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RE: Too Human - 21/2/2008 3:17:48 PM   
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I hope they ditch the Vampire sub plot or at least narrow it down and concentrate on the three leads simply getting on.


But that would just end up as a supernatural sit com, or maybe a supernatural soap opera, since there seemed to be angst than comedy.

I think shows like this need some kind of on-going story arc, to keep the momentum going and give the characters some interesting motivation. Plus, I was intrigued by the description of what the ghost saw after she died.....


True, it does need a sub plot/on-going story but the Vampire scenes were by far the weakest in the show and really were a cop-out as a plot device. That single scene about the 'corridor' afterlife outclassed all the vamp bullshit put together.

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RE: Too Human - 21/2/2008 3:43:00 PM   
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True, it does need a sub plot/on-going story but the Vampire scenes were by far the weakest in the show and really were a cop-out as a plot device. That single scene about the 'corridor' afterlife outclassed all the vamp bullshit put together.


I have a feeling that it will all turn out to be related, somehow.

And the vampire meeting to plan to take over the world wasn't the best bit, but I was intrigued by the history it hinted at, especially of the main vampire character (still can't remember his name). I wonder how old he is?

By the way, if you're into werewolf/vampire stull you should read some Carrie Vaughn, she has a really interesting take on it.

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RE: Too Human - 21/2/2008 6:49:32 PM   
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I take back the backwater then - but still - Bristol, centre of the international vamp conspiracy?!


Clearly, you've never been to Bristol...

 
I really, REALLY hope this gets picked up as a series, because it left me with so many questions I want answered!!
Like, Why did Herrick say "thanks" to Mitchell, and why did Mitchell get so angry about it?
The after-death-vision thing has lots of potential, too.
How long can Mitchell stay on the wagon? What happens to vampires if they stop drinking blood?
 
The vampires-take-over-world arc has problems, but there's got to be something wider going on to keep the story going, otherwise it's just Friends, with slightly odder friends.
 
Anyone know if there's any way we can put pressure on the Beeb to get this pilot made into a show?

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RE: Too Human - 21/2/2008 7:51:49 PM   
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I think they are trialing a few pilots on BBC3 over the next few weeks and seeing if they are successful before picking them up for a proper series. Though if as someone has mentioned that Phoo Action can get a series then this surely has too, right?

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RE: Too Human - 21/2/2008 9:09:02 PM   
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Yeah, I heard that -- just wondering how the BBC are planning to judge "successful"?

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RE: Too Human - 21/1/2009 12:48:31 PM   
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New series 6-part series starting on BBC3 this Sunday then - 9pm. Not the best scheduling in the world, seeing as the new series of Lost starts the same time on Sky1. Anywoo, it appears the entire cast (except the guy who plays George the werewolf) has changed and apparently the tone will be slightly different - more comedic and rooted, less gothic, hmmm. Also the pilot will not follow the series' canon.

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RE: Too Human - 21/1/2009 12:58:25 PM   
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I don't think we can call it a canon per se as this is a reworking - they've dropped the vampire sub-plot they were going to set up from the pilot.

Also - it is repeated 10.30pm on Monday. Although some of us won't be wasting our time on Lost, so it will normally be Sunday

Not this one though - there is an interesting looking Burns comedy on. And just think of the poor saps who also watch Supernatural - also starting Sunday at 9pm!

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RE: Too Human - 21/1/2009 1:03:49 PM   
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And just think of the poor saps who also watch Supernatural - also starting Sunday at 9pm!


Tell me about it! I thought Thursdays were going to be bad enough (thank god for +1s). I'll Sky+ Being Human later on Sunday night, repeated after 12 I think.

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RE: Too Human - 21/1/2009 1:06:38 PM   
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New series 6-part series starting on BBC3 this Sunday then - 9pm. Not the best scheduling in the world, seeing as the new series of Lost starts the same time on Sky1. Anywoo, it appears the entire cast (except the guy who plays George the werewolf) has changed and apparently the tone will be slightly different - more comedic and rooted, less gothic, hmmm. Also the pilot will not follow the series' canon.


