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The Shadow - 31/7/2008 4:14:12 PM   
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Okay, this is a major guilty pleasure of mine. Obviously the films is flawed as hell, Lone is hammy in the extreme as Shiwan Khan (and that fake beard is godawful), Koepp's script is full of holes, some of the effects are a bit shoddy..but damnit it's still a lot of fun. Baldwin is very good as the titular hero, his voice perfect, effortlessly charming and cool-looking, the cinematography is quite good, the film has that nice pulp, 1930s feel to it, but with plenty of style and color amped up, Penelope Ann Miller is beautiful and sexy, Tim Curry is funny as usual, cool gadgets, a number of good action scenes..Jerry Goldsmith's score..There's plenty of fun to be had. The perfect film for a rainy Sunday afternoon. Any other fans? Anyone?






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RE: The Shadow - 31/7/2008 4:23:47 PM   
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Liked it as a kid, but haven't revisted it recently it's a bit of a shamble. Part of the problem is theres too much special set plays and not enough character, plus thhe realtionship between the Shadow and Ann Miller is totally wasted.

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RE: The Shadow - 31/7/2008 4:38:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ElephantBoy

Liked it as a kid, but haven't revisted it recently it's a bit of a shamble. Part of the problem is theres too much special set plays and not enough character, plus thhe realtionship between the Shadow and Ann Miller is totally wasted.


Yeah, Koepp's script isn't exactly fantastic, the characters certainly could have been more fleshed out, but I still find the film enjoyable

If it's been a really long time since you saw it, maybe you should give it a watch if you get the chance. Who knows, maybe you'll have fun

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RE: The Shadow - 31/7/2008 4:56:36 PM   
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Sorry but this film was just plain embarassing.Awful awful script and terrible acting.Baldwins laughing as the shadow was camp as christmas.

The part that sticks out in my mind is the bit where baldwin is followed by one of the baddies(whos wearing a suit of ancient armour!) down a busy street.The guy wasnt exactly blending in was he?Amazingly enough,baldwin knows hes being followed!

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RE: The Shadow - 31/7/2008 4:58:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: darth silas

Sorry but this film was just plain embarassing.Awful awful script and terrible acting.Baldwins laughing as the shadow was camp as christmas.

The part that sticks out in my mind is the bit where baldwin is followed by one of the baddies down a busy street while wearing a suit of armour.Amazingly enough,baldwin knows hes being followed!


You don't have to say sorry, I know most people hate the film and for a lot of good reasons

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RE: The Shadow - 31/7/2008 6:31:15 PM   
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Yay!A bit of Shadow appreciation!
No such thing as a guilty pleasure,you either like it or you don't,and i like The Shadow.Cheesy and naff it may be,but look at the old 1930's pulp serials it riffs on and it works.Where else can you find a living knife that bites your hand if it doesn't like you?
While we're at it,can someone start a thread for it's partner in crime,The Phantom?

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RE: The Shadow - 31/7/2008 7:06:10 PM   
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ONly watched this at the weekend - its so cheesy but yes it is a guilty pleasure sure enough.  Its not the best but its by no means the worst - that would be batman & robin.

As for the Phantom, have that on DVD too, might watch that this weekend


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RE: The Shadow - 31/7/2008 7:15:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rubadub

Yay!A bit of Shadow appreciation!
No such thing as a guilty pleasure,you either like it or you don't,and i like The Shadow.Cheesy and naff it may be,but look at the old 1930's pulp serials it riffs on and it works.Where else can you find a living knife that bites your hand if it doesn't like you?
While we're at it,can someone start a thread for it's partner in crime,The Phantom?
The Phantom,now thats a different story.I enjoyed that.It definetly has the worst tagline for a movie ever...''SLAM EVIL!''.Wtf were they thinking?

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RE: The Shadow - 7/8/2008 11:39:36 AM   
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I liked it because of the Jim Steinman composed theme song at the end.

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RE: The Shadow - 7/8/2008 11:48:33 AM   
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The Shadow is one of these films I could see over and over again, just turn your brain off and let a dreary rainy day pass with entertainment. I liked Baldwin an Miller in this and the invisible building, brilliant!

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RE: The Shadow - 7/8/2008 12:13:55 PM   
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There was a rumour that Miller was such a pain in the arse during filming  that Baldwin and the production crew kept telling her she looked fat so she lost loads of weight by the end of it.

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RE: The Shadow - 7/8/2008 1:40:54 PM   
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"The Shadow knows"  Love this movie. I thought it was great as a kid and although it has dated, it still counts as one of my guilty pleasures.

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RE: The Shadow - 8/8/2008 9:14:20 AM   
Kazuya


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ORIGINAL: Jessica_ca_ca_ca

"The Shadow knows"  Love this movie. I thought it was great as a kid and although it has dated, it still counts as one of my guilty pleasures.


Exactly. Good to see there are actually people who like the film besides me
Oh, and mejaars, I loved the sequence with the invisible building too, the music cue that underlines it is cool as well.

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RE: The Shadow - 8/8/2008 10:55:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tftrman

There was a rumour that Miller was such a pain in the arse during filming  that Baldwin and the production crew kept telling her she looked fat so she lost loads of weight by the end of it.


Hahaha

Wasn't Miller also in The Relic, another one of those too daft so it's fun movies.

