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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 25/7/2008 8:46:01 PM   
TRM


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I'm seeing The Dark Knight in less than two hours, so I'll rate it then, which pretty much makes this post redundant.


pretty much??

Your in for a treat tonight, my friend. It should be one of the best cinematic experiences of your life.


I think your post may also be redundant as according to his post, he should now be in the cinema  

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 25/7/2008 11:24:11 PM   
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TRM, be nice.

Okay, seen it now. I would very politely ask you to take a look at my full review in DaveNewman's review thread. Along you will find two other great reviews by Dave himself and Piles. I wouldn't want to spoil the surprise, but I will have to post the rating here.

The Dark Knight: 10/10

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 12:02:16 AM   
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The Dark Knight wasn't the best film of all time - hell I'm not even sure if its the best Batman film of all time! But it is better than Begins, which is enough. A solid enjoyable crime film, which although long, never feels too long. 9/10

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 12:34:18 AM   
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TRM, be nice.



Yeah sorry i didn't mean to cause offence shawshank.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 12:38:01 AM   
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I watched life is beautiful (la vita e bella) tonight for the first time. Its a shame it has dropped out of our top 100 but i thought i woud post my ratings in the hope that its enough to pull it back into the 100 films. 10/10.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 12:46:34 AM   
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I watched life is beautiful (la vita e bella) tonight for the first time. Its a shame it has dropped out of our top 100 but i thought i woud post my ratings in the hope that its enough to pull it back into the 100 films. 10/10.


I'm glad you mentioned that, because that's a subject that hasn't been brought up. I'm guessing films which eventually drop off aren't really gonna be true contenders, so it's kinda redundant. The easy solution would be to expand the top 100 into a top 200, but this is about making the top 100 films.

Life Is Beautiful is a great film. I find it strange that all the 'happy' and 'chessy' flicks (It's A Wonderful Life, Forrest Gump, Life Is Beautiful) has such high level of dislike around these parts. I'm sure many have their good reasons, and I'm not knocking people's taste, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone just gave them a 1/10 because the films are not 'elitist' enough (or something like that). Again, no direct accusations, just pointless thinking.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 1:03:53 AM   
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I dont think its that anyone has given them a 1/10 but it doesnt take many 6/10 votes to knock something completely out of contention. I guess with Life is beautiful, there can be the criticism that Guido is played for laughs a little too much (although i kind of found it added to the film). There may also be some dislike for Benigni anyway as he does play his characters in a fairly similar way and i can see why it would be easy to find him annoying. With It's a wonderful life, it could be argued that the films ending is so over the top that it can annoy the viewer (i actualy really like the whole film).

You could also make an argument about why the more artistic films are also not doing well in the list.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 3:17:46 AM   
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I think the argument against Life is Beautiful is surely a political one, and dislike at the way that the holocaust is handled? I know from reading about the film that it was critisised in some circles for showing a concentration camp without suffering and the presentation of the 'game' was quite controversial. I also know that it is based somewhat on Roberto Benigni's father's experience in a concentration camp, but I think something of that nature is likely to offend, or seem distasteful to some. I haven't seen it, but from what I understand, there's distaste from that point of view more than it not being 'arty' or being too feelgood.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 6:39:00 AM   
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4 films in a row there that I haven't seen

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 10:24:26 AM   
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I think the argument against Life is Beautiful is surely a political one, and dislike at the way that the holocaust is handled? I know from reading about the film that it was critisised in some circles for showing a concentration camp without suffering and the presentation of the 'game' was quite controversial. I also know that it is based somewhat on Roberto Benigni's father's experience in a concentration camp, but I think something of that nature is likely to offend, or seem distasteful to some. I haven't seen it, but from what I understand, there's distaste from that point of view more than it not being 'arty' or being too feelgood.


Your right as in there isn't a lot of suffering shown on film, but it is always talked about. There is also still all of the grown men moving anvils whilst talking about the connditions they are working in. When the men come back at night they are always too tired to do anything, and a lot of them never come back. But i guess the big point is that this part of this film is really told from the childs perspective as he has the world around him mostly hid from him by his father. So although there is nothing ever shown on film, it is still all said (or at least hinted at) between the adults. So yes, this does seem to be the main criticism of the film from what i was reading last night, although i think its an unfair criticism as its a story about how the father (Guido) is trying to hide the horrors of the concentration camp to  keep him safe.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 10:36:20 AM   
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Although I can understand the criticism, I can also understand why people love it. As Roger Ebert puts it: "The film falls into two parts. One is pure comedy. The other smiles through tears."


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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 10:39:43 AM   
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I got where the film was coming from.  But I didn't think it was that great 3/5

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 11:23:16 AM   
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I think the argument against Life is Beautiful is surely a political one, and dislike at the way that the holocaust is handled? I know from reading about the film that it was critisised in some circles for showing a concentration camp without suffering and the presentation of the 'game' was quite controversial. I also know that it is based somewhat on Roberto Benigni's father's experience in a concentration camp, but I think something of that nature is likely to offend, or seem distasteful to some. I haven't seen it, but from what I understand, there's distaste from that point of view more than it not being 'arty' or being too feelgood.