Does anyone know why Russell Tovey is the only original cast member left in it?

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RE: Too Human - 21/1/2009 1:27:56 PM   
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As far as I'm aware they didn't have a hope in hell of keeping Riseborough - her star has shot far too high. Don't know why they changed the vampire, though - perhaps he wasn't interested in a series?

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RE: Too Human - 22/1/2009 1:38:00 PM   
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Well I'm glad to see they are giving this a crack at the whip - even if it does look like they're changing the tone, story and cast almost entirely...

I'm glad that Tovey will still be in it- thought he was brilliant in the pilot.

Fortunately I don't have scheduling conflicts, since I don't watch Lost or Supernatural!

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RE: Too Human - 22/1/2009 3:42:53 PM   
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I'm looking forward to this; this was by far the best of those pilots BBC3 did.

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RE: Too Human - 27/1/2009 10:26:42 PM   
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Well, I had my doubts - I loved Guy Flanagan as Mitchell Version 1.0 and was gutted they re-cast him; although very happy they got Her What Was Sugar In Sugar Shock as Annie the Ghost Mk 2, because I wasn't a big fan of Riseborough, rising star or no.
 
But NewMitchell has utterly won me over and I have developed a scarily involved obsession with him in a really short space of time.  The last time I got this fixated on a character was when Spike was introduced on Buffy. Ahh, fond memories...
 
Anyhoo, the vampires-revealed plot has potentially massive downsides, but I like the fact George is getting his time to shine next week and that Annie had more "ghostly" moments than in the pilot - where she may as well not have been a ghost at all after her introduction.
 
The acting was great, far as I'm concerned, and the script hit all the right notes - some fantastic laugh-out-loud moments and a really touching scene with George and Annie.
 
My only complaint (so far at least) is that BBC Three says this week's was the first of a six-part series. ONLY 6 EPISODES?!? Dammit, I'm going to need a lot more than that!

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RE: Too Human - 27/1/2009 10:35:48 PM   
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My only complaint (so far at least) is that BBC Three says this week's was the first of a six-part series. ONLY 6 EPISODES?!? Dammit, I'm going to need a lot more than that!

Yeah but most UK shows only have around 6 - 8 episodes per season so it's to be expected really.

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RE: Too Human - 27/1/2009 10:46:47 PM   
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Yeah but most UK shows only have around 6 - 8 episodes per season so it's to be expected really.


And yet the grindingly mediocre 'Demons' will probably roll on, revelling in its own tedium and godawful fight-choreography, for the rest of time. *sigh*
 
While my new Mitchell-fixation is honestly rivalling my long-standing Spike-fixation.

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Being Human - 28/1/2009 10:14:08 AM   
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I saw it this morning and I loved it. I kept thinking that this is the first British series in ages that can rival the current US output.

Great characters with the lots of potential. It's a shame if it's only going to be 6 episodes. I just hope they get a season 2 already, unlike Ultraviolet.

The only problem was I got a sense that there was quite a few things I missed as I didn't see the pilot - is it worth tracking down?

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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 10:57:33 AM   
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Great characters with the lots of potential. It's a shame if it's only going to be 6 episodes. I just hope they get a season 2 already, unlike Ultraviolet.


I remember that!! God, I loved that series; had some fantastic potential and I was really disappointed it sort of faded off-air and didn't get picked up for a second series. Might have to see if I can find it on DVD...
 
Anyhoo, the Being Human pilot was great - most of the actors have been re-cast, though. In fact only the vampire Seth and Russell Tovey as George are the same actors, so that might be a little weird - but it is worth tracking down. The first episode of the series has kept pretty much all of the plot-points of the pilot, and it opens with Mitchell's night with Lauren and establishes how they start seeing Annie, so if you can find it, it's definately worth watching.
 
