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RE: Why are stupid people rating this - 20/5/2008 5:09:59 PM   
coljohnmatrix


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Show some respect?  He's right though.

George and Steven are the ones he need to show us some fucking respect.  Without the fans they'd be nothing and they (especially Lucas) think nothing of trying to bleed us dry at every turn.   


Really? Are they?

A gap of 19 years between Indy films is them trying to bleed us dry?...

No one is making you buy a ticket for the new film, or the merchandise, or special edition DVDs...etc.

I agree that a spin-off franchise starring Shia just sounds like an idea to milk the franchise dry, but fuck it...if (assume such a film was ever made) you think it's a bad idea then send a big fuck-you message to Lucas by not paying to see the film.

Man. Such rabid fan-boyism on here.

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RE: Why are stupid people rating this - 20/5/2008 5:20:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Goodfella

And until then I won't read any Cannes bullshit, any crap from that fat ginger twat's mouth (not that I usually do anyway!) or anyone else who wants to get their name in lights by calling it rubbish.



Incidentally that *"fat ginger twat" (as if being overweight with red hair has any bearing on the discussion what so ever) loved it.

*Assuming you mean Harry Knowles that is


I was under the impression he hated it. Didn't AICN give it a right slating?


There are a few reviews on AICN from different writers, and Knowles is the one who loved it the most. The other two main reviews (forgotten their names) thought it was great/quite good. There is a bad review on there though.


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RE: Why are stupid people rating this - 20/5/2008 5:35:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gazdance

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Show some respect JRockwell, Spielberg and Lucas have contributed to the film industry in more ways than you can possibly imagine. Im also willing to bet that if they go on to do a franchise with Shia as the lead, at the very worst it will be better than any National Treasure bullshit!!


Show some respect?  He's right though.

George and Steven are the ones he need to show us some fucking respect.  Without the fans they'd be nothing and they (especially Lucas) think nothing of trying to bleed us dry at every turn.   


its not like the two of them have a workshop where they make movie merchandise and press dvds in the wee hours of the night now is it,the studios are more responsible for this,  movies are a business if you dont want to but the merchandise and dvds then dont its that simple

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RE: Why are stupid people rating this - 20/5/2008 7:20:21 PM   
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Why are people rating the movie based on posts? Does this forum have a moderator? 

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RE: Why are stupid people rating this - 20/5/2008 7:28:15 PM   
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No we're left to roam freely as god intended

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RE: Why are stupid people rating this - 20/5/2008 7:46:42 PM   
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Empire's review further backs up my scepticism to be honest. Like every other 'positive' review I've read, it seems like it's written by someone who can't bare to give it anything below four, despite the content of the review. Just look at the final paragraph alone; it's supposed to be the 'good points' paragraph and yet there's more negative comments than positive ones. The best anyone can seem to say about it is "it's holds it's own next to the other films" and other similar platitudes. There's an underlying disappointment to all of it which will be admitted once a general consensus is reached amongst fans and cinema-goers.

Sorry to bring down the mood and all that.

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RE: RE: - 20/5/2008 9:25:12 PM   
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Read it, rather pleased, also read that it got a standing ovation at cannes - roll on thursday!!!!! 

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RE: not really a review - 20/5/2008 9:41:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: krudler

But he's not, the immortality only works if you stay in the temple and dont cross the seal on the floor, thats the reason it collapses when Elsa walks over it with the grail, the price of immortality is never being able to leave the place, thats why the first 2 knights who had it died of "extreme old age" as Indy says earlier

so there


You might be right...


No that's not right.  It's the grail that can't cross the seal.  The immortality isnt confined to the cave.  That would be pointless.

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What on Earth? - 20/5/2008 10:50:19 PM   
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Why are people bitching/sticking up for a review and a film that has been seen by no one on this 'forum'? Just buy some tickets for this friday as I have and go and enjoy the fucking movie, I hate the way autistic nerds always have a pointless pre-opinion that is only based on the just as pointless negative reviews and bizarre fanboy prejudices. I hope its good, really I do, and therefore based on the other films performances I shall go with an open heart and take what I can from the experience. And if its as disappointing as the starwars prequels I shall then and ONLY THEN write snide internet comments on the SA and Empire forums.

