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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 21/1/2014 8:08:43 PM   
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Excellent point for Villa on Saturday and more importantly a much improved performance. At times against the bigger teams this season we have shown that on our day we can be pretty decent. Still a bit of work to do before we can say we are clear of danger, a derby win against West Brom would go a long way, won't be easy though, has draw written all over it

Have to agree with you here in the last 15 mins against Arsenal after Benteke scored we were all over them and unlucky not to take a point from the game, whilst against Liverpool Gabby going off hurt us a lot as we lacked the pace up front.

Despite losing a 2 goal lead, wont go on about the Suarez diving and so on but the team showed great character to hold Liverpool and keep them to a draw and hopefully we can take this spirit into our next match against West Brom were a win would be perfect taking us to 27 points.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 29/1/2014 8:23:49 PM   
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VILLA! VILLA! VILLA! Get in Delph my son! Can't wait to watch the highlights later even if we don't win it.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 29/1/2014 9:08:48 PM   
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Three in three now for Benatake! Now damn it Villa just close the game the down, these would be three big points

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 29/1/2014 10:00:24 PM   
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Great fight shown by us tonight and we are looking more like a team. I do wish we wouldn't be so sloppy at the back, but hopefully that will improve as Vlaar stamps his personality more on the back four.

Anyway we are starting to get things together now and tenth with 27 points is a pretty strong position to be in right now. A point at Everton on saturday will do me.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 4/2/2014 4:52:30 PM   
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Was a bit let day with Saturday's defeat, having held on for so long was at least hoping to get a point. Still, always expected a hard game and we put in a good showing at a different ground. If we beat West Ham at the weekend, then that should be us safe and able to start looking up.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 2/3/2014 8:19:04 PM   
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Would have been happy with a one nil win today (was a big that!), but to win 4-1 not least at home where we have been terrible this season and to come back from a goal behind was a great boast. I actually think sometimes that going a goal down early actually benefits us, whereas if we score first and then don't get a second soon after we are unsure what to do and don't have the confidence to really take control. The spirit we have shown at times under Lambert is one of the big differences between us under him and us with McGlish.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 15/3/2014 10:32:20 PM   
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Its been awhile since I have looked forward to match of the day so much! Great victory for us tonight and by the sounds of it well deserved. Am really pleased for Delph also. It was so funny hearing the Chelsea fans cry a river on the Phone-In. We make the title race interesting that is just what we do

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 27/4/2014 2:09:47 PM   
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Am very worried now. Next week is a must win at home to Hull because we finished with away games at Man City and Spurs and its hard to see us getting much from those, so its simple if we win next weekend we should stay up, but if we don't win then things will be getting very deparate.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 27/4/2014 4:45:08 PM   
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I remember when they both came to the PL, I thought that Lambert was the better manager than Rodgers. I know that what the two have had to work with is quite different, but I just don't see Lambert moving forwards and he'll be out in the summer. Don't see them going down though.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 27/4/2014 6:25:53 PM   
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I remember when they both came to the PL, I thought that Lambert was the better manager than Rodgers. I know that what the two have had to work with is quite different, but I just don't see Lambert moving forwards and he'll be out in the summer. Don't see them going down though.


I think there have been a number of factors why he has struggled at Villa, one is having very little more to spend and having to rebuild almost a whole team. His main mistake has been relaying too much of youth, also he has struggled adapting to life at a bigger club than Norwich.

I think if Learner is there next season then Lambert will be too, if not then I can see a change. I would give him another season or at least half a season.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 8/5/2014 8:50:45 PM   
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Safe for another season then, but unless something changes at the club I can see us going down sooner rather than later.

Would be nice to get at least something from Spurs on Sunday just to end another difficult season on a decent note.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 12/5/2014 10:55:58 AM   
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As expected we have put up for sale with Lerner asking for around 200M. Wonder if he will get that?