....and if you do find it online can you let me know where? I'd like to see it again myself

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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 11:04:47 AM   
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Wasn't that fella from This Life and Pirates... Jack Davenport! (I remembered his name as I typed the sentence. I could have just deleted the sentence, but hey.) Wasn't Jack Davenport in Ultraviolet? I thought that was an ok series.

I missed the original pilot of Being Human but by the sounds of it, it's probably as well so I don't get confused by the minor changes. I thought it got the balance of humour and horror nicely and, as has been said, is like a British Buffy with 20-somethings instead of teens.


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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 11:20:49 AM   
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Great characters with the lots of potential. It's a shame if it's only going to be 6 episodes. I just hope they get a season 2 already, unlike Ultraviolet.


I remember that!! God, I loved that series; had some fantastic potential and I was really disappointed it sort of faded off-air and didn't get picked up for a second series. Might have to see if I can find it on DVD...

That's the one. Link. Apparently the writer "didn't know where to take it" which is why no more was made. Madness!

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Anyhoo, the Being Human pilot was great - most of the actors have been re-cast, though. In fact only the vampire Seth and Russell Tovey as George are the same actors, so that might be a little weird - but it is worth tracking down. The first episode of the series has kept pretty much all of the plot-points of the pilot, and it opens with Mitchell's night with Lauren and establishes how they start seeing Annie, so if you can find it, it's definately worth watching.


I did wonder if it had more to do with Mitchell and Lauren and how the three housemates actually met. The first episode did a good job of introducing the characters while indicating that there was history there - I just didn't know how much history was in the pilot.


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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 11:51:16 AM   
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Wasn't that fella from This Life and Pirates... Jack Davenport! (I remembered his name as I typed the sentence. I could have just deleted the sentence, but hey.) Wasn't Jack Davenport in Ultraviolet? I thought that was an ok series.


Yep, had Jack Davenport in it! And yeah, I rated him in it, too.

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I missed the original pilot of Being Human but by the sounds of it, it's probably as well so I don't get confused by the minor changes. I thought it got the balance of humour and horror nicely and, as has been said, is like a British Buffy with 20-somethings instead of teens.



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I did wonder if it had more to do with Mitchell and Lauren and how the three housemates actually met. The first episode did a good job of introducing the characters while indicating that there was history there - I just didn't know how much history was in the pilot.



The minor changes aren't confusing, and there's a bit you might need to know, so I can reccomend tracking it down online if you can. I've managed to find a few links to it - if I find a good one I'll get back to you!

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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 11:52:16 AM   
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I just saw this last night - thought it did a good job of re-capping background from the pilot and moving the story on. Though it does seem that one or two potential plotlines have been dropped, and new ones introduced instead.

I'm loving Tovey as George - but I hope the screeching gets toned down, I think that was a bit over the top. Other than that he does nervous and distraught beautifully. I'm looking forward to seeing more of him next week.

I did miss the quirkiness of the original ghost-woman from the pilot a bit, but I'm sure I'll get used to the new version.

I'd like to see more of the Vampire-lore being explained in subsequent episodes - obviously they're not your Buffy-style catch on fire in sunlight vamps.

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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 11:53:37 AM   
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Wasn't that fella from This Life and Pirates... Jack Davenport! (I remembered his name as I typed the sentence. I could have just deleted the sentence, but hey.) Wasn't Jack Davenport in Ultraviolet? I thought that was an ok series.

I missed the original pilot of Being Human but by the sounds of it, it's probably as well so I don't get confused by the minor changes. I thought it got the balance of humour and horror nicely and, as has been said, is like a British Buffy with 20-somethings instead of teens.



Yes it was the lovely & gorgeous Jack Davenport in Ultraviolet.

You can pick Ultraviolet the complete series up for about a tenner. Great show.

I missed Being Human as I had to choose between that and Supernatural.  Does anyone know if it is being repeated?

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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 11:56:00 AM   
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Wasn't that fella from This Life and Pirates... Jack Davenport! (I remembered his name as I typed the sentence. I could have just deleted the sentence, but hey.) Wasn't Jack Davenport in Ultraviolet? I thought that was an ok series.

