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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 8:42:41 PM   
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 Definitely stronger than I thought it would be, given some reviews.

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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 11:45:09 PM   
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 Ok so I watched it just now and throughly enjoyed it, love the main three and thought there was a nice balance between drama and comedy, didn't really warm to the two bad guys but none the less thought it was really good and it will defo be recording it next week. (can't watch it live as it clashes with Lost and Supernatural )

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RE: Being Human - 29/1/2009 2:12:16 PM   
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 I record Supernatural and watch Being Human live.  And can't watch Lost as I don't have Sky....Dammit. Currently back in the past watching season 4 on DVD!
 
Anyhoo, anyone know what song is playing over the opening titles of Being Human? Piano-led song, I've got it stuck in my head and no idea who it's by or what it's called...

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RE: Being Human - 29/1/2009 2:17:35 PM   
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Anyhoo, anyone know what song is playing over the opening titles of Being Human? Piano-led song, I've got it stuck in my head and no idea who it's by or what it's called...

No idea.

I was impressed with the music in the show.
Arctic Monkeys - When the Sun Goes Down - when George was looking for somewhere to change.
Eels - no idea what song but it mentioned ghosts.
Johnny Cash - Hurt.

All top stuff.


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RE: Being Human - 29/1/2009 2:23:12 PM   
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 I was very sceptical of this so didn't watch it on Sunday but I'll give it a go tonight from iPlayer...also a massive Buffy fan so is it really worthy of the same breath?

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RE: Being Human - 29/1/2009 2:25:26 PM   
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Eels - no idea what song but it mentioned ghosts.


Eels - 'Friendly Ghost' from the album Souljacker.

quote:


Johnny Cash - Hurt.


Cash's cover of the Nine Inch Nails song (there's also an amazing live version sung by Trent Reznor and David Bowie).
 
 
 
Well, that's my contribution to Geek-One-Up-Man-Ship - care to raise the bar..?

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RE: Being Human - 29/1/2009 3:11:57 PM   
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I was very sceptical of this so didn't watch it on Sunday but I'll give it a go tonight from iPlayer...also a massive Buffy fan so is it really worthy of the same breath?

Well not Buffy good, but it is really enjoyable and definitely has that vibe going on, I just hope it's popular enough to get a second season.

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RE: Being Human - 29/1/2009 3:40:04 PM   
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I was very sceptical of this so didn't watch it on Sunday but I'll give it a go tonight from iPlayer...also a massive Buffy fan so is it really worthy of the same breath?

Well not Buffy good, but it is really enjoyable and definitely has that vibe going on, I just hope it's popular enough to get a second season.


Do you not remember 'Never Kill A Boy on the First Date'?! This was definately as good as season one Buffy - the acting's certainly better across the board (see David Boreanez attempt to express emotion naturally and compare/contrast to Tovey's performance in BH ), it's got the pop-culture references, camraderie, banter, pathos...If the show continues to live up to its potential I think BH could be as good as Buffy.
 
Not better - I can't imagine a show better than Buffy.

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RE: Being Human - 29/1/2009 5:41:27 PM   
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Watched this just now on iplayer and really liked it. I didnt see the original pilot but I had a rough idea of what to expect. The premise put me in mind of Hex (the show on sky1) which was pretty dire despite having Jemima Rooper in it.

Suprisingly this worked really well. It had a much better script and the whole cast were pretty terrific, Tovey in particular showing his range at comedy and drama. (I liked the tea rant very much) Critchlow was good at Annie, though ghost who can touch things annoy me. The vampire guy was ok. Was just doing what these broody pretty boys do in these kinds of roles.

I loved seeing Jason Watkins in it! After seeing him in Funland, he really has weird down to a fine art.

Will be watching it again definitely.



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RE: Being Human - 29/1/2009 6:38:00 PM   
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 I was listening to an advert for this on the radio on the way home and was amazed at how similar the bloke playing the werewolf sounded like Harold Steptoe, only more wooden.

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RE: Being Human - 30/1/2009 9:33:31 AM   
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 I watched it on I-player last night and loved it.

I'm still laughing at "you smell all minty, like a polo, do you have a hole?"