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- - 20/5/2008 10:53:18 PM   
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I furthermore swear to god that I will purge you all

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- 21/5/2008 7:16:08 AM   
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radicalpaddyo, if you hope it's good, then why are you giving it a fucking 1 star!!!!

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RE: Posters giving ratings without seeing films - 21/5/2008 9:23:43 AM   
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How about you just don't worry about it. That might work.

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RE: Posters giving ratings without seeing films - 21/5/2008 9:32:39 AM   
boove


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why does everyone give such a fig about these stupid little stars?

i never look at the user rating.  i barely notice there are stars anyway.  grow up.

the user rating is not actually going to re-edit the film in anyway before you see it.  just thought i would point that out to you losers that are getting upset by people giving 1 star etc.  the film will stay the same as it was in cannes. 

chill out. 

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RE: Posters giving ratings without seeing films - 21/5/2008 10:05:23 AM   
Radicalpaddyo

 

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IsabelB, you are on the list of those to be purged.  Don't hide behind your outraged fanboy exterior, I will fight you and that is no lie.  Until the film is seen, tested, tasted and approved, or shunned, by me I shall not deem to grace any under 12 forums with a genuine review.  Further note, anyone out there going this friday, anyone bringing whips? 
Shame on you.

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RE: Why are stupid people rating this - 21/5/2008 10:10:50 AM   
JRockwell


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Really? Are they?

A gap of 19 years between Indy films is them trying to bleed us dry?...

I agree that a spin-off franchise starring Shia just sounds like an idea to milk the franchise dry, but fuck it...if (assume such a film was ever made) you think it's a bad idea then send a big fuck-you message to Lucas by not paying to see the film.

Man. Such rabid fan-boyism on here.No one is making you buy a ticket for the new film, or the merchandise, or special edition DVDs...etc.



I will not be paying to see this Indy film, any future one, or cartoon and I don't own any of the films on dvd. I know my stance will not make any difference to Rubberface and Beard's massive wealth but what I do know is that fool me once Phantom Menace, shame on you, fool me twice Crystal Duck, shame on me.

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Saw it yesterday. - 21/5/2008 11:44:01 AM   
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And yes, it is the movie the fans were hoping for. It's great. I'm still looking for words to really describe it, but I think I just need to see it a whole lot more often ;) Just go see it, it's great.

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Re. - 21/5/2008 11:53:58 AM   
antdaviesuk

 

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Saw it last night and I couldnt believe what I was watching.

The script is very bad, the acting with the exception of Shia, is very bad. It doesn't make sense, [edited for spoilers]. It's just weird, Reminded me of the phantom menace.

Give me a break at work and wait for batman.

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RE: - 21/5/2008 12:12:30 PM   
Piles


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ORIGINAL: antdaviesuk

Saw it last night and I couldnt believe what I was watching.

The script is very bad, the acting with the exception of Shia, is very bad. It doesn't make sense, [edited for spoilers]. It's just weird, Reminded me of the phantom menace.

Give me a break at work and wait for batman.


Where did you see it?

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Review from last night - 21/5/2008 12:23:08 PM   
Acho


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Maybe hold off on some spoilers there antdaviesuk. The film makers went to great lengths to keep the bulk of the plot a surprise, so everyone's entitled to go into it fresh.

Saw the film at an advance screening last night in Dublin. Overall I'm happy. From the opening bit (old Paramount logo, 50's soundtrack, good camera work) through the various action, and even exposition, sequences, I felt the film sustained a very good pace. Indy is looking nicely lived-in (Harrison Ford's still got it!), Mutt was a surprisingly (for me) decent addition (Shia la Boeuf holds his own very well, and not one instance of "No, no, no, no"!). There was nice interplay between the various characters, with plenty of laughs and nice moments. The odd character felt, if not superfluous, then at least over-cast (actors of the high calibre of John Hurt and Jim Broadbent weren't given a whole lot to do). Although I'm happy to accept that as a mark of quality and ambition, when even smaller roles are given to solid actors (the janitor from Scrubs!).