Its a shame as Randy has been one of the better over seas owners and I have liked his model for running the club, but outside of the four very exciting MON seasons things just haven't worked out for a number of reasons. Certainly have preferred him to 'Deadly Doug' but maybe it is time for a change. Am just worried about who we might get...

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 12/5/2014 11:03:05 AM   
Professor Moriarty

 

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As expected we have put up for sale with Lerner asking for around 200M. Wonder if he will get that?

Its a shame as Randy has been one of the better over seas owners and I have liked his model for running the club, but outside of the four very exciting MON seasons things just haven't worked out for a number of reasons. Certainly have preferred him to 'Deadly Doug' but maybe it is time for a change. Am just worried about who we might get...


It's funny. As I think you can almost see the exact moment where it all went awry for Lerner. That '08-'09 season when they were in the top 3. I think if they had made the CL there'd have been more investment and the team would have pushed on. But a terrible run of form saw them drop out of contention that season (and I think the next).

At that point, I believe that Randy decided the money required to take a club to the next level was too much for him and Villa started to be run as a stable business, rather than one pushing to grow.

That doesn't mean that Lerner has not been a professional businessman and his steering of the club has not been good. But its a shame you can almost see the moment in time when he decided to go that way.


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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 12/5/2014 7:23:33 PM   
ElephantBoy

 

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As expected we have put up for sale with Lerner asking for around 200M. Wonder if he will get that?

Its a shame as Randy has been one of the better over seas owners and I have liked his model for running the club, but outside of the four very exciting MON seasons things just haven't worked out for a number of reasons. Certainly have preferred him to 'Deadly Doug' but maybe it is time for a change. Am just worried about who we might get...


It's funny. As I think you can almost see the exact moment where it all went awry for Lerner. That '08-'09 season when they were in the top 3. I think if they had made the CL there'd have been more investment and the team would have pushed on. But a terrible run of form saw them drop out of contention that season (and I think the next).

At that point, I believe that Randy decided the money required to take a club to the next level was too much for him and Villa started to be run as a stable business, rather than one pushing to grow.

That doesn't mean that Lerner has not been a professional businessman and his steering of the club has not been good. But its a shame you can almost see the moment in time when he decided to go that way.



Well we did have a good run at the top four the next season also, but certainly that was the season where it looked certain than we would get there. Ironically O'Neill's best season might have been his last, sixth, FA Cup Semi, and League Cup final it was just a shame we faced Man Utd and Chelsea in those cup games. Still there was a case for saying we had gone as far as we could, but I do think the owner has made some poor calls since then.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 12/5/2014 10:42:43 PM   
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And Deadly Doug is about to add his pearls of wisdom on 5LIVE he doesn't miss a trick does he?

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 17/7/2014 4:29:43 PM   
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What an odd summer it is turning out to be. Roy Keane our most high profile signing. No new owner in sight, uncertain about the future of the manager, and some very dodgy bargin basement buys, the best of a bad bunch being Kierian 'flippin' Richardson.

It looks like another scrap at the bottom to me. If we keep some of our better players like Vlaar, Delph and Bentake has a better a season then I think we might just stay up, but at the moment things are looking all a bit desprate

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 2/8/2014 6:15:12 PM   
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I know friendly results don't mean much, but Villa just got their arses handed them 4-1 by a mid-table Dutch side. Will be watching the highlights (if that is the right word) later, but by all accounts we were terrible, bar a small spell in the second half. We need a decent centre half (unless Okore stays fit and proves to be a good buy), maybe a full back, a good winger, and a good creative midfielder at least. Yeah I can't wait for the season to start

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 4/8/2014 8:48:49 AM   
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Yeah I can't wait for the season to start


Now the mighty Foxes are in the Premiership, you're not even the biggest club in the Midlands anymore

I know it's been frustrating for you, but full marks to Lambert IMO for keeping you up last season.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 4/8/2014 3:30:13 PM   
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Yeah I can't wait for the season to start


Now the mighty Foxes are in the Premiership, you're not even the biggest club in the Midlands anymore

I know it's been frustrating for you, but full marks to Lambert IMO for keeping you up last season.


