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RE: Rambo - 13/5/2008 3:28:08 PM   
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 Rambo lacks the fun of parts 2 and 3 and the thrills of First Blood. Yes, it's bloody (to be honest it wasnt very extreme), but it takes half the film to get anywhere entertaining and by the time a proper action scene appears it's not enough. A dull excuse for an action film.

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RE: Rambo - 13/5/2008 3:31:08 PM   
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Rambo lacks the fun of parts 2 and 3

War ain't supposed to be fun boy!!!

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RE: Rambo - 13/5/2008 3:34:46 PM   
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Rambo lacks the fun of parts 2 and 3

War ain't supposed to be fun boy!!!



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RE: Rambo - 13/5/2008 4:28:00 PM   
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Rambo lacks the fun of parts 2 and 3

War ain't supposed to be fun boy!!!





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RE: Rambo - 5/6/2008 8:04:04 AM   
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 Saw this last night and enjoyed it far more than I thought I would. Yes it was bloody and gorey and violent, but its a Rambo film, so it shouldn't be anything less.

So we could criticise certian aspects of it, like for me the most absurd bit, was when all the mercenaries were doing the long boat trek and you have the obligatory loud mouth cockney bloke, who kept calling Rambo, boat man  When really you don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to work out with a body like his, he's not going to be just a 'boat man'

Worth more than the two stars it was given.

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RE: Rambo - 5/6/2008 10:55:32 AM   
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 You've gotta be big man to be a boat man. Also, most special forces ops aren't hulks like that so, no, that observation maketh no sense, yo.

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RE: Rambo DVD review - 6/6/2008 4:57:05 PM   
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 Rambo getting a 2/5 is a crime of critiquery, no doubt about it, but at least Simon Crook's DVD review is elegantly written, funny and constructed rather than a foamy mouthed rabid splutter like the cinema review.

Empire - can't you swap the review over so Crook's is here instead? It'll do you proud. The line about a crate of melons falling from a plane was worthy of a salute.

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This ain't the Rambo I know and love! - 10/6/2008 11:26:04 PM   
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There is a very worrying trend happening in Hollywood.  They are taking our entertainment heroes and making sadistic, nasty, torturous and just plain bad movies with them (Casino Royale).  Stallone's Rocky Balboa was a wonderful antidote to the current cynicism of Hollywood. I am a fan of the Rambo series and of Sly Stallone so it is with deep disappointment that I must say that Stallone has fallen into this trap of cynicism.

Perhaps I would have liked this film better if it was called Sambo.  As a fan of the previous Rambo films I could not seen any connectivity with the character in this film and the character Stallone portrayed in the previous installments. In First Blood Rambo is very much an innocent child.  His transformation into a predator is striking because of that. Thoughout the series Rambo is a man who would never turn his back on a fellow man. Who would go above and beyond the call of duty to save his fellow man. In Rambo one of his first lines is "F**k the world". Hmm. At the end of Rambo III Rambo came full circle with himself and enjoyed his time fighting beside Trautman. What happened between that film and this to turn him into such a disgruntled, unlikable sog?

The violence is disgusting. I have a fairly strong stomach for this type of thing but I was turning away from the screen several times. This might have been effective in another film in another series, but I don't watch a Rambo film for this, much like I don't go to see a James Bond film to witness our hero getting his genitals turned into mince.

Rambo also contains one of the worst characters in the history of motion pictures.  In his first line he spouts more vulgarities than the entirety of the Rambo series had to this point. By the way, after this experience with mercenaries in RAMBO: FIRST BLOOD PART II do you think Rambo would team up with them again?

On the positive side, the scene where Rambo uses a claymore is a brilliant scene of action film-making. If only the film had more of that.

When I look at the Rambo series I see a set of films with nobility, bravery, courage, honour, hurt and damn fine entertainment. This latest film could barely be any further than that.

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RE: This ain't the Rambo I know and love! - 25/6/2008 10:43:32 AM   
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Just seen this on DVD. I am amazed that Empire only gave it 2 stars. What with this, and Rocky Balboa getting 3 (it deserved 4), and the distinct lack of features/covers on both - has Stallone done something to upset them??

Anyway, it was good to see an unashamedly 18 certificate action movie, not watering itself down in order to get a lower certificate and make more money. Simple but effective plotline, some attempt at political statement, and impressively realistic action. If some of these combat scenes had been done by  Speilberg or Peckinpah - people would have been applauding (they would have had to feature in a more 'worthy' film though! ).