There are a number of very well done action sequences. I particularly liked the one through the university campus. As well as being a great set-piece, it was also a very good opportunity to admire the production design (not that that was the conscrious thought running through my head at the time!). The 50's setting of the film works very well and there is a lovely feel to the proceedings.

There were a couple of others moments, alright, where suspension of belief was required. Above and beyond the norm, that is (we'll always accept certain stretches of credulity and physical laws with Indy!). The general direction of the final act didn't sit too well with me, but I will accept that that is a reflection of my own personal preference (let's just say I prefer Last Crusade to Raiders), but I certainly wasn't the only person after the film who was a little disappointed with it.

That said, my own view, and general consensus, was certainly one of appreciation, delight and, needless to say, relief. The worst thing that could have happened was for this film to feel completely unnecessary and an embarrassing addition to a quality franchise. It holds up on its own merits (a few quibbles aside) and compares well to the previous installations (without running the risk of becoming the front-runner in any 'Best Indiana Jones' polls). I loved the final scene, felt it had real warmth and humour to it, so a nice end note to a very enjoyable, entertaining evening at the cinema.

On a ten point scale, I'd give it a solid 7, approaching 8, so I'm happy with 4* out of 5.


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RE: Review from last night - 21/5/2008 12:31:43 PM   
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So early signs suggest its enjoyable but nothing spectacular.

Has the hype driven its spear in again I wonder?

On the other hand that was the situation with 'Casino Royale' just before it was released and I bloody loved that!

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RE: Review from last night - 21/5/2008 12:40:44 PM   
Acho


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ORIGINAL: Goodfella

So early signs suggest its enjoyable but nothing spectacular.



That's no bad thing though, Goodfella. A good film is just that - a good film. If anyone's going in expecting the second coming, they only ever going to be disappointed. Just adjust expectations for what they should be for any Indiana Jones film - exciting, entertaining, funny - and it'll all be fine!

It possibly just depends on how much you've succumbed to the hype. I was certainly really looking forward to this, but I'd avoided reviews/previews/excess TV spots in recent weeks, in order to avoid over-hype and fatigue before seeing it.

I should note that there was one guy dressed up as Indiana Jones at the screening last night! Leather jacket, fedora, khaki trousers - he was just missing the whip! I wish I'd asked him what he thought of it, as he was probably set up to be either bitterly disappointed or blindly effusive about it!


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RE: not really a review - 21/5/2008 12:58:14 PM   
krudler


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ORIGINAL: The Todge

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ORIGINAL: DanCurley

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ORIGINAL: krudler

But he's not, the immortality only works if you stay in the temple and dont cross the seal on the floor, thats the reason it collapses when Elsa walks over it with the grail, the price of immortality is never being able to leave the place, thats why the first 2 knights who had it died of "extreme old age" as Indy says earlier

so there


You might be right...


No that's not right.  It's the grail that can't cross the seal.  The immortality isnt confined to the cave.  That would be pointless.


no it is right, its says this in the movie, the first 2 knights who protected the grail drank from it and died hundreds of years later when they got home, and the knight at the end plainly says the price of immortality is never leaving the place, watch it and pay attention

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Empire Sells Out - 21/5/2008 1:33:34 PM   
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4 stars for this movie, an absolute disgrace. Empire has finally sold its soul, becoming nothing more than an extension to industry hype. What's the bets you knock a couple of stars off for the dvd release? utter bullshit.

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RE: Why are stupid people rating this - 21/5/2008 1:44:49 PM   
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I will not be paying to see this Indy film, any future one, or cartoon and I don't own any of the films on dvd. I know my stance will not make any difference to Rubberface and Beard's massive wealth but what I do know is that fool me once Phantom Menace, shame on you, fool me twice Crystal Duck, shame on me.