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RE: Being Human - 30/1/2009 1:18:29 PM   
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I just watched the original pilot episode again (I discovered I'd never deleted it from my DVR box) - boy was that a good pilot!

I hope the new series manages to capture some more of that dramatic tension, as well as doing the comedy - nothing in the first episode matched George being stuck in the isolation room with his ex.

And I've forgotten - I need to re-watch the first episode, now - did they re-cast the part that Adrian Lester played? Because he was bloody brilliant!

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RE: Being Human - 30/1/2009 1:36:01 PM   
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I'm still laughing at "you smell all minty, like a polo, do you have a hole?"





It's their faces after George says that that really crack me up - just that frozen, gaping "did he really asys that?" shock.  And then Mitchell's, "See, I can actually talk to women, without weeping or setting fire to myself."
 
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And I've forgotten - I need to re-watch the first episode, now - did they re-cast the part that Adrian Lester played? Because he was bloody brilliant!


'fraid so - Herrick is now played by Jason Watkins. They wanted a more down-to-earth, grounded villain. I enjoyed Lester's performance but after watched the pilot then the first episode I've got to say I find Watkins a more believable villain.

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RE: Being Human - 30/1/2009 1:38:40 PM   
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I like the line Herrick gave - "you're a shark, be a shark." Thought that summed up vampires quite well.

Anyone else think that the ghost girl's boyfriend can't see her cos he actually killed her and she doesn't remember yet?

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RE: Being Human - 30/1/2009 2:08:23 PM   
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Anyone else think that the ghost girl's boyfriend can't see her cos he actually killed her and she doesn't remember yet?

I'm sure that he killed here. Don't know why. Maybe it's a bit too obvious so they won't go down that route.

The more I think about it, what does the ghost actually do? Apart from being invisible to a few people.


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RE: Being Human - 30/1/2009 3:03:29 PM   
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 She makes the tea. Make the tea, Magrat.
Yeah, I agree Annie's character is the weakest of the show - she should be walking through walls, appearing/disappearing, fade in and out, something, anything to make her a bit ghostly.
 
I also think the boyfriend (Owen?) killed her - thought so from the pilot where Annie said he'd gone to live in Saudi Arabia where his brother (brother-in-law?) lived. Maybe it was an accident and he pushed her but didn't mean to kill her or something. Still think it was him, though.

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RE: Being Human - 30/1/2009 3:14:30 PM   
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She makes the tea. Make the tea, Magrat.
Yeah, I agree Annie's character is the weakest of the show - she should be walking through walls, appearing/disappearing, fade in and out, something, anything to make her a bit ghostly.
 
I also think the boyfriend (Owen?) killed her - thought so from the pilot where Annie said he'd gone to live in Saudi Arabia where his brother (brother-in-law?) lived. Maybe it was an accident and he pushed her but didn't mean to kill her or something. Still think it was him, though.


It is Owen.  I thought that he had something to do with her death as well.

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RE: Being Human - 30/1/2009 7:47:23 PM   
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 For anyone interested this is being repeated on BBC 3 at 9pm tonight.

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RE: Being Human : Episode 2 - 1/2/2009 10:21:43 PM   
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 First thoughts on the latest episode: (spoilers)

Didn't enjoy it as much as last week. Needs more Mitchell.

Pros:
Great opening narration and transformation.
Vampire Snuff Porn? Now that is dark.
Glad to see George fighting back at the end.
The return of Lauren.

Cons:
It jumped forward a lot. I guess they just did that to get George to transform a lot but the other characters didn't do anything in that time.
It seemed to jump to some pretty big points in only the second episode. The kind of thing they would take an entire series to cover.
Not enough vampires.
Didn't like the other Werewolf. I knew he wasn't supposed to be likeable but I didn't enjoy watching him. It was also predictable that he was the one who converted George.
I thought the attempts at humour by introducing the neighbours were a bit lame.
Annie has a power! When she gets stressed she teleports - just like in Rentaghost.


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RE: Being Human - 1/2/2009 11:24:27 PM   
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 Before I comment on the show, I'll get a few things out of the way first...

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Yes it was the lovely & gorgeous Jack Davenport in Ultraviolet.