WHile a factor, for my vote it wasn't the only one (nor do I require anything to be too 'arty' - honest and heartfelt, e.g.,  isn't arty just engaging.

I didn't rate the performances, the filmmaking either. I would, however, recommend watching it. You might then agree that surprise at its inclusion so high in the IMDB rating in the first place wasn't just the treatment of the subject matter but the quality of the film itself.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 11:57:11 AM   
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elab49, what did you rate it?

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 12:10:31 PM   
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3/10 - I thought it was generally pretty bad.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 1:14:27 PM   
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It's one of my favourite feel good films. It's sweet, funny and takes a unique perspective on such a vicious time. Benigni is excellent and the little kid is cute as a button.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 1:21:37 PM   
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The Dark Knight: 9/10. Best. Superhero Movie. Ever.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 2:27:03 PM   
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Trading places 5/10.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 5:05:08 PM   
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If we are calling into question the markings for films, why all the low scores for Trading Places?  Its about as close as any modern(ish) movie has got to Capra's comedies and I think has some very funny scenes in it.  Can you please tell me this is not comedy gold?



Oh and Jamie Lee Curtis gets them out.... come on now there's something for everyone and more than enough to go around

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 26/7/2008 5:23:58 PM   
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I dont think its 'comedy gold'. I noticed it was in your top 10 of the 80's so you obviously rate it very highly. I just found the acting very poor as well as a lot of the jokes.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 27/7/2008 5:50:04 PM   
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1. Black Narcissus (1947) - 10 (3 votes)
2. Sansho the Bailiff (1954) - 10 (2 votes)
3. Possession (1981) - 10 (2 votes)
4. Lawrence of Arabia (1962) - 9.6 (12 votes)
5. The Apartment (1960) - 9.6 (7 votes)
6. Late Spring (1949) - 9.5 (2 votes)
7. City of God (2002) - 9.4 (16 votes)
8. 12 Angry Men (1957) - 9.4 (12 votes)
9. The Treasure of the Sierre Madre (1948) - 9.4 (8 votes)
10. Rear Window (1954) - 9.3 (13 votes)

11. The Third Man (1949) - 9.3 (11 votes)
12. Das Boot (1981) - 9.3 (9 votes)
13. The Dark Knight (2008) - 9.3 (6 votes)
14. Goodfellas (1990) - 9.25 (18 votes)
15. Singin' in the Rain (1952) - 9.25 (16 votes)
16. The Maltese Falcon (1941) - 9.25 (14 votes)
17. WALL-E (2008) - 9.25 (6 votes)
18. Taxi Driver (1976) - 9.2 (21 votes)
19. Fight Club (1999) - 9.2 (16 votes)
20. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) - 9.2 (13 votes)

21. Seven Samurai (1954) - 9.2 (11 votes)
22. Kill! (1968) - 9.2 (3 votes)
23. Jaws (1975) - 9.1 (30 votes)
24. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) - 9.1 (19 votes)
25. City Lights (1931) - 9.1 (17 votes)
26. The Usual Suspects (1995) - 9.1 (15 votes)
27. Psycho (1960) - 9.1 (14 votes)
28. Double Indemnity (1944) - 9.1 (12 votes)
29. No Country for Old Men (2007) - 9 (19 votes)
30. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) - 9 (18 votes)

31. Once Upon a Time in the West (1968) - 9 (10 votes)
32. M (1931) - 9 (6 votes)
33. Night and the City (1950) - 9 (1 vote)
34. Some Like it Hot (1959) - 8.9 (22 votes)
35. The Elephant Man (1980) - 8.9 (20 votes)
36. L.A. Confidential (1997) - 8.9 (19 votes)
37. Pulp Fiction (1994) - 8.9 (18 votes)
38. Seven (1995) - 8.9 (18 votes)
39. The Godfather (1972) - 8.9 (17 votes)
40. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964) - 8.9 (16 votes)

41. The Godfather Part II (1974) - 8.9 (14 votes)
42. Modern Times (1936) - 8.9 (11 votes)
43. Blade Runner (1982) - 8.8 (33 votes)
44. Reservoir Dogs (1992) - 8.8 (21 votes)
45. Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975) - 8.8 (19 votes)
46. Citizen Kane (1941) - 8.8 (14 votes)
47. Schindler's List (1993) - 8.8 (14 votes)
48. Sunset Blvd. (1950) - 8.8 (13 votes)
49. Paths of Glory (1957) - 8.8 (12 votes)
50. Amadeus (1984) - 8.75 (20 votes)