Worst post of the year.....

Good review here.
http://entertainment.uk.msn.com/movies/specials/summer-blockbusters/article.aspx?cp-documentid=8347259

"A brilliant adventure. The problems with Indy IV are only skin deep - ignore them and be amazed."


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CALM DOWN! - 21/5/2008 1:54:32 PM   
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I can't help but feel the main problem at the moment is everyone is looking way too deeply into a film that is, and always has been, about fun, adventure and escapism. Not about expert film making or brilliantly structured writing, and in many ways that is what make Indy as expertly done as it is.

Attacks such as "this new Indy film looks like it's going through the motions" really annoy me because it is plainly obvious that had a different spin been given to the film it would be attacked for that too.

No I haven't seen the new film but when I do (tomorrow) I will not go in judging it, for that is the wrong thing to do. I will go in expecting to be thrilled and entertained which is what an Indiana Jones movie is SUPPOSED TO DO!

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RE: Why are stupid people rating this - 21/5/2008 1:59:18 PM   
krudler


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ORIGINAL: pablohoolio


quote:

ORIGINAL: JRockwell
I will not be paying to see this Indy film, any future one, or cartoon and I don't own any of the films on dvd. I know my stance will not make any difference to Rubberface and Beard's massive wealth but what I do know is that fool me once Phantom Menace, shame on you, fool me twice Crystal Duck, shame on me.


Worst post of the year.....

Good review here.
http://entertainment.uk.msn.com/movies/specials/summer-blockbusters/article.aspx?cp-documentid=8347259

"A brilliant adventure. The problems with Indy IV are only skin deep - ignore them and be amazed."



agreed, "rubberface" and "beard" are two of the most influential filmmakers of all time who have attained more success through their own hard work and sweat than a forum troll could ever possibly dream of, if you dont want to see the movies then dont but id you have nothing constructive to say then shut the fuck up

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RE: - 21/5/2008 2:10:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: antdaviesuk

Saw it last night and I couldnt believe what I was watching.

The script is very bad, the acting with the exception of Shia, is very bad. It doesn't make sense, [edited for spoilers]. It's just weird, Reminded me of the phantom menace.

Give me a break at work and wait for batman.


Spoiler warning - you fucking stupid cunt.

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RE: Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull - 21/5/2008 4:12:29 PM   
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Watched it this morning as it turned up too late last night at work to get it knocked up and on.

Not gonna go into plot or spoilers as everyone is trying to avoid them. I am a big Indy fan and did worry that the increasingly drug fucked looking Ford couldnt pull it off and when I first heard the rumours of ancient aliens and what not it didnt really do much for me, but recently I started to believe that maybe the Berg etc. could pull it off.

It didnt dissapoint. Empires review is pretty spot on. Its a lot of fun, has great action sequences, Shia and Ford are great, Blanchett is as well, if a bit panto. There wasnt really any point where I thought Indys legacy was getting shit on, It only has a couple of Lucas comedy moments (ie shit comedy moments) and though there is a bit of over the top CGI nonsense it's nowhere near as bad as it could of been.

The plot is a bit all over the place (I forgot why they had to do what they had to do) and once it gets going it seems to jump from action scene to action scene but when your having so much fun who cares?

I liked it, a lot. Dont know if I loved it but on 1st viewing 4/5



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- 21/5/2008 4:34:08 PM   
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Pablohoolio,
Why don't you go talk fucking shit over at Total Film. You're prbably the editor. Go on Fuck off you isulant bastard

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RE: RE: - 21/5/2008 5:00:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: krudler

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Chumba

Pablohoolio,
Why don't you go talk fucking shit over at Total Film. You're prbably the editor. Go on Fuck off you isulant bastard


yeah pablo you INSULANT bastard, go insulate something you insulator

its insolent you fuckwit, why does the reviews thread always attract these trolling newbies who think the forum owes them a favour


Forget it Krudler. Its Indytown.

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