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RE: Best Pratchett book - 13/1/2010 1:01:47 PM   
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I think I've said it before but Night Watch is the best I've read.
I also think that the series is losing alot of it's humour. Monstrous Regiment, Going Postal, Making Money & Unseen Academicals - read them all but wasn't overly fussed for any of them.

Who said the witches suck? Witches Abroad, Carpe Jugulum & Makserade are all great books.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 17/1/2010 5:00:51 PM   
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I love Pratchett, but I honestly think his best one was written in partnership.

Good Omens remains one of the best laugh out loud books ever.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 17/1/2010 5:48:04 PM   
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I haven't read anything by him in a while, but of those I've read; The Truth was always one of my favourites.

And yes Good Omens was excellent.


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RE: Best Pratchett book - 17/1/2010 11:05:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chief

I also think that the series is losing alot of it's humour. Monstrous Regiment, Going Postal, Making Money & Unseen Academicals - read them all but wasn't overly fussed for any of them.



Monstrous Regiment has grown on me - the 'socks' gag seems to have gotten funnier with time. I've also enjoyed Going Postal more on a re-read and am trying to gently persuade a friend to return my copy of Making Money so I can give that another go - I suspect that post-credit crunch it'll read very differently.

Unseen Academicals didn't really do it for me - I suspect football in-jokes went over my head. It's only when I was talking to a friend the other day that I suddenly got the 'brother Brutha' joke in Small Gods, 'cos I'd been mentally mis-pronouncing Brutha all these years!

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 25/1/2010 11:35:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Chief
Who said the witches suck? Witches Abroad, Carpe Jugulum & Makserade are all great books.

Lords and Ladies is actually my favourite Witches book. I love the bits with Jason and the Morris Men.

But they're all great, yeah. I like how Magrat matures as a character. By Carpe Jugulum she is so completely not the "Wet Hen" anymore.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 1/4/2010 3:34:33 PM   
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I'm so pleased to discover this thread. Pratchett has been one of my personal heroes since I first discovered him through Mort, which I bought as a freebie when I ordered Arthur C.Clarke's 2061 from the Encounters Book Club (later to become the SF & Fantasy Book Club - remember those?).

I cried laughing; it was almost as if I had found a kindred spirit in print. If I ever work out how to leave a signature thingy in here I'd seriously think of putting in "I don't know about you but I could murder a curry!" said by Death as he took on Mort as an apprentice.

From that moment I was hooked and I have every single Discworld novel in hardback. My preferred choices tend to gravitate around the Guards and Death but if I had to list them I would say:
Mort
Night Watch
Guards Guards!
Reaper Man
Men At Arms
Soul Music
Monstrous Regiment
The Amazing Maurice & His Educated Rodents
Going Postal
Thud

Good Omens also of course.

Sorry, can't make that list any smaller, I am simply a huge fan. It makes me that much sadder therefore to admit that some of his more recent books, whilst still completely enjoyable, do not quite manage to clear the bar that Terry himself has set so highly with his body of work.

A lot of this has to do with his illness; Terry has Alzheimer's. More frequent lapses in concentration as just one symptom of his failing health must make it incredibly difficult for the man to stay focussed. It wouldn't surprise me that assistants were even typing for him on occasion, the resulting changes in his creative processes unravelling the concentration. Unseen Academicals did make me laugh at moments but the ending sadly ran out of steam and deflated somewhat.

Terry was recently honoured as the subject of the annual BBC Richard Dimbleby Lecture. So worried that he would be unable to perform without his illness kicking in and messing him up, Terry asked Tony Robinson (surely the man born to play Nobby Nobbs; more on that later) to speak on his behalf from a prepared script while the man himself sat up on the platform beside the podium. The lecture was about Terry's life as a writer and also his support of voluntary euthanasea and the wish to end his own life on his own terms when he felt the time was right. I'm a grown man and I don't mind telling you there were a couple of tears by the end.

When that time comes our comfort in his passing will be the wealth of joy and happiness he left us all in his books. He is a genuinely kind, modest and warm man who has not let the bright lights blind him.

I met him once. I've never been one to ambulance chase celebrities but he came to our area during a nationwide booksigning tour for his latest book, Interesting Times. I couldn't resist. He was scheduled for 2 hours; he had been sat there for 6 when I finally found myself face to face with him and no sign of the queue, out the door and around the corner, diminishing anytime soon. I overheard him asking the people ahead of me who the three brand new copies were for. "All for me and I would like them all signing please, along with these other twelve other books of yours I bought while I was here, three copies of each of course..." replied one of the girls who for the 90 minutes I had been stood behind her had bleated on non-stop about every tiny little item of Pratchett fine detail minutei you could possibly imagine. "One to read, one to keep as a pristine copy for my collection and one spare, just in case. I always buy three brand new copies of each of your books," she continued.

To which he replied:

"Then you must be very very sad."

I howled inside but stifled it as she looked genuinely crestfallen. That said, he signed all 15 books, stamped them all with a special exclusive Unseen University rubber stamp, smiled and said "thank you" at the end and she left with a massive grin on her face.

