jobloffski
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Joined: 30/9/2005 From: elsewhere
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Watched it again, still liked more than most of you guys. Liked it anyway, but there's little things I noticed like: The department store bit, where a scene takes place around a table and some bunk beds (holy self reverential piss taking, etc) And the noise Kryten makes when Lister says at the very least he might be able to pick up a spare nose is priceless. There's definitely a lot of 'fan service' in the threeology, and anybody pissed off about the 'rerun' of the basic idea of the other Back To... episode might like to look again and notice theres a big clue that's gonna be the case in the title, a big clue in the presence of a squid, and consistent clues in the form of the cat making origami squids. 'The big sci-fi comedy' idea in this story is not the retread of a classic RD twist or the 'borrowed' League of Gentlemen plot, its you didn't exist until this story created you, your universe and your memories (of how great Red Dwarf used to be?). That's pretty spiffing as a swansong for the show and made it inevitable that such a plot would be heavily reliant on Blade Runner, given the whole creation of memories thing. Shame so many felt 'serviced' rather than served by Back To Earth. Give it another go, and remember, the gags WEREN'T always as cast iron as you remember they, WERE often groanworthy and so if you can't watch the glee with which Lister makes Rimmer repeatedly whack his balls into the corner of a table and feel some of the old Dwarf reaching you, it's not the Dwarf that died...it's you. Much of what is in BTE is NOT inferior to the worst of 'old' Dwarf. And some of it is pretty vintage quality stuff (particularly the 'zoom in on a water droplet' Blade Runner pisstake ending with 'wouldn't it have been quicker to look him up in the phone book' is as good a gag as the show has ever contained, using the same formula of an amusingly pompous build up and a one liner to completely undercut what has just been said that is the trademark of the show). If you didn't like the 'the candle that burns half as bright burns four times as long' type stuff, I don't care, cos I did. It made me laugh. Job done. Yes sometimes its a bit rushed, and yes, perhaps it's a two parter masquerading as a three parter, but it aint a middle finger to any fan except the kind of fan going 'go on then, impress me like you used to' and failing to notice the dialogue, gag construction, development and payoff is VERY much like it used to be. Unfortunately the direction style (trying to be more movie like and the absence of the laughter track of the early days) conflicts with the immediacy of the gag delivery because performers in front of a studio audience get an immediate response, and therefore can tweak the comic timing to get the biggest laugh. Take that away from this sort of material and you hurt it a bit, but that doesn't automatically make the writing weaker. Anyone else notice the creator telling the smegsters that Blade Runner inspired their creation, yet slightly later a gag based admission that Hitch Hikers guide to the galaxy had quite a lot to do with it too, and probably more? step forward, rake hits you in face? Repeatedly? For anyone refusing to show BTE a little love, I guess you'll always have Parrots (ie other episodes in which RD riffs on an already established story for its content (including lifting 'we are legion and we are many' directly from The Bible) and sometimes taking the mickey out of actual scenes in actual films. BTE only does exactly what RD always did. And is its level of ideas really below that of a monster made from curry? And people have even complained about the show referring to pop culture, but that is something Dwarf has done before (Androids soap opera took the piss out of Neighbours, a popular show at the time I believe). The show was always a mishmash of homage and sci-fi (and anythiong else an idea could be ripped from!), and it's fitting that one iconic work in the sci-fi genre should end by taking the piss out of another, while honouring it and exploiting its themes for its own plot purposes, er, like Red Dwarf used to... Sorry for the 'know all bastard' tone, guess when you defend something it requires more detail and passion than an 'its good' response to 'its shit comments'. I accept that BTE had many flaws, just wanted to focus on what was good about it. Later smegheads (sorry) EDIT FOR MANNY: EXPLAINING HOW RIMMER BECAME A HOLOGRAM AGAIN: They opened the show with NINE YEARS LATER and didn't bother explaining anything (ignoring previous continuity is something else the show has done before). They also refer to events during a tenth series (and there are only nine aren't there?) so resolving the cliffhanger would probably be done if BTE inspired enough buzz to get a new, tenth, series made. But covering themselves, they just didn't explain and that was even cheekier than the way they rebooted the series to get Kryten back into the show after his initial appearance in series 2. Christ, it's scary how much of this stuff I can spout out. I'm not even a Dwarfer, I just remember stuff.
< Message edited by jobloffski -- 21/4/2009 9:01:25 AM >
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