I wish it had been 20 minutes longer though, because I was having a blast!

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RE: This ain't the Rambo I know and love! - 25/6/2008 10:58:08 AM   
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I saw it at the cinema and enjoyed it. There is a line said by Matthew Marsden that makes me cringe though:

"What say we go have a little look-sy"

Uurgh.

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RE: This ain't the Rambo I know and love! - 25/6/2008 11:04:54 AM   
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I saw it at the cinema and enjoyed it. There is a line said by Matthew Marsden that makes me cringe though:

"What say we go have a little look-sy"

Uurgh.


OK, I'll give you that!

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RE: Rambo - 25/6/2008 7:17:13 PM   
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 Just watched heard all the negative comments so was not expecting much but i thought it was great, really enjoyed it so have my mates from work what were people expecting.

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RE: Rambo - 25/6/2008 9:43:00 PM   
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 There just isnt enough action in this for a Rambo film.The film doesnt really get going until the claymore bit,then after a 5 min bulletfest,its all over.Its my least favourite of the series but its still a worthy addition to the canon.

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Rambo: A tribute - 21/7/2008 2:35:50 PM   
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 In the words of Louis walsh . . . " I liked it"

Thought it was a bit dull in places but not bad by any means. Quite a resonable end for a great character.

on another note. Check this shit out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJrdT6hn6io It's a musical tribute to rambo.  Brilliant.

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- 26/7/2008 11:38:15 PM   
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i loved it, it was mindless action at its very very best,

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There Will Be LOTS Of Blood...And Other Bits - 2/8/2008 11:15:42 PM   
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 I've given it 3 stars purely because of that absolutley amazing final 15 or so minutes. WOW!!! What a mini battle. Is there a better sight than John Rambo toting an 50 calibre machine turning everything into flying mince? who knows but after a pretty slow start with splashes of action it comes to life at this point.

A good, old school action flick.

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Soulless Cash In - 5/9/2008 9:16:32 AM   
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 First Blood was a winner because it had that 'innocent abroad' quality. It mixed sleepy town sensibilities with Government trained killing machine John Rambo. It was a commentary on rejected Viet vets who after sacrificing their souls felt unwanted by their own country. First Blood Part 2 and Rambo 3 focused solely on the action but still the films (at least First Blood part 2) could be read as a commentary on the times and the Reagan era. Rambo, however, reads only as a faded Hollywood star's desperate attempt to ingratiate himself with a newer, younger audience for the sake of celebrity and a quick buck and if that IS the commentary of our time then we are in very sad way indeed. The plot/story was non-existant. They might as well have just stuck Rambo in a jungle and have him blast Asians through the next 79 minutes. It would have been less insulting. The much reported gore was impressive in a kind of 'torture porn' kind of way but if I want torture porn I'll just watch Hostel. I was expecting more by way of character like we saw in First Blood and even Rocky Balboa. At the end of Rambo we see John returning to his native soil. If there is another sequel I only hope we see him back in action on American soil with some real bad guys. Perhaps the CEO's and corporate fat cats who put profits before emotional wellbeing that created the John Rambos of the world in the first place?

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KICKASS FILM THAT CAN'T BE MATCHED FOR VIOLENCE - 16/10/2008 10:43:20 PM   
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Enough said, Stallone can't act for shit but throws in some badass lines to make up for it with his rusty, deep and grumpy voice and the gore is OTC.

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- 26/12/2008 9:22:55 PM   
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No the real problem with Rambo is because it is a stupid, offensive and boring film, which has no idea politically what it thinks it was on about.

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Alright - 3/3/2009 4:17:36 PM   
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It was good, but don't treat it AS a Rambo movie...to compare it to First Blood is like comparing Futurama to the Simpsons...it's good enought though, with the final battle sequence leaving you expecting to be splattered with blood...I would have prefered to see it just with Stallone - why the sidekicks?? Still enjoyable, old school action. Good

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Alright - 3/3/2009 4:17:38 PM   
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It was good, but don't treat it AS a Rambo movie...to compare it to First Blood is like comparing Futurama to the Simpsons...it's good enought though, with the final battle sequence leaving you expecting to be splattered with blood...I would have prefered to see it just with Stallone - why the sidekicks?? Still enjoyable, old school action. Good

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Awesome - 5/9/2009 10:24:22 PM   
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 Best action film in years...did I say awesome.