You can pick Ultraviolet the complete series up for about a tenner. Great show.



It's also worth mention that the show also features Idris Elba, who went on to much greater heights as the legendary Stringer Bell in The Wire.  And Ultraviolet was, for my money, the best take on the vampire mythos ever broadcast.

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Eels - 'Friendly Ghost' from the album Souljacker.


Shaunette, my respect-o-meter just went off the scale! Best band in the universe.

Now, on to the business in hand...

Having finally caught up with episode 1 last night on iPlayer, I really looked forward to the 2nd one tonight.  And while I still enjoyed it, it was a bit of a downturn after the 1st show.  I think the problem has been nailed elsewhere in the thread - not enough vampire action.  Lauren is becoming a right pain in the arse, and I'm really hoping that Herrik has to take drastic action soon.  Tully quickly became Dully and they might as well have called the episode "George meets the werewolf that turned him", it was that bloody obvious from the start.  Don't think that's the last we'll see of him either - i just hope they find more interesting things for him to do.  For some reason I expected him to transform into Liam Gallagher - must have been that stupid bloody hat and the cocky laddishness...

Annie is desperately underused, although I expect that to change when Owen is inevitably revealled as her killer (or maybe his new orange girlfriend?  Hmm...)

Still, it's the most promising British show I've seen in a long time and if nothing else, at least its something else on Beeb3 other than 3Pints of Bile and a Packet of Cliches.

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RE: Being Human - 2/2/2009 9:30:58 AM   
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 I understand that show/films with werewolves/vampires/ghosts and the like can make their own mythologies, but if Ghostie girl can put a hat on and make tea she can definitely change out of her 'death clothes' - or at least put something on top.  It's not like she'll get too hot or anything.

Otherwise this is a pretty good show and is so much better than a lot of stuff currently on tellybox.

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RE: Being Human - 2/2/2009 3:50:27 PM   
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 I've only caught Ep 1 so far, but I thought it looked promising and Ep 2 is now waiting on the Sky Box.

My only major gripe so far is that Herrik just seems too contemporary a character to have been born the the 1920's (assuming he was turned as a twenty something during WWII). The actor playing the part is decent enough in the role but I'm not really picking up an 'ageless dead' vibe from either him or the writing...(though to be fair that's a common complaint for modern vampires in fiction, including Angel).

I also hope that the writers get the rules of the world they have created properly locked down in terms of what different characters can and can't do. For me shows like this can often stand or fall on how much thought has been put into the back stories on offer. Good characters and lines are important but there has got to be consistency to the fantasy elements too...

I will watch with interest to see where they go with the show.

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RE: Being Human - 2/2/2009 3:57:31 PM   
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 I really liked episode 2 & all the werewolf stuff, Tully was really good especially towards the end when he quickly changed from an annoying character to a sympathetic one. Mitchell is a good character as is Herrick but vampires have been done to death, not sure what new this show can bring to that although the vamp porn was interesting & the hints at some kind of vampire v werewolf war are promising.

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RE: Being Human - 2/2/2009 8:16:44 PM   
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Just watched the second episode. Overall I enjoyed it but I did have some niggles.

Annie - seriously, you're a ghost. Tully really can't do anything to you. Though it's very clear now that Owen was abusive, so maybe her emotional overreaction was more to do with that than with him......oh, and he definitely killed her. I think the clothes thing is more of her not being able to let go, not a physical ghost 'rule'.

George - Everyone keeps commenting on how intelligent he is - so why is he being written like he's a complete idiot? Keeping a stash of clothes in the woods is hardly rocket science, it should have been the obvious thing to do from the start. Ditto buying a nice chunk of raw meat to chow down on when he's in wolf form.

Mitchell - actually, on reflection, no niggles with his character. I think the writers must have put the most effort into figuring out his storyline and building his character. But I did cringe at the Annie/Mitchell 'kiss' - do they have to create a love interest between them? Really? They'd beter do something interesting with it, if they're going to take it down that route.