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RE: The Shadow - 11/8/2008 2:05:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mejaars

quote:

ORIGINAL: tftrman

There was a rumour that Miller was such a pain in the arse during filming  that Baldwin and the production crew kept telling her she looked fat so she lost loads of weight by the end of it.


Hahaha

Wasn't Miller also in The Relic, another one of those too daft so it's fun movies.


Wasn't she in Kindergarten Cop as well?

Actually, barring the steamy looks from Baldwin... ... I really like Ian McKellen as Reiiiiiiinhardt Lane. Dithering fool who can't tell from green to red. Absolutely adorable.

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RE: The Shadow - 11/8/2008 2:13:43 PM   
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Yeah, McKellen's performance is quite enjoyable, even if he doesn't exactly do much

And Penelope Ann Miller was in Kindergarten Cop, I actually kinda like that one too

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RE: The Shadow - 11/8/2008 2:20:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kazuya

And Penelope Ann Miller was in Kindergarten Cop, I actually kinda like that one too


Me too  Those kids were so cute.

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RE: The Shadow - 11/8/2008 2:56:57 PM   
Kazuya


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Yeah, they were pretty cute. So was the ferret

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RE: The Shadow - 11/8/2008 11:27:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mejaars

quote:

ORIGINAL: tftrman

There was a rumour that Miller was such a pain in the arse during filming  that Baldwin and the production crew kept telling her she looked fat so she lost loads of weight by the end of it.


Hahaha

Wasn't Miller also in The Relic, another one of those too daft so it's fun movies.


I wasn't able to tell because no one turn on a bloody light during the entire movie.

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RE: The Shadow - 11/8/2008 11:30:54 PM   
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I bet you just had your eyes closed,you big scared jessie.

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RE: The Shadow - 12/8/2008 11:50:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: directorscut

quote:

ORIGINAL: mejaars

quote:

ORIGINAL: tftrman

There was a rumour that Miller was such a pain in the arse during filming  that Baldwin and the production crew kept telling her she looked fat so she lost loads of weight by the end of it.


Hahaha

Wasn't Miller also in The Relic, another one of those too daft so it's fun movies.


I wasn't able to tell because no one turn on a bloody light during the entire movie.


Haha, you're absolutely right, it could have been Nicole Kidman for all I know

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RE: The Shadow - 12/8/2008 1:05:39 PM   
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I've never actually been able to sit through this whole film... maybe I'll have to give it a try.  But maybe someone who has watched it could tell me something.  Why the fuck is Alec Baldwin wearing the wierdest facial prosthetics in that photo in the original thread? Does The Shadows face change in the movie or something? Why are his eye's so tiny and beedy like Millhouse?

On a side note, yes The Relic is so dark it's stupid.  The Phantom is ace. Penelope Ann Miller was in both The Relic and Kindergarten Cop.  And Carlito's Way.  Anyone for some Rocketeer appreciation?

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RE: The Shadow - 12/8/2008 2:42:15 PM   
Kazuya


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ORIGINAL: porntrooper

I've never actually been able to sit through this whole film... maybe I'll have to give it a try.  But maybe someone who has watched it could tell me something.  Why the fuck is Alec Baldwin wearing the wierdest facial prosthetics in that photo in the original thread? Does The Shadows face change in the movie or something? Why are his eye's so tiny and beedy like Millhouse?



It's his outward appearance when assuming the Shadow identity, the clouding of men's minds. Or something.

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RE: The Shadow - 12/8/2008 2:57:48 PM   
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Batman Begins seems to have borrowed a few origin ideas from this film. 

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RE: The Shadow - 12/8/2008 3:09:14 PM   
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Well the Batman character itself is inspired by The Shadow, so...

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RE: The Shadow - 15/8/2008 10:59:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kazuya

Okay, this is a major guilty pleasure of mine. Obviously the films is flawed as hell, Lone is hammy in the extreme as Shiwan Khan (and that fake beard is godawful), Koepp's script is full of holes, some of the effects are a bit shoddy..but damnit it's still a lot of fun. Baldwin is very good as the titular hero, his voice perfect, effortlessly charming and cool-looking, the cinematography is quite good, the film has that nice pulp, 1930s feel to it, but with plenty of style and color amped up, Penelope Ann Miller is beautiful and sexy, Tim Curry is funny as usual, cool gadgets, a number of good action scenes..Jerry Goldsmith's score..There's plenty of fun to be had. The perfect film for a rainy Sunday afternoon. Any other fans? Anyone?


I agree, Kazuya. Flawed it was, but I enjoyed the '30s ambiance, sort of a reference timeframe for most comic book heroes. I think they nailed the atmosphere; the voice also was cool, kind of reminiscent of the Batman growl in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, where Bruce Wayne changes the tone of his voice as he assumes the Batman persona.


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RE: The Shadow - 14/2/2013 12:42:14 PM   
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Was thinking of picking this up as I remember enjoying it as a kid. For some reason, I've become obsessed with these pulpy heroes of the 40s and was also considering tracking down Billy Zane's The Phantom. Anyone seen it? Also, how bad is The Spirit really? Is it the train wreck they say?



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RE: The Shadow - 18/2/2013 6:00:00 PM   
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I bought this on DVD recently as I remembered loving it when I first saw it. It still stands up pretty well. The only thing that doesn't is all the Dr Evil style laughing from everyone.

E.g... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3No8Oy3438

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