly the same thing! You can imagine a bunch of businessmen in the producers office trying to get in the youthful psyche, "So what's a cool hip new name to use?" "I know! Piranha!" Twats.

I quite enjoyed this too. The girl irritates me. Seriously, getting pissed and snogging Mr. Bingley? Yeah, sure, great start.

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RE: Lost in Austen - 5/9/2008 9:29:11 AM   
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I won't be surprised when Mr Fforde's lawyers get in touch with the creators of this series. The concept (I didn't watch it) is almost identical to The Eyre Affair! My dad lent me it, and while it took me a while to get into the style it was very good - sort of Douglas Adams meets Jane Austen... in a good way. I have Lost in A Good Book (I mean, Christ, the title of the series is an amalgamation of the two book titles, with a quick change in the book in question) and am looking forward to reading that too. 

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RE: Lost in Austen - 5/9/2008 9:59:54 AM   
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Although they tail off there are moments of genius in them all, I think. Lost in a Good Book - wonderful. The nursery rhymes ones I took a bit longer to get into and still prefer the second one.

Another well-written part - Charlotte Lucas. Again, they seem to have gotten the characterisation bang on for her.

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RE: Lost in Austen - 11/9/2008 9:13:53 AM   
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Oh my goodness! I can't believe how frustrating this is! Jane with Mr Collins?!?!? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Lovin' Mr. Darcy though - he really is a miserable git

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RE: Lost in Austen - 11/9/2008 11:59:46 AM   
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This program is camp as tits.  Love it.  Not a massive Austen fan but my other half is (can't tell you how many times I've suffered.  I get my own back with 24) but i'm enjoying this.

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RE: Lost in Austen - 18/9/2008 12:27:14 AM   
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I come asking one question:

Ladies, what did you think of THE scene?


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RE: Lost in Austen - 18/9/2008 8:30:25 AM   
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Not overly bothered - I like the book not the adjustments to the TV series for the chicklit watchers. Interesting in that she carries the book but clearly it is the TV series she gets off on.

I've found some bits fairly enjoyable generally - more the odd changes - Jane marrying Collins was fun. But Mr Bennett threatening to prance naked through Lady Catherine's drawing room as he totally gives up on his family was great. The more knowing adjustment to Lady Catherine a nice touch, if expected with Duncan's casting - she was, after all, possibly the best Marquise de Merteuil.  The whole rejection didn't work, for me. Not overly convinced by the extrapolation of Bingley's character either - no indication he lost it in London without her - too much of a weed.

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RE: Lost in Austen - 18/9/2008 9:45:49 AM   
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I come asking one question:

Ladies, what did you think of THE scene?


Hmmm...... Did you see those rippling muscles?!  Yum. I thought that scene was hysterical!

This programme is still undeniably frustrating though. Bingley a drunk? Wycombe misunderstood? Darcy loves Amanda?! The rejection was pretty unbelievable, I agree.

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RE: Lost in Austen - 18/9/2008 10:11:47 AM   
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What I cant seem to get over is Georgiana being the person in the wrong - that's just shit.
I certainly think Mr Bennet is amazing in this show, the only one I think truly represents his character as described in the novel.
Darcy follows, until he fell in love with Amanda, but we all knew it was going to happen sooner or later...


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RE: Lost in Austen - 18/9/2008 10:30:53 AM   
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What I cant seem to get over is Georgiana being the person in the wrong - that's just shit.
I certainly think Mr Bennet is amazing in this show, the only one I think truly represents his character as described in the novel.
Darcy follows, until he fell in love with Amanda, but we all knew it was going to happen sooner or later...


I didn't see that coming whatsoever either. Or Caroline Bingley being a lesbian! Austen would turn over in her grave...

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RE: Lost in Austen - 18/9/2008 10:58:37 AM   
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No, that was certainly going a bit too far.
Having Wickham as the villain for so many years only now to find (at least in LIA) that he was wrongly accused is something I can't come to terms with.
I really don't know what to make of this series!


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RE: Lost in Austen - 18/9/2008 1:01:41 PM   
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I'm not sure what to make of it either - though I can't seem to stop watching!

It's as if all your worst nightmares of what could happen in Pride & Prejudice is happening. It's actually very frustrating. I wouldn't be surprised if Amanda ends up with Wickham (right spelling!) at this point.

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RE: Lost in Austen - 18/9/2008 1:07:37 PM   
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No, that was certainly going a bit too far.
Having Wickham as the villain for so many years only now to find (at least in LIA) that he was wrongly accused is something I can't come to terms with.
I really don't know what to make of this series!



Um - 'now to find'? Well no, he isn't. This isn't the book - it is just a popcorn entertainment show. Surely it won't affect anyone's reading of the book?!?

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RE: Lost in Austen - 18/9/2008 1:18:48 PM   
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I haven't been watching this show, but it sounds like they have decided to play on the themes of P&P by having the modern character 'prejudiced' towards the characters she meets as people because of what she read in the book - so it is turning everything we know about them from the book on its head.

I can see why they decided it'd be a clever take on it, but it can't possibly work - the joy of P&P is that everyone gets what they deserve in the end, if you screw up that by changing who deserves what you can't have a satisfying romance, and so all you are going to do is piss of the people who like P&P! 

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