As I approached his little desk I noticed him wincing and rubbing what must have been an extremely sore wrist underneath an athletic support for the lower arm. All that signing, hours of it. I asked him "Long day?" He looked up, exhausted but smiling nontheless and replied, "Why? You don't have 15 books as well do you?". I laughed and shook my head as he sighed in relief, no doubt noting the rest of the queue in the corner of his eye. Then I said to him "I don't mind if you don't sign it Terry, save it for the next one. It was a pleasure just to meet you."

He just sat there for a moment, smiling wider than just before. He asked me my name, I gave it. He signed my book, stamped it and gave both the book and the stamp to me. Then he reached over to a pile of T shirts the publishers had produced for the book signing, signed a shirt and gave that to me too. He turned to the shop staff and said "Don't charge him for that."

Thank YOU Terry. For everything.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 1/4/2010 3:52:36 PM   
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Oh, almost forgot since I was rambling there, the casting thing.

I did enjoy the adaptations of Hogfather and The Colour of Magic and they can both quite happily stand alone as good entertainment to the uninitiated but I can't help comparing to the books and how much is lost on the transfer. Happens a lot with Stephen King novels too. Anyway, some of the perfect casting that will probably never happen would be:

Philip Glenister as Sam Vimes
Maggie Smith as Granny Weatherwax
Tony Robinson as Nobby Nobbs
David Jason as Cut-Me-Own-Throat Dibbler (my favourite character).

All superb for the roles but far too close to already very strongly linked characters, which then makes the whole thing typecast and gimmicky and takes much away from the story they were never originally part of. Sam Vimes is too close to Gene Hunt, as is Nobbs to Baldrick and Dibbler to Del Boy. Besides, how many roles does he want anyway? And Maggie's appearances in Harry Potter will always be THE witch we know her for.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 29/4/2010 11:29:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: REALLYMAD

Oh, almost forgot since I was rambling there, the casting thing.

I did enjoy the adaptations of Hogfather and The Colour of Magic and they can both quite happily stand alone as good entertainment to the uninitiated but I can't help comparing to the books and how much is lost on the transfer. Happens a lot with Stephen King novels too. Anyway, some of the perfect casting that will probably never happen would be:

Philip Glenister as Sam Vimes
Maggie Smith as Granny Weatherwax
Tony Robinson as Nobby Nobbs
David Jason as Cut-Me-Own-Throat Dibbler (my favourite character).

All superb for the roles but far too close to already very strongly linked characters, which then makes the whole thing typecast and gimmicky and takes much away from the story they were never originally part of. Sam Vimes is too close to Gene Hunt, as is Nobbs to Baldrick and Dibbler to Del Boy. Besides, how many roles does he want anyway? And Maggie's appearances in Harry Potter will always be THE witch we know her for.


One thing about the adaption though is how they've discover not just one, but two, perfect actors for Vetinari!  That also goes for Death.


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RE: Best Pratchett book - 23/5/2010 8:20:28 PM   
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RE: Best Pratchett book - 18/8/2010 4:25:03 PM   
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I'm reading Small Gods at the moment actually.

Just to let you know that

"I shall wear midnight" is out on 2nd September. I thought it was the 1st, but 2nd will do just as well!


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RE: Best Pratchett book - 27/8/2010 12:51:53 PM   
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The Guards have always been my favourites. I'd probably go for Guards! Guards! Closely followed by Night Watch.

I re-read Guards! Guards! and Men at arms last week and loved them just as much as the first time. I was going to start Feet of Clay this morning but decided to take a break from the guards and went with Colour of Magic. I'm enjoying it but I have to say not as much as when I was younger. Hope it clicks with me soon, I used to really like the Rincewind books.

On a side note, I also started re-playing the old Discworld game from the 90's last week. Eric Idle is great, I would have loved to see him as Rincewind in the TV adaptation of CoM instead of David Jason.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 19/9/2010 11:45:33 PM   
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Love Terry Pratchett!!!! My favourite books are the Guards series plus anything that has Nanny Ogg in it - hilarious!  But my all time favourite characters have to be Detritus, Nobby and Carrot



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RE: Best Pratchett book - 9/10/2010 4:39:24 PM   
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What a lovely story earlier about meeting Terry P by Reallymad. Good for you, and good for him.
As we're on faves, The Light Fantastic was my first (before I realised that The Colour of Magic came before, doh!) and so has a special place in my heart. Introducing me to Rincewind and the luggage is a special moment. I own a second hand bookshop and love to recommend his books to young 'uns (I'm 34). Apart from that, I would say Sourcery (come one, wizard wars for frikks sake!), Mort (Death is one of the greatest characters by far.....he loves curry and cats for heavens sake), Equal Rites (for giving us Granny, Og and Magrat), Guards Guards (giving us Vimes and Carrot, Nobbs and co) and Small Gods (Cohen the Barbarian? genius). I suppose that makes me a fan of his early stuff. Good Omens deserves a place there as it made a great impression on me (who can forget the tape player in Crowley's car or the dog who was slightly more than just 'dog')
Everything he has done is genius and I was very pleased to read that Rincewind is staying out of trouble in UU in Unseen Academicals. Although I wouldn't mind him taking a trip. Avec baggage.
I will need some time to work out who could play who. Saying Ian McKellan is a bit of a cop out for Ridcully. How about David Tennant for Rincewind?
Bless TP and us Pratchett lovers, everyone of us.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 21/10/2010 2:08:00 PM   
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The reply to BQ and Sharkboy

