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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 3/9/2008 4:06:25 PM   
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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 4/9/2008 1:30:42 PM   
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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 5/9/2008 8:36:09 AM   
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I read in the transfer rumours section of the bbc website today that MON is interested in Joey Barton. I really hope it's a rumour and nothing more.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 5/9/2008 9:47:00 AM   
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 We won't sign him. We've already got Barry, Petrov, Reo-Coker, Gardner, Sidwell, Salifou and Osbourne as centre midfielders so it's not like we're short in that area. Pointless lie made up by a tabloid paper to fill space that they can get away with because everyone will have forgotten about it come the next transfer window.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 5/9/2008 11:30:17 AM   
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 I read the Joey Barton rumor as well, on the BBCi Sports Gossip thingy
 
I know that the only way it'd be true is if Martin O'Neil, and everyone else at the club had some kinda brain freeze, but joking aside, if that thug signs a Villa contract, I'm never setting foot in Villa Park again.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 15/9/2008 11:58:13 AM   
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 So, Tottenham tonight. I'm not gonna make a prediction, given what happened the last time I made one (before the Stoke City game), but I'm quietly confident we're gonna come away with more points than we go into the game with.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 15/9/2008 10:28:30 PM   
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Check out this article from the Times website:

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Very good.

Great result tonight BTW,

Gooo On.  Another 3 points to take from the baggies on Sunday makes it a good start so far.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 15/9/2008 10:48:45 PM   
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 Good win for Villa tonight if it hadn't been for that slip at Stoke it would be a perfect season so far (i'm saying a draw against Liverpool is a good result). MON is doing us Celtic fans proud, good luck against WBA at the weekend.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 16/9/2008 8:35:06 AM   
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 Another great result for the 'Dark Horses'. We've got a busy week ahead, Lena Lovich on Thurs & Baggies on Sunday-luckily we've got the strength in depth this season.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 16/9/2008 11:57:50 AM   
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 Another good result last night - 4th in the league - If only the Premier League could finish now, I think we'd all be happy
 
Definitely agree with paul on the forthcoming fixtures - Once the Litex Lovech match kicks off, we've got 7 matches in the space of a month, including the big match (at least as far as me and my Dad are concernced) against the Baggies - A draw, or God forbid, a loss, isn't worth thinking about - We need to go to the Hawthornes, and win.
 
Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think we Villa fans might look back at September / October as the making / breaking of our season.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 18/9/2008 3:35:42 PM   
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Eeek! 1-0 down to Litex Lovech, whoever the fuck they are.

Good luck though.
The last time we were in Europe (Leicester) under God himself we got knocked out in the first round to Atletico Madrid. We drew 1-1 away (Ian "Gypo" Marshall getting the goal) then Gary Parker was sent off in the home leg for taking a free kick early, and we lost.
The referee was disgraceful that night and robbed us of the win.
I was in the directors box on that night and O'Neill stormed intot he lounge area after the game in the worst mood I've ever seen. The then-chariman tried to console him and he just glared at all the corporate guests (myself included) and gave us a look of compete and utter contempt. Despite the fact we were never really going to win the UEFA Cup, MO'N was distraught to be knocked out. You can't buy that kind of passion.
Hopefully (despite not being a Villa fan) you can go all the way this time.


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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 19/9/2008 8:13:41 AM   
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 3-1 flattered us to be fair. I definately won't be attending the home leg of this on as it will be a bore draw & worse than the FH game.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 19/9/2008 10:19:45 AM   
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 Pretty shocking performance really, but I'll definitely take 3-1 away from home. The home fixture should just be a formality now, so unless something horrific happens we'll be making the group stages.

I'm looking forward to Sunday now and a real West Midlands derby between two proper football clubs, not like when we play that blue shite. I'm going to be watching it with my Mum and Stepdad who're both Baggies so I hope we hammer them!


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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 19/9/2008 10:28:06 AM   
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Eeek! 1-0 down to Litex Lovech, whoever the fuck they are.



Sounds like some evil Bond henchwoman who wears PVC and carries round a big tub of KY Jelly. 

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 19/9/2008 3:15:00 PM   
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 Bleedin' PVR - I programmed this to record, with every intention of keeping away from knowing the result, until I got back home, when I'd watch it live.
 
For some reason it recorded Channel 4 instead - so I didn't actually get to see the match, only read about the result online - from what I've been reading, the score definitely flatters our performance - 3-1 against a bunch of part-timers, with only 9 men on the field?
 
