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Rambo - 22/1/2008 3:17:33 PM   
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Hang on a sec, - 22/1/2008 3:17:33 PM   
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http://media.movies.ign.com/media/041/041142/vid_2250734.html

That clip alone is worth five stars!

Still going to go see it.

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Grimbo - 22/1/2008 5:