I completely agree the earlier books should be read - but, equally, to fully understand the relationship with Granny Weatherwax and the character of Nanny Ogg, particularly what witchery actually is there, I think that should go back to reading the first witch books. It added so much more to the first Tiffany book to know that. And then - couldn't you also say you shouldn't read it without reading one particular other book from the series? (Which, oddly, I'd been talking about how oddly it fitted in the series only a week or so before Midnight came out )


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RE: Best Pratchett book - 21/10/2010 2:18:28 PM   
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What is this Midnight book you speak of? Do tell......and me with a bookshop too, tsk tsk

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 21/10/2010 2:45:30 PM   
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I Shall Wear Midnight - the new Tiffany Aching book.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 21/10/2010 3:48:37 PM   
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I Shall Wear Midnight - the new Tiffany Aching book.


So which order are the Tiffany Aching books in?
I have Wintersmith and another one - possibly The Nac Mac Feagle (if that's a book) but I don't have have the new one yet. I'd quite like to read them in order as I have managed to read pretty much every other character out of order apart from Moist Von Lipwig


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RE: Best Pratchett book - 21/10/2010 3:54:30 PM   
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Just seen the message left by sharkboy

Thanks for that!


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RE: Best Pratchett book - 21/10/2010 3:56:56 PM   
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It's The Wee Free Men, then A Hat Full of Sky, then Wintersmith and finally I Shall Wear Midnight.

If, on the other hand you want to take up elab's suggestion and read up on the witches of Discworld, and Granny Weatherwax in particular, it is a much longer list - Equal Rites; Wyrd Sisters; Witches Abroad; Lords and Ladies; Maskerade and Carpe Jugulum, with peripheral activities in other books.  In fact, given the appearance of certain characters in the latest book, Equal Rites might be a good read before starting I Shall Wear Midnight. 

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 21/10/2010 4:18:27 PM   
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You could also go the whole hog for characters in Midnight and do the Watch as well - although I'm guessing from your comment, BQ, you've read a good chunk if not all of the other books? (Where you mention you read the characters out of order )

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 27/10/2010 11:11:36 AM   
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I can't believe I Shall Wear Midnight has slipped under my radar.

I've had a bit of a hiatus from reading and this looks just the thing to get me back into it.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 27/10/2010 5:05:04 PM   
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Just finished Equal Rites at the weekend, wasn't a fan of the witches when I was a kid, loved Equal Rites this time around. Started Mort yesterday, Brilliant!

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 30/10/2010 10:26:29 PM   
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Great thread! I think Terry Prachett is a genious! My favorites Terry Prachett books are Pyramids, Moving Pictures, Good Omens, The Last Containant, Wee Free Men, Nation and Jingo. I'm currently reading Thud and I'm enjoying it  

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 22/11/2010 4:12:31 PM   
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Currently re-reading Thud! I'd forgotten how good it was.

I've also got I Shall Wear Midnight sitting for when I finish it.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 22/11/2010 4:18:18 PM   
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I think Mort is probably up there for me as it was the first one I ever read of his. I've only read a handful and they've all been good but I do remember Mort really making me laugh out loud.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 22/11/2010 4:27:02 PM   
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I think Mort is probably up there for me as it was the first one I ever read of his. I've only read a handful and they've all been good but I do remember Mort really making me laugh out loud.


Mort was really good. I suggest get cracking and read the rest!

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 22/11/2010 4:53:45 PM   
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I think Mort is probably up there for me as it was the first one I ever read of his. I've only read a handful and they've all been good but I do remember Mort really making me laugh out loud.


Mort was really good. I suggest get cracking and read the rest!



Which is what I'm doing at the moment. I had read maybe 20 of the Discworld books and decided to start from the start again and fill in the ones that I had skipped.
Mort is fantastic, currently my favourite though Guards! Guards! had always been before.

I'm picking up the ones that I've missed as I go along but I haven't always been able to find copies with the original Josh Kirby cover illustrations. The new covers are nice but I prefer the old ones and would like to have them all matching, tis a shame.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 7/12/2010 12:47:59 PM   
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Just finished I Shall Wear Midnight. Thought it was really good. Wouldn't say it was a children's book at all.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 7/12/2010 2:30:45 PM   
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Reaper Man.
Guards Guards and Men at Arms.  I've actually read these two a lot, I can't really remember which is which!

Not a fan of the Witches though.

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RE: Best Pratchett book - 7/12/2010 4:03:26 PM   
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It's been absolutely ages since I reread Reaper Man - must amend that.

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