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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 15/9/2014 11:00:33 AM   
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Very pleased with the result and performance at Liverpool. We created some good chances first half and could have been more than one up come the break, but then defended our lead very well second half and restricted them to very few chances. The new signings seem to be settling well, and we still have a couple to come back from injuries so at the moment I am really content.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 15/9/2014 12:49:33 PM   
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It was the start of a very interesting run of games, wasn't it. Do you think they can sneak another upset against Arsenal at the weekend? I'm thinking with the Gunners just coming off a 2-2 against City, then having Dortmund away tomorrow there is a chance of catching them while they are still recovering at the weekend.

If you can get 5 points off the next 4 games then I think there is a chance that Europe might beckon again.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 16/9/2014 12:07:03 AM   
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It was the start of a very interesting run of games, wasn't it. Do you think they can sneak another upset against Arsenal at the weekend? I'm thinking with the Gunners just coming off a 2-2 against City, then having Dortmund away tomorrow there is a chance of catching them while they are still recovering at the weekend.

If you can get 5 points off the next 4 games then I think there is a chance that Europe might beckon again.

Don't start coming out with things like that you will put the kabush on us

After the last couple of seasons I just want us to get to enough points to have us pretty much safe by christmas and then see how high we can finish after that. Doubt we are ready for Europe just yet anyway.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 16/9/2014 5:17:19 PM   
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I was impressed by Villa at the weekend they looked well organised and defended really well. They didn't let Liverpool into the game at all.

Loved how brilliantly annoying Senderos was against Balotelli too.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 17/9/2014 6:03:16 PM   
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We've just given a new three year deal to ALAN HUTTON! That is what you call pushing the boat out

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 20/9/2014 7:14:11 PM   
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Was quite pleased for twenty minutes today, but then out classed by a very good side, we never recoved after that. It was important that we didn't totally go under and lose by four or five second half. If we finish mid-table this season I will be happy, and so far I have seen enough to suggest that we can do that.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 29/9/2014 11:37:00 AM   
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Anti-climax this weekend for us. On to another easy fixture against City on Saturday Will go for a draw there to stop the steady semi-decline

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 29/9/2014 11:44:57 AM   
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I like Aston Villa this season. I believe you could get more than one point from City...

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 29/9/2014 11:59:26 AM   
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Anti-climax this weekend for us. On to another easy fixture against City on Saturday Will go for a draw there to stop the steady semi-decline


This is how I see the Villa story

Start of season Lambert under pressure

16 Aug 1-0 Win vs Stoke
23 Aug 0-0 Draw vs Newcastle
31 Aug 2-1 Win vs Hull
13 Sep 1-0 Win vs Liverpool

17 Sep Lambert signs new 4 year contract

20 Sep 3-0 Loss vs Arsenal
27 Sep 3-0 Loss vs Chelsea

If we could only find some reason that good start might have fizzled out


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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 1/10/2014 4:31:31 PM   
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Very good If Keane shaves off that scary beard we could be fucked!

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 2/10/2014 9:34:07 PM   
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Good news to hear than Benteke will be back in the squad for the weekend. No need to rush him back I would give him the last twenty minutes
maybe a bit more if we are struggling. It is good timing, as there is a lack of cutting edge up front which we have so far got away with due
to the team being well set up and able to grid out tight wins, but we can only do that for long.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 5/10/2014 8:07:02 PM   
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Think Villa were really poor yesterday. Would say it was the worse performance out of the three recent defeats. Of course we had to try and contain
City up to a point, but I think we showed them too much respect, whereas last season when we beat them a big part of the win was how we got
about them in midfield, but at the same time still defended well and hit them on the counter. Yesterday, we failed to get that balance. Of course
losing Gabby in the warm up didn't help, and I don't know why CZG keeps getting games. Still we remain in the top ten, but really could
do with getting at least a point at Goodison next time out. For us the International break may prove a good thing as Benteke and Vlaar maybe
able to get back to full fitness.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 17/10/2014 9:56:28 AM   
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If Villa can get a point at Goodison tomorrow I will be pleased as it would stop our mini-slide. It is a tough place to go, and Everton need the
points a bit more than us right now so it will not be easy. Think we need to make it tough for them to play in the early exchanges and get
the crowd on their back, then look to grab something late on. Vlaar is fit again for us which is good news, but it maybe a changed line-up
at the back which isn't the best thing when going to Everton.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 30/10/2014 10:19:51 PM   
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If we can't even beat QPR then I really can't see a way we are going to get a result against Spurs on sunday. Even given their iffy form, they
are good on the ball, and strong on the counter so a trip to Villa Park is right down their streak. If this run goes on for much longer then it will
be judgement day for our manager. I say give him till Christmas, if we are about 12th and have shown signs of improvement then I would stick
with him, but if we are 16th/17th then I think it will be time for a change.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 31/10/2014 10:41:38 AM   
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Be careful what you wish for....