Still, it's better than it could have been, and hopefully there won't be any slip-ups on the return leg.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 22/9/2008 11:42:05 AM   
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 Massive, Massive result yesterday - For a start I come from a family of WBA fans, so to go to The Hawthornes and beat 'em was pretty sweet - especially as I was there amongst the Villa travelling fans, and I know the old man was there with the WBA fans (he's a season ticket holder).
 
Really we shoulda won this more comfortably - it easily coulda been more like 4-1 or 5-1 - given how quickly we got the two goals, I gotta say, I was hoping for us to run the riot act against 'em.
 
Still, 'tis a really good result - we're still 4th, and given the fixtures we've got, I'm pretty optomistic we can keep this up for the next few matches.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 25/9/2008 8:26:49 AM   
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 Well that's just typical. First game I make this season and we lose to a Championship side. We were pretty awful really but still had enough chances to win it. Petrov had a decent enough game and Young showed flashed of what he's capable of, but apart from that the players just didn't look interested. Barry, especially, was absolutely dire, and Harewood seems to be playing with less than no confidence. Gardner and Osbourne didn't exactly stake a claim on the first team, nor did Cuellar or Knight. Guzan flapped at a cross in the build up to their goal, but did make a decent save later on. It was just pretty poor really and hopefully we'll improve in time for Saturday.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 25/9/2008 10:51:26 AM   
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 What the fuck? Seriously - we're supposed to be challenging for the Champions League within the next few years, and we go and put in performances like the one last night, against QPR? We keep this kinda routine up, and we're gonna be battling to stop out of the bottom 3.

OK, so perhaps it aint all that bad, but I said before that the run of games in September & October would be important - we got off to a good start, with away wins against Tottenham, Litex Lovech, and perhaps most importantly (as the product of a WBA supporting family) against WBA. Hopefully, this aint gonna be the start of a blip in terms of performance - we need to put this behind us, focus on the second leg against Litex Lovech, as well as focusing on the Premier League.


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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 25/9/2008 1:28:03 PM   
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 I don't have a problem with getting knocked out of this cup, we fielded a below strength team so what did we expect?

My problem though, is down to the positive comments by MON stating that he would take this cup seriously. It's quite plain that we didn't. We didn't field a team that could beat QPR on our own turf so we obviously are not taking this cup seriously & any good result last night will have only been a bonus-simple.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 28/9/2008 12:58:27 PM   
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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 30/9/2008 8:31:46 PM   
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 ^ Hell yes. It's not often you get to rub Man Utd fans' noses in it.

I'm not arsed about going out of the league cup. I think tbh, yes, we fielded a second string side, yes, we didn't play very but yes, we should have won the game. They scored one of their two efforts on target, and we had better chances and should have taken them. The game against Sunderland on Saturday was more important, as is the fixture (if not the actual game) on Thursday is also more important. We're in it for the Premier League, as far as I'm concerned, and European football was part of MON's 5 year plan (which he achieved in 2 years).

Chelsea is obviously going to be our biggest test so far of the season. Liverpool didn't really give anything to that game, and they're only where they are cos they've got easy goals late in the game, and played a below - par man Utd side and a truly appalling Everton. Chelsea will be the biggest test to our top four credentials so far, however we've got a decent record against them - 4 points and 6 goals against them last season, including game of the season on boxing day, the only team that Mourinho never beat. We should put out our 100% strongest side and while we should always play to win, we should be careful of the slip ups, and conceding goals that we're prone to, and get defensively tight. They were in disarray when we beat them last year, and under Avram Grant at Christmas. This year, they'll be a tougher prospect.

I'd like to see some fringe players on Thursday (yes, I'm going) - like to see Guzan get another game, Gardner aswell, and play Routledge and Salifou from the start in place of Young and, I would say Petrov, but it's quite obvious that Petrov's gonna start. Routledge and Salifou linked up beautifully against Hafnarfjordur, and like that game, we're going into this one knowing we don't have to win. Hell, we could lose and it won't matter a bit.


As long as we don't lose more than 3 - 1.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 5/10/2008 1:02:34 PM   
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^ Hell yes. It's not often you get to rub Man Utd fans' noses in it.

I'm not arsed about going out of the league cup. I think tbh, yes, we fielded a second string side, yes, we didn't play very but yes, we should have won the game. They scored one of their two efforts on target, and we had better chances and should have taken them. The game against Sunderland on Saturday was more important, as is the fixture (if not the actual game) on Thursday is also more important. We're in it for the Premier League, as far as I'm concerned, and European football was part of MON's 5 year plan (which he achieved in 2 years).