Thanks for the patronising pat on the back mate

Good luck to the Foxes this season, have always quite liked you as a club even when you were beating us all the time and playing just like Wimbledon

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 7/8/2014 10:37:56 AM   
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Read a report from the telegraph that Randy has dipped into his wallet and produce 10Mill to try and "boost us". Well its something but you won't get much for that in this market, so the manager better spend it wisely

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 7/8/2014 11:32:00 AM   
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When I'm wondering how much Joe Cole can improve a team, I think that team is already in trouble

My memory is going, but in the last couple of seasons (if I'm right) they've pretty much been saved by having a good 1st half of the season, before they start to rapidly circle the plug hole of relegation.

This season, I look at their September / Oct fixtures and they have a run of:
- Liverpool (away)
- Arsenal (home)
- Chelsea (away)
- City (home)

They could well be in the bottom 3 by November, and if they are they might find it hard to lift themselves again. I wish ye luck, but then I think you'll need a lot of that.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 10/8/2014 12:58:49 PM   
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When I'm wondering how much Joe Cole can improve a team, I think that team is already in trouble

My memory is going, but in the last couple of seasons (if I'm right) they've pretty much been saved by having a good 1st half of the season, before they start to rapidly circle the plug hole of relegation.

This season, I look at their September / Oct fixtures and they have a run of:
- Liverpool (away)
- Arsenal (home)
- Chelsea (away)
- City (home)

They could well be in the bottom 3 by November, and if they are they might find it hard to lift themselves again. I wish ye luck, but then I think you'll need a lot of that.

Two years ago we were actually closer to the drop than last year, and it was mostly our results in the big six pointers near the end of that season that saved us. The goals from Benteke and crucal saves from Guzan really saved our bacon at times. Last season was more a case of solid first half and then totally falling apart near the end. Think we got into a bit of comfort zone after beating Chelsea, and the manager just didn't seem to know what to do to change things. His transfer dealings have mostly been iffy throughout his time here. I agree with you, right now next season looks even more of a struggle because the club just has no direction and the pressue will just get worse for the manager.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 12/8/2014 3:04:16 PM   
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Hi Villa peeps.
I have posted in the fantasy thread as to whats happening this year. Well, looks like nobody's looking forward to the football this season......

As we have 3 days left here is the code for the Empire league I have created and imaginatively called 'Empire Fantasy Football League'. It's always fallen to YFU to do this previously but maybe he's away or just tired of people waiting for him to do it.? Anyway....

623092-402866

See who I see on there I guess......

gp
ps-spread the word.....

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 15/8/2014 9:26:14 PM   
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More positive news for Villa today with the signing of holding midfielder Carlos Sanchez, it might prove our best signing of the summer. With the
defence still looking fragile it was an area we needed to look at, also we do need to keep the ball better. He may struggle to adapt to English football
but hopefully he can improve us in that area.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 17/8/2014 8:44:37 PM   
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Very pleased with Villa's win yesterday. Would have taken a draw from Stoke, but it was a good battling performance, and clean sheet should give the defence confidence. Weimann getting the winner is another plus as we need the likes of him to step up this season. If we can take about four points from the next two then that would be a pleasing start.

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RE: Aston Villa - 10/11 - 20/8/2014 11:53:54 PM   
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Interesting week coming up for Villa coming off the back of that good opening day win. We have Newcastle at home in the early kick off Saturday, they are a team who we always seem to lose to no matter how poor they seem at the time, and based on our recent home form and that they are just as good if not better team/squad wise then I see us struggling a bit in that one. Then we have two more home games, first in the Cup against Orient mid-week, and then next Sunday against Hull. Given the opening win a draw wouldn't be a terrible result against the Toon as long as we beat Hull, and of course I want us to progress in the cup, and to give some different players a game (such as Okore). The next week could go some way in showing weather Saturday's result was a fluke or not.

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