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Rambo Rules!!! - 27/9/2009 1:02:58 PM   
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I grew up watching these old school action movies during the 90's like Terminator, Predator, Lethal Weapon and Die Hard. I had never seen Rambo before but when I saw this it blew my mind. Thank you Mr. Stallone for bringing back some old school action movies. Rambo is the best action movie ever!!!

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Rambo Rocks!!! - 27/9/2009 1:03:54 PM   
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So violent and so good I'd give it 5 stars again.

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Rambo Rocks!!! - 27/9/2009 1:03:54 PM   
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So violent and so good I'd give it 5 stars again.

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RE: This ain't the Rambo I know and love! - 2/10/2009 12:33:20 PM   
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There is a very worrying trend happening in Hollywood. They are taking our entertainment heroes and making sadistic, nasty, torturous and just plain bad movies with them (Casino Royale). Stallone's Rocky Balboa was a wonderful antidote to the current cynicism of Hollywood. I am a fan of the Rambo series and of Sly Stallone so it is with deep disappointment that I must say that Stallone has fallen into this trap of cynicism.

Perhaps I would have liked this film better if it was called Sambo. As a fan of the previous Rambo films I could not seen any connectivity with the character in this film and the character Stallone portrayed in the previous installments. In First Blood Rambo is very much an innocent child. His transformation into a predator is striking because of that. Thoughout the series Rambo is a man who would never turn his back on a fellow man. Who would go above and beyond the call of duty to save his fellow man. In Rambo one of his first lines is "F**k the world". Hmm. At the end of Rambo III Rambo came full circle with himself and enjoyed his time fighting beside Trautman. What happened between that film and this to turn him into such a disgruntled, unlikable sog?

The violence is disgusting. I have a fairly strong stomach for this type of thing but I was turning away from the screen several times. This might have been effective in another film in another series, but I don't watch a Rambo film for this, much like I don't go to see a James Bond film to witness our hero getting his genitals turned into mince.

Rambo also contains one of the worst characters in the history of motion pictures. In his first line he spouts more vulgarities than the entirety of the Rambo series had to this point. By the way, after this experience with mercenaries in RAMBO: FIRST BLOOD PART II do you think Rambo would team up with them again?

On the positive side, the scene where Rambo uses a claymore is a brilliant scene of action film-making. If only the film had more of that.

When I look at the Rambo series I see a set of films with nobility, bravery, courage, honour, hurt and damn fine entertainment. This latest film could barely be any further than that.


Shut up you girl! This is just the kind of proper action movie nobody's got the balls to make in hollywood any more just because they're shit scared of missing out on the PG-13 cashcow rating.

Well done Sly! Bring on the Expendables, Rambo 5 etc etc! Good old blood and guts action, the more the better!!!!

Oh, and the Claymore bit was the daftest bit in the whole film. It's an anti-personel mine not a sodding thermonuclear bomb!

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RE: This ain't the Rambo I know and love! - 2/10/2009 12:40:22 PM   
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Perhaps I would have liked this film better if it was called Sambo. 





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RE: This ain't the Rambo I know and love! - 2/10/2009 1:30:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: farewelandgodnight

quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut

There is a very worrying trend happening in Hollywood. They are taking our entertainment heroes and making sadistic, nasty, torturous and just plain bad movies with them (Casino Royale). Stallone's Rocky Balboa was a wonderful antidote to the current cynicism of Hollywood. I am a fan of the Rambo series and of Sly Stallone so it is with deep disappointment that I must say that Stallone has fallen into this trap of cynicism.

Perhaps I would have liked this film better if it was called Sambo. As a fan of the previous Rambo films I could not seen any connectivity with the character in this film and the character Stallone portrayed in the previous installments. In First Blood Rambo is very much an innocent child. His transformation into a predator is striking because of that. Thoughout the series Rambo is a man who would never turn his back on a fellow man. Who would go above and beyond the call of duty to save his fellow man. In Rambo one of his first lines is "F**k the world". Hmm. At the end of Rambo III Rambo came full circle with himself and enjoyed his time fighting beside Trautman. What happened between that film and this to turn him into such a disgruntled, unlikable sog?