I missed the original pilot of Being Human but by the sounds of it, it's probably as well so I don't get confused by the minor changes. I thought it got the balance of humour and horror nicely and, as has been said, is like a British Buffy with 20-somethings instead of teens.



Yes it was the lovely & gorgeous Jack Davenport in Ultraviolet.

You can pick Ultraviolet the complete series up for about a tenner. Great show.

I missed Being Human as I had to choose between that and Supernatural.  Does anyone know if it is being repeated?

It's available on iPlayer.


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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 11:57:42 AM   
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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 12:06:45 PM   
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Okey dokey, you can watch the pilot in sections at YouTube: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cy5ftKy2Qhw


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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 4:14:46 PM   
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Saw the first episode of the new series last night and I must say I was impressed. The effects were very good overall mind you the fully developed werewolf was a bit ropey. The story was good too and will be catching it again. Sunday nights though are such a nightmare now all the good stuff is on at the same time like Thursdays and then Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Saturdays theres nothing. Still gives me time to catch up! 

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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 4:50:23 PM   
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Saw the first episode of the new series last night and I must say I was impressed. The effects were very good overall mind you the fully developed werewolf was a bit ropey. The story was good too and will be catching it again. Sunday nights though are such a nightmare now all the good stuff is on at the same time like Thursdays and then Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Saturdays theres nothing. Still gives me time to catch up! 


It reminded me of the werewolves in Dog Soldiers and a bit of the Oz-wolf in the 'Phases' episode of Buffy (they changed the wolf's look after that. [/geek] ). I liked the eyes - they were really intense. The transformation itself was top of the pops - and even in An American Werewolf in London, the fully transformed wolf looks bollocks! I think it's the best we can expect on a television budget.
 
I re-watched the pilot episode earlier, and I have to say I am now more pleased than ever with the re-casting. Having the overall tone of the show as lighter than the pilot really works and Aidan Turner's Mitchell seems more believeable, less forced than Guy Flanagan's (still great) first version. The quality of acting has really improved, too, and I like the faster pacing of the first episode.

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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 5:22:32 PM   
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Saw the first episode of the new series last night and I must say I was impressed. The effects were very good overall mind you the fully developed werewolf was a bit ropey. The story was good too and will be catching it again. Sunday nights though are such a nightmare now all the good stuff is on at the same time like Thursdays and then Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Saturdays theres nothing. Still gives me time to catch up!


It reminded me of the werewolves in Dog Soldiers and a bit of the Oz-wolf in the 'Phases' episode of Buffy (they changed the wolf's look after that. [/geek] ). I liked the eyes - they were really intense. The transformation itself was top of the pops - and even in An American Werewolf in London, the fully transformed wolf looks bollocks! I think it's the best we can expect on a television budget.

I re-watched the pilot episode earlier, and I have to say I am now more pleased than ever with the re-casting. Having the overall tone of the show as lighter than the pilot really works and Aidan Turner's Mitchell seems more believeable, less forced than Guy Flanagan's (still great) first version. The quality of acting has really improved, too, and I like the faster pacing of the first episode.



I knew exactly what you meant when I was reading that, LOL, anyways my Dad recorded this and I'm quite intrigued to watch it actaully, you guys seems to all like, if Shaunette likes it, then thats good enough for me.

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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 5:45:29 PM   
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It reminded me of the werewolves in Dog Soldiers and a bit of the Oz-wolf in the 'Phases' episode of Buffy (they changed the wolf's look after that. [/geek] ).



I knew exactly what you meant when I was reading that, LOL, anyways my Dad recorded this and I'm quite intrigued to watch it actaully, you guys seems to all like, if Shaunette likes it, then thats good enough for me.


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RE: Being Human - 28/1/2009 7:08:19 PM   
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I'm a big Buffy fan and I give this show the big thumbs up. Definitely equal in quality to early Buffy with lots of potential. 

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