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RE: Being Human - 2/2/2009 10:21:42 PM   
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 I have watched the first two now and I do like and I think it's got real potential to build into to something special but I do have a few minor gripes...George's manner of speaking is really annoying  me as he emphasises every 't' and he says 'what' a lot with that emphasisation and when he gets worked up and raises his voice I just don't think it sounds convincing.  I guess that they are really trying to polarise his human and wolf sides and I realise I am being overly picky but it's been annoying

Annie doesn't seem concerned about why she's still around as she would surely be talking and thinking about the night she died but I guess they're just filling the story out as if her death gets solved too early then she's not gonna be in it!  And she referred to herself as 'past tense' I'm sure that line was used in Buffy...

And shaunette I really don't see the Tovey thing!  Then I am a straight man but come on he's no Spike is here?

Edit:  Sorry just re-read your post and your fixation is Mitchell not George!  Now that I totally get!


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RE: Too Human - 2/2/2009 10:36:27 PM   
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I take back the backwater then - but still - Bristol, centre of the international vamp conspiracy?!


Clearly, you've never been to Bristol...

 


I'm loving your Mitchell Av Shaunette, he's gorgeous.
I wasn't too sure about it after watching the first episode, but after the second one I think it's brilliant.
It's filmed and the pink house they live in is just down the road from where I live. They closed off roads and we had to wait for them to finish filming before we could drive past.

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RE: Being Human - 3/2/2009 8:01:43 AM   
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And shaunette I really don't see the Tovey thing!  Then I am a straight man but come on he's no Spike is here?

Edit:  Sorry just re-read your post and your fixation is Mitchell not George!  Now that I totally get!



George's not bad actually - Tovey's clearly spent some time in the gym in preparation for being naked in virtually every episode! He doesn't have Mitchell's Spike-like magnetism but he does have a certain appeal.
He's not quite fanciable yet, though - they need to develop his character so he gets a bit stronger and stops whining. Tully was definitely right about that - confidence is everything.

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RE: Being Human - 4/2/2009 9:53:36 AM   
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 I wasn't as keen on the 2nd episode I found Tully really annoying and kept finding reasons to get up and walk away from the TV.  Annie was abused by Owen so I'm intrested in her reaction when she remembers. 

I didn't think that the writers were trying to create a love intrest between Mitchell and Annie I thought it was a kiss on the cheek that went wrong when someone turnt their head. 

I love Mitchell his almost taking over from Angel as my fav brooding Vampire. One question though, what is going on with the fingerless gloves he alway's wears? Oh and can someone please give Lauren a good hard slap or better yet a stake through the heart she is annoying.




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RE: Being Human - 4/2/2009 10:21:41 AM   
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One question though, what is goign on witht he fingerless gloves he alway's wears? Oh and can someone please give Lauren a good hard slap or better yet a stake through the heart she is annoying.




Wasn't Lauren also wearing fingerless gloves as well in one scene or two?  It must be a new vampire mythology thing.  May be it counteracts the sunlight as almost all vampy films n' telly things have a scene where a vamp's hand gets a bit smokey from sunlight contact.  Palms must be particularly susceptible.

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RE: Being Human - 4/2/2009 4:38:56 PM   
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 Got around to watching Ep 2 and have to say that after a promising start my response was very much 'meh'.

I will happily say that it has its moments (I especially liked George's ballsed up attempt to ask the nurse out) but as a whole it was less than satisfying. The decision to fit the whole 'Tully story' into one Ep rather than spreading it out and mixing it in with other plot strands just left it feeling rushed. By contrast, and despite events in the Ep occurring over a whole month, apparently nothing else of any real significance happened to any of the other main characters during that time apart from Lauren turning up at the house and then killing some anonymous sap. Yeah, right...

It would be far more satisfying if they followed multiple plot strands each episode rather than going for the 'and this week we focus on this character' approach that it looks like they'll be going with. Audiences aren't stupid (though it is on BBC3 so who knows) and the rest of the show is quite smartly written , so why not spread plot strands out over more than one ep and allow several subplots to run in parallel. I'm sure we could keep up, it would certainly make for a more compelling show and make events feel more logical. As it is there is too much forced dramatic coincidence on display (Lauren just happens to drop off the DVD just as the Tully subplot winds up. Convenient!!) rather that organic plot development.

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