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Very good If Keane shaves off that scary beard we could be fucked!


Start of season Lambert under pressure

16 Aug 1-0 Win vs Stoke
23 Aug 0-0 Draw vs Newcastle
31 Aug 2-1 Win vs Hull
13 Sep 1-0 Win vs Liverpool

17 Sep Lambert signs new 4 year contract

20 Sep 3-0 Loss vs Arsenal
27 Sep 3-0 Loss vs Chelsea
4 Oct 2-0 Loss vs Man City

10 Oct Roy Keane shaves off beard

18 Oct 3-0 Loss vs Everton
27 Oct 2-0 Loss vs QPR

I guess in good news, Roy seems to be growing it back again

Not only is that a poor run of 5 losses in a row. But it is made doubly (or even triply) worse as each game has been lost by more than one goal and you've not scored a single one at the other end.

On this kind of form, in that run to Christmas I can only see Burnley and Leicester as games you should win. It is 8 games. To be safe from relegation you really need a point a game. So those 2 wins and a couple of draws or another win and you are just there. But to make 12th you are probably going to need to take 12 points from the 24 on offer and that seems a big ask to me right now.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 1/11/2014 1:33:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Professor Moriarty


Be careful what you wish for....

quote:

ORIGINAL: ElephantBoy

Very good If Keane shaves off that scary beard we could be fucked!


Start of season Lambert under pressure

16 Aug 1-0 Win vs Stoke
23 Aug 0-0 Draw vs Newcastle
31 Aug 2-1 Win vs Hull
13 Sep 1-0 Win vs Liverpool

17 Sep Lambert signs new 4 year contract

20 Sep 3-0 Loss vs Arsenal
27 Sep 3-0 Loss vs Chelsea
4 Oct 2-0 Loss vs Man City

10 Oct Roy Keane shaves off beard

18 Oct 3-0 Loss vs Everton
27 Oct 2-0 Loss vs QPR

I guess in good news, Roy seems to be growing it back again

Not only is that a poor run of 5 losses in a row. But it is made doubly (or even triply) worse as each game has been lost by more than one goal and you've not scored a single one at the other end.

On this kind of form, in that run to Christmas I can only see Burnley and Leicester as games you should win. It is 8 games. To be safe from relegation you really need a point a game. So those 2 wins and a couple of draws or another win and you are just there. But to make 12th you are probably going to need to take 12 points from the 24 on offer and that seems a big ask to me right now.



That maybe true, but sometimes logic like that doesn't really work in Football. I expect us to lose easily tomorrow, but you never know
Spurs are a funny team right now, so if we do get a result against them then that could be the start of a turning point. But like I said I will be
judging Lambert at Christmas.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 4/11/2014 12:08:02 PM   
Professor Moriarty

 

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Totally agree that football can be unpredictable, its what makes the game interesting.

Villa will probably consider themselves unlucky not to get at least a point against Spurs and if they'd stayed at 11 men they might have even got a win. But from that game come IMO 3 pieces of bad news:
- A late loss to a rather flukey goal will not do anything for morale
- Only a single shot on goal is their story of the season, a very small number of chances created, which in the first game were being converted and the wins were happening but since has really started to look a problem
- I expect it is a straight 3 match ban for the straight red to Benteke who seems the most likely to create those chances

IMO the best time to switch managers is when the sum of the parts just isn't delivering. I think this is the situation that Villa will become faced with very quickly as to sell the club Lerner needs them to be in the PL and he won't want to be spending in the Jan transfer window if he wants to sell.

For me, Lambert has two games left against West Ham and Southampton. If he fails to deliver 3 points from those I'd have the trigger pulled and a new manager (preferably Pulis) instated. Because the following 3 games are Burnley, Palace and Leicester. They are all winnable outings and if I were the owner I'd prefer to put what I can in place to achieve that.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 5/11/2014 12:07:09 AM   
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Pretty much agree with all of that post including-the thoughts on Sunday's game. We played the best we have in awhile and really could have
done with the luck going our win, which sadly it didn't. Even getting a draw would have given us something to build from, to me the ref had
a poor game, he just lost control of the players and should have punished at least one Spurs player for his part in the sending off. Both Benteke
and Weinmann worked really hard up front, and it will be harder getting the points we need in the next few games without Benteke.