Chelsea is obviously going to be our biggest test so far of the season. Liverpool didn't really give anything to that game, and they're only where they are cos they've got easy goals late in the game, and played a below - par man Utd side and a truly appalling Everton. Chelsea will be the biggest test to our top four credentials so far, however we've got a decent record against them - 4 points and 6 goals against them last season, including game of the season on boxing day, the only team that Mourinho never beat. We should put out our 100% strongest side and while we should always play to win, we should be careful of the slip ups, and conceding goals that we're prone to, and get defensively tight. They were in disarray when we beat them last year, and under Avram Grant at Christmas. This year, they'll be a tougher prospect.

I'd like to see some fringe players on Thursday (yes, I'm going) - like to see Guzan get another game, Gardner aswell, and play Routledge and Salifou from the start in place of Young and, I would say Petrov, but it's quite obvious that Petrov's gonna start. Routledge and Salifou linked up beautifully against Hafnarfjordur, and like that game, we're going into this one knowing we don't have to win. Hell, we could lose and it won't matter a bit.


As long as we don't lose more than 3 - 1.


Amen to that, although I'm a bit more optomistic, in terms of the score - I think if we do lose, it aint gonna be by that much - realistically, it's gonna be the performance that's more important than the result - although as O;Neil keeps saying, someones gotta beat Chelsea at home, at somepoint


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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 7/10/2008 1:37:26 PM   
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 Tough draw-Hamburg, Zilna, Slavia Prague & Ajax-wouldn't mind an away trip to the latter (for football purposes obviously )

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 7/10/2008 2:54:33 PM   
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 Ajax (home) - October 23
Slavia Prague (away) - November 6
Zilina (home) - December 4
Hamburg (away) December 17

I think that we can take something from all of those games, except perhaps Hamburg if they continue their current good form. Zilina at home should be a formality and Ajax are nowhere near the European powerhouse they used to be. Slavia Prague away could be a tricky tie but I'm confident of getting at least a draw there. Ideally we want to have guaranteed qualification before the Hamburg game. There are a number of teams in the draw that prove that this is a quality competition. Sure, it's not the Champions League, but it's still of a high standard, and it's great to see Villa competing in it.


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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 4/11/2008 10:55:12 AM   
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 Well last night's result was pitiful. We had a chance to go third and blew it against the team who were bottom of the league. I just get the feeling that this team doesn't handle pressure well, and until they learn to cope with it better, we don't have a hope of finishing in the top four. Take last season. All we needed to do to secure automatic entry into the UEFA Cup was win our last two games against Wigan and West Ham. We lost to Wigan and Drew with West Ham, and had to rely on the blue shite doing us a favour and beating Blackburn for us to qualify for the Intertoto Cup. And now this season, as soon as people start to think we might realistically challenge for a Champions League position, due to Arsenal's poor form, we fuck up against bottom of the table Newcastle. We should have another chance at the weekend to move above Arsenal, as they have to play Man Utd, and we have Middlesbrough, but with the UEFA Cup game between now and then, I don't know what will happen.

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 7/11/2008 9:59:21 AM   
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 Well that was better! Good first half, nervy second half, but we held on so that was the main thing. The players who were brought in did their job well in the main, especially Salifou and Guzan. I was pretty impressed with Sidwell too. I would have taken a draw before the game so to win was a fantastic result. Barring a complete disaster at home against Zilina we will qualify from the group stages now, and with Hamburg beginning to drop off in the Bundesliga there is the real possibility of finishing our group top.


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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 10/11/2008 11:39:18 AM   
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 Bollocks. Absolute bollocks. If we had won our last two games against, lets be honest, completely shite opposition, we would currently be in third place in the league, five points clear of Man U in fifth and more importantly eight points clear of Everton who are currently our closest challengers for fifth place. We should have been moving away with the big boys, putting a bit of a gap between us and the rest. As it is, thanks to two truly abysmal results, we are only two points above Everton now, and our next two games are Arsenal and Man U. The win over United will probably have given Arsenal a huge confidence boost just in time for our game against them so I wouldn't bet against them dishing out one of their trademark hammerings. Then we've got the United game, which we might as well just not bother with and give them the three points as I can't remember the last time we actually got a result against Man U. Happy times...

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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 16/11/2008 1:41:44 PM   
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 I might be talking to myself in here but I don't care! Fantastic result and fantastic performance! A thoroughly deserved win away at one of the big four. Let's hope that we give Man United as good a game next week, rather than rolling over for them like we normally do.


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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 22/11/2008 10:27:54 AM   
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RE: Aston Villa '08/09 - The European Adventure - 29/11/2008 4:58:13 PM   
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 So, do Villa not want to actually take that fourth CL spot, or not?

I'd love to see them do it, but they need to be beating the teams below them regularly, if they want to take advantage of Arsenal's wobbly patch. 

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