The violence is disgusting. I have a fairly strong stomach for this type of thing but I was turning away from the screen several times. This might have been effective in another film in another series, but I don't watch a Rambo film for this, much like I don't go to see a James Bond film to witness our hero getting his genitals turned into mince.

Rambo also contains one of the worst characters in the history of motion pictures. In his first line he spouts more vulgarities than the entirety of the Rambo series had to this point. By the way, after this experience with mercenaries in RAMBO: FIRST BLOOD PART II do you think Rambo would team up with them again?

On the positive side, the scene where Rambo uses a claymore is a brilliant scene of action film-making. If only the film had more of that.

When I look at the Rambo series I see a set of films with nobility, bravery, courage, honour, hurt and damn fine entertainment. This latest film could barely be any further than that.


Shut up you girl! This is just the kind of proper action movie nobody's got the balls to make in hollywood any more just because they're shit scared of missing out on the PG-13 cashcow rating.

Well done Sly! Bring on the Expendables, Rambo 5 etc etc! Good old blood and guts action, the more the better!!!!

Oh, and the Claymore bit was the daftest bit in the whole film. It's an anti-personel mine not a sodding thermonuclear bomb!


Way to integrate so early on the forum dude

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RE: This ain't the Rambo I know and love! - 2/10/2009 7:29:11 PM   
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well I thoroughly enjoyed it, and recently traded my DVD copy for a Blue Ray copy

in Blue Ray it looks stunning, and I found the film had the right balance of story, character, emotional hook and sheer violence

the violence is certainly not gratuitous, its a very realistic depiction of war, many soldiers who have used .50 caliber weapons have commented on the accuracy of the rambo film

I absolutely love First Blood, and consider the Rambo film a worthy sequel (I'll give the 2nd and 3rd a miss) - the ending is fitting and very satisfying for the character

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RE: This ain't the Rambo I know and love! - 3/10/2009 8:05:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JIm R

quote:

ORIGINAL: farewelandgodnight

quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut

There is a very worrying trend happening in Hollywood. They are taking our entertainment heroes and making sadistic, nasty, torturous and just plain bad movies with them (Casino Royale). Stallone's Rocky Balboa was a wonderful antidote to the current cynicism of Hollywood. I am a fan of the Rambo series and of Sly Stallone so it is with deep disappointment that I must say that Stallone has fallen into this trap of cynicism.

Perhaps I would have liked this film better if it was called Sambo. As a fan of the previous Rambo films I could not seen any connectivity with the character in this film and the character Stallone portrayed in the previous installments. In First Blood Rambo is very much an innocent child. His transformation into a predator is striking because of that. Thoughout the series Rambo is a man who would never turn his back on a fellow man. Who would go above and beyond the call of duty to save his fellow man. In Rambo one of his first lines is "F**k the world". Hmm. At the end of Rambo III Rambo came full circle with himself and enjoyed his time fighting beside Trautman. What happened between that film and this to turn him into such a disgruntled, unlikable sog?

The violence is disgusting. I have a fairly strong stomach for this type of thing but I was turning away from the screen several times. This might have been effective in another film in another series, but I don't watch a Rambo film for this, much like I don't go to see a James Bond film to witness our hero getting his genitals turned into mince.

Rambo also contains one of the worst characters in the history of motion pictures. In his first line he spouts more vulgarities than the entirety of the Rambo series had to this point. By the way, after this experience with mercenaries in RAMBO: FIRST BLOOD PART II do you think Rambo would team up with them again?

On the positive side, the scene where Rambo uses a claymore is a brilliant scene of action film-making. If only the film had more of that.

When I look at the Rambo series I see a set of films with nobility, bravery, courage, honour, hurt and damn fine entertainment. This latest film could barely be any further than that.


Shut up you girl! This is just the kind of proper action movie nobody's got the balls to make in hollywood any more just because they're shit scared of missing out on the PG-13 cashcow rating.

Well done Sly! Bring on the Expendables, Rambo 5 etc etc! Good old blood and guts action, the more the better!!!!

Oh, and the Claymore bit was the daftest bit in the whole film. It's an anti-personel mine not a sodding thermonuclear bomb!


Way to integrate so early on the forum dude


Considering how hollywood has pussified it's action icons ( John McClane, The Terminator etc..), I suppose it was pretty refreshing to see someone go in the opposite direction, and totally amp up the psycho factor.

And Casino Royale was a damn masterpiece!

Rocky 6 was on it's arse though, can't understand the praise it got?

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