51. Touch of Evil (1958) - 8.75 (14 votes)
52. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) - 8.7 (18 votes)
53. Amelie (2001) - 8.7 (17 votes)
54. Vertigo (1958) - 8.7 (17 votes)
55. Fargo (1996) - 8.7 (16 votes)
56. The Shawshank Redemption (1994) - 8.7 (16 votes)
57. Casablanca (1942) - 8.7 (15 votes)
58. Downfall (2004) - 8.7 (14 votes)
59. North by Northwest (1959) - 8.7 (13 votes)
60. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) - 8.7 (13 votes)

61. Spirited Away (2001) - 8.7 (11 votes)
62. Raging Bull (1980) - 8.6 (20 votes)
63. Memento (2000) - 8.6 (19 votes)
64. Rashomon (1950) - 8.6 (13 votes)
65. There Will Be Blood (2007) - 8.6 (13 votes)
66. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966) - 8.6 (12 votes)
67. The Lives of Others (2006) - 8.6 (10 votes)
68. Alien (1979) - 8.55 (20 votes)
69. Once Upon a Time in America (1984) - 8.5 (27 votes)
70. Strangers on a Train (1954) - 8.5 (18 votes)

71. Pan's Labyrinth (2006) - 8.5 (18 votes)
72. To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) - 8.5 (10 votes)
73. Metropolis (1927) - 8.5 (9 votes)
74. My Neighbour Totoro (1988) - 8.5 (6 votes)
75. Floating Clouds (1955) - 8.5 (3 votes)
76. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) - 8.4 (18 votes)
77. On the Waterfront (1954) - 8.4 (18 votes)
78. The Empire Strikes Back (1980) - 8.4 (17 votes)
79. Chinatown (1974) - 8.4 (16 votes)
80. Apocalypse Now (1979) - 8.4 (15 votes)

81. The Matrix (1999) - 8.3 (21 votes)
82. All About Eve (1950) - 8.3 (18 votes)
83. The Manchurian Candidate (1962) - 8.3 (14 votes)
84. Rebecca (1940) - 8.3 (12 votes)
85. La Chinoise (1967) - 8.3 (3 votes)
86. Aliens (1986) - 8.2 (21 votes)
87. Cinema Paradiso (1988) - 8.2 (12 votes)
88. The Sting (1973) - 8.2 (11 votes)
89. The Big Lebowski (1998) - 8.2 (11 votes)
90. It's a Wonderful Life (1946) - 8.2 (9 votes)

91. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) - 8.1 (19 votes)
92. A Clockwork Orange (1971) - 8.1 (18 votes)
93. Star Wars (1977) - 8.1 (16 votes)
94. The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957) - 8.1 (14 votes)
95. The Seventh Seal (1957) - 8.1 (14 votes)
96. The French Connection (1971) - 8.1 (7 votes)
97. The Prestige (2006) - 8 (26 votes)
98. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) - 8 (19 votes)
99. Requiem for a Dream (2000) - 8 (12 votes)
100. The Silence of the Lambs (1991) - 7.9 (16 votes)

Red, bold, italics = New Entry
Bold, italics = Rating increase
Italics = Rating decrease



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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 27/7/2008 5:57:37 PM   
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Annie Hall (1977)
After a string of failed relationships with strong women, a neurotic Jewish comic, Alvy Singer, finds the love of his life in an insecure WASP, Annie Hall, who proceeds to "find herself" through all manner of personal-growth activities.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 27/7/2008 5:58:36 PM   
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This is turning out to be quite an interesting list. Certainly very different from the yearly one in Movie Musings.

Btw, can a film that's dropped off the list make a re-entry?

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 27/7/2008 5:59:06 PM   
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The Truman Show (1998)
Surreal social dramedy about a cheery suburbanite who makes the staggering discovery that his town is, in fact, a TV studio, his family and friends actors, and he the star in a popular TV series. En route to freedom, he learns a great deal about himself, and about the surprising person behind the sham.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 27/7/2008 5:59:19 PM   
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Annie Hall- 10/10
The Truman Show- 7/10

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 27/7/2008 5:59:53 PM   
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The Truman Show: Good, but not much extraordinary in repeated viewings. 7/10

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 27/7/2008 6:01:10 PM   
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Annie Hall 9/10.Which reminds me that i should see some more or Allen's films.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 27/7/2008 6:01:22 PM   
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Ghostbusters (1984)
Three parapsychologists lose their academic grant and go into private business as exorcists. The trio encounter a building that is a major receiving tower for ghosts and spirits.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 27/7/2008 6:02:06 PM   
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The Truman show 9/10.

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RE: The EMPIRE FORUM Official Top 100 Movies - 27/7/2008 6:03:33 PM   
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Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927)
Dark, expressionistic, landmark silent film about a beautiful seductress who convinces a country boy to kill his wife and move to the city. Somber masterpiece is a must for cinema history buffs.

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