I am still undecided if Learner will pull the trigger on Lambert. If he knew he was going to be the owner for the long term it would be one thing,
but that is in doubt. Also he has always been very loyal to the manager. I would stick with seeing where we are at Christmas, if we did
make a change I would go for either Punis or Moyes I think both could do excellent jobs.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 8/11/2014 10:57:10 AM   
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Yesterday I booked tickets for me, my mum and antie to see the away game at Crystal Palace next month. It will be interesting to see where
we are come that match or even if Lambert will still be in charge.

As for today with the match being at Upton Park it is very difficult to see us getting anything given West Ham's recent form and our problems.
If we can regain our battling performances from the August-Sept we could get something, but I can see it being another long afternoon.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 12/11/2014 4:23:49 AM   
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Decent point on Saturday. They edged the first half, but actually created more late on in the second half which overall I felt we were the
better team in. The work rate from the players was good, the defending not too bad, and some of the football an improvement (not that, that
would be hard). We got our luck this week unlike last week, and I think deserved a draw which I would have taken before the game. Now we
need to go one better. The next four matches are crucial now for me.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 30/11/2014 5:19:47 PM   
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"WHAT A WEEEEK ITS BEEN"!

Well I always said it would end in tears with Keane, except I expected something a little more dramatic than what we got. It is no surprise he has left, but the timing is not great. I don't think he added too much, but it certainly doesn't help matters and I think he could have waited until after Christmas myself.

It now seems that we have gone from defeat specialists to draw specialists, but based on Lambert's tactics and the overall performances of the team we look unlikely to get a run of wins anytime soon. I was more pleased with the Southampton draw than yesterdays, but at least we were a bit more postitve yesterday at least in the first half and Joe Coles good outting a goal was a plus. Again we just lacked the cutting edge or creative ideas to kill the game, or the focus to at least defend the slim lead. In short we are still too sloppy despite slightly improved performances. Having only got a point at Turf Moor we need to try and win at Palace Tuesday. I will be there and will be very nervous as its a tough place to go and it seems like any team are causing us problems right now. We need to aim for a couple of wins at least over the next three games, other wise?.... Well you all know already

In other news Bent has somehow secured a loan move to the lovely seaside town of Brighton, and I reckon has already spotted a nice KFC to pass the time between games. The move makes sense for all concerned. Lambert has never liked him, and he is a shadow of his former self. He has already made an impact so good luck to him.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 4/12/2014 12:13:25 AM   
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Had a great time at the match yesterday. Even if it was really nerve wracking and once again we did make life tough for ourselves. Still, the players worked very hard throughout the game, we passed the ball a little better than we have been, defended well despite sloppy errors, and Benteke looked class on his return and scored what proved a very good winner. We had our luck, and Palace were really wastful second half, but having dropped points again Saturday, it was a time to grid out the win and ask questions later. Our first win in nearly three months, thank fuck for that! The atmosphere was cracking too. Villa had about 2'500 there which is just about all the away end, and they support was a credit to the club.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 8/12/2014 5:00:56 PM   
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I'm really happy Villa are doing well. Seem to have a good thing going this season.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 9/12/2014 11:34:32 PM   
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Not sure, it is a bit early to get too excited really. It was important that we got that second win in a row sunday, and that we are picking up points against the teams around us. The one big improvement this season has been the defence, it was that area espically which has given us problems the last two years, but it does look more solid this year. The team spirit seems good at the moment, and having Benteke back is massive, not just for his goal threat but because he brings the best out of the players around him. Still not convinced by Lambert and his tactics, but as long as we are mid-table by Christmas and looking fairly solid then I am happy to stick with him for now.

As for the FA Cup draw, we got Blackpool at home, guess its a very middle-of-the-road draw which I don't know if either will be really up for. As a fairly esay tie for this stage I can't complain, we just need to focus, and also keep the manager away from a press conference the night before

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 15/12/2014 7:14:44 AM   
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Poor result at the weekend. With Man Utd up next who I think we will lose to (because hey we always do at Villa Park), this was a good chance to get another win under our belts or at least to take a point. It also looked like West Brom were there for the taking. Guess we will see where we at Christmas can't help but thinking that a better manager would be getting better out of this group of players.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 21/12/2014 12:44:21 PM   
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A good point yesterday and one of our best performances of the season so far. We were well worth the draw and even had the better chances to win it in the second half. The likes of Vlaar and Depth made a big difference, and Becuna (a player I have always quite liked) looked good when coming on. We really responded well to going down to ten men also, and with a bit of luck the red card will be recided as it was a 50-50 challenge and a yellow at the most.

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