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RE: Best Pratchett book - 8/12/2010 2:06:18 PM   
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Not a fan of the Witches though.



Granny Weatherwax is fantastic, definitely not to be messed with. I think I've said before but Witches Abroad & Carpe Jugulum are great books and showcase how much of a bad ass she is. Takes on all-comers and wins with her knack for 'headology'.

Easily one of my favourite characters, up there with (and maybe quite similar to) Sam Vimes.


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RE: Best Pratchett book - 8/12/2010 3:28:56 PM   
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Just finished I Shall Wear Midnight. Thought it was really good. Wouldn't say it was a children's book at all.


ISWM struck me as Pratchett's attempt to move Tiffany out of the "discworld for kids" series of books and establish her as a more mainstream character.  It certainly had some pretty grown-up themes in it, and I look forward to reading more of her in future books. 

I've now acquired all the Pratchett books for my Kindle, and am slowly but surely re-reading the lot, some of which I've hardly revisited since they were published.  It's great to see the evolution of the characters and the Discworld as I progress through the books in the order of publication.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 8/12/2010 5:31:21 PM   
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I found the initial (off the top of my head I think it was!) introduction to the witches proper quite slow going - but when it got to them attending the play I was just falling about. Hilarious stuff.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 9/12/2010 9:58:56 AM   
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Just finished I Shall Wear Midnight. Thought it was really good. Wouldn't say it was a children's book at all.


ISWM struck me as Pratchett's attempt to move Tiffany out of the "discworld for kids" series of books and establish her as a more mainstream character.  It certainly had some pretty grown-up themes in it, and I look forward to reading more of her in future books. 

I've now acquired all the Pratchett books for my Kindle, and am slowly but surely re-reading the lot, some of which I've hardly revisited since they were published.  It's great to see the evolution of the characters and the Discworld as I progress through the books in the order of publication.


I'm constantly re-visiting the older books but I just can't bring myself to re-read The Colour of Magic & The Light Fantastic. Just a bit too fantastical for me.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 9/12/2010 1:32:37 PM   
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I think TCOM and TLF stand out as Prachett finding his feet. Personally I don't think they are anywhere the level of the other books.

Any idea when the next TV adaptation is due?

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 9/12/2010 2:08:14 PM   
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I'm not sure if they announced what will be adapted - although I'd hope it'd be Making Money (I think Going Postal is the only really successful one).

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 9/12/2010 2:19:12 PM   
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Making Money seems the obvious choice after Going Postal, but I'd quite like to see the witches make an appearance on the gogglebox soon

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 9/12/2010 2:39:27 PM   
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Eileen Atkins has to be Granny Weatherwax, yes?

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 9/12/2010 3:01:30 PM   
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I'm not sure if they announced what will be adapted - although I'd hope it'd be Making Money (I think Going Postal is the only really successful one).


Maybe because it was the only decent adaptation. and one that wasn't centred around David Jason's ego.
Sure it had a few oddities/script changes, Angua would never change in a crowded pub for instance but it kept the spirit and humour of the book.



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RE: Best Pratchett book - 9/12/2010 3:11:13 PM   
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I think so. Someone suggested on the Small Screen thread that it also helped that it removed a lot of the more fantasy parts, and I think that might be right. I've thoroughly enjoyed rewatching the adaptation as well. I can't even bear to think about sitting through Colour of Magic again.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 13/12/2010 11:27:27 AM   
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Eileen Atkins has to be Granny Weatherwax, yes?


What about a French & Saunders as Ogg & Weatherwax combo?

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 14/12/2010 2:32:54 PM   
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Eileen Atkins has to be Granny Weatherwax, yes?


What about a French & Saunders as Ogg & Weatherwax combo?



I've often thought Eileen Atkins make a perfect Granny. Likewise with Dawn French as Nanny. Saunders, no.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 14/12/2010 2:54:25 PM   
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Heck no - Saunders just wouldn't fit.

Not sure about French either - there's an edge to Nanny and I'm not convinced, even with Murder Most and Psychoville, that French could handle it. She defaults to too cosy.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 14/12/2010 3:32:28 PM   
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Heck no - Saunders just wouldn't fit.

Not sure about French either - there's an edge to Nanny and I'm not convinced, even with Murder Most and Psychoville, that French could handle it. She defaults to too cosy.



Yes, I know what you mean. Patsy Byrne could be good, although she may be retired. I wasn't convinced at first by Miriam Margolyes but she's become a closer and closer fit as she's got older.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 14/1/2011 10:34:56 AM   
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I've decided to stick my Pratchett books on Ebay today. Maybe 10 hardbacks and the rest paperbacks. Might buy a Kindle with the proceeds.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 14/1/2011 11:16:15 AM   
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I've decided to stick my Pratchett books on Ebay today. Maybe 10 hardbacks and the rest paperbacks. Might buy a Kindle with the proceeds.



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RE: Best Pratchett book - 14/1/2011 12:02:52 PM   
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I know, I know. Took a bit of soul searching but fuck it, they're taking up precious space under the spare bed.

In fact, they're the Josh Kirby covers you're after - get your purse out and I'll do you a deal.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 14/1/2011 12:10:01 PM   
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Tut - no selling on the Board

Good luck with Ebay - it's not somewhere you get a lot for books in my experience. But if you've got the old first run hardbacks, particularly the early editions, you might be lucky. And be able to fund your devil's device

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 14/1/2011 12:35:00 PM   
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To be honest, I'm not looking for a lot. Just having a clear out and being pretty ruthless about it.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 14/1/2011 1:05:21 PM   
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I've been doing the same with DVDs but books I've pretty much given up on. But I have used the site for those older Pratchett hardbacks - I was a poor student buying paperbacks at first and recently I've been trying to replace them all with the old hardbacks.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 14/1/2011 1:34:11 PM   
Chief


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Just punted all my DVDs a couple of weeks ago!

That's the paperbacks on (31 of). Not sure about the hardbacks, I think sending them will be quite expensive.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 14/1/2011 1:58:26 PM   
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I know, I know. Took a bit of soul searching but fuck it, they're taking up precious space under the spare bed.

In fact, they're the Josh Kirby covers you're after - get your purse out and I'll do you a deal.


Hah, cheers but I actually found them all recently and filled in the gaps in my collection.
I'll never sell them on ebay to make a quick buck to pay for the Devil's Device, even though they are pretty great.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 19/1/2011 11:32:18 PM   
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Not sure if this is the right place but it seems to be the best place to post it.

I have heard on the grapevine, although I'm awaiting confirmation, that the next Discworld film will be Unseen Academicals!


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RE: Best Pratchett book - 19/1/2011 11:36:52 PM   
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That's odd. I'd have though (hoped!) Making Money was the obvious way to go. I found Academicals to be quite a choppy book that rehashed a few too many of the main themes of earlier books - which may mean better books never come up for adaptation because this got here first.

Obviously I'm all agog to see what they do with the Librarian, though. I can see why they think the football might sell - given it's a cross between Slapshot and Shaolin Soccer in the book - but the issue before Going Postal, partly, was they couldn't handle the effects very well. And they'd need a ton for this one.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 20/1/2011 11:08:03 PM   
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They would indeed need a shitload for Unseen Academicals.

Making Money would be nice but they've done a Moist one so I think they're probably trying to do one for all groups of characters.

There's no Witches or The Watch live action tv movies.

THUD! might be good, I love Witches Abroad as a concept book but again it's about the special effects I suppose.



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RE: Best Pratchett book - 20/1/2011 11:29:10 PM   
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I think they've got a problem with any of the novels that go a bit wibbly wobbly with the other side haunting characters or overcoming internal stuff that Pratchett gives a reality to in the books. Thud! would have that quite badly - how to put over the trail of that sign haunting Vimes? I think they might look at Nightwatch as a great contained story that has the same advantages Going Postal has of staying broadly in a more realisable world - but to do it, really, you'd have to know who Vimes is. And getting that right would be the problem.

And it doesn't help that one of the more obvious casting choices has, sadly, just passed on.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 21/1/2011 10:48:57 AM   
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To do Night Watch any justice they really would have to get a couple of Watch features under their belt first. How else could you appreciate what young Nobby and Colon et al will grow into?

Not that fussed for an Unseen Academical show, wasn't that fussed for the book to be honest.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 21/1/2011 11:41:30 AM   
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To do Night Watch any justice they really would have to get a couple of Watch features under their belt first. How else could you appreciate what young Nobby and Colon et al will grow into?



Exactly. Yet shorn of dragons, and various races, etc, I'd guess it would be the easiest to adapt. Which is quite frustrating

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 21/1/2011 12:53:43 PM   
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I'd like to see Carpe Jugulum adapted. Fairly light on the fantastical with good characters (and I'm a fan of the witches).

Actually, on second thought, this could suffer the same as Night Watch without back story on the witch dynamic. Forget it.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 21/1/2011 1:11:26 PM   
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Guards! Guards! wouldn't be too difficult to do properly, it's not too mad apart from the dragon obviously which they'd need to get right, how did the dragons look in Colour Of Magic? There are large chunks of the book without the dragon so it wouldn't be too bad on the budget.

Failing that, Men at Arms wouldn't be a bad starting off point for the Watch series, it's a relatively straight forward Whodunnit and also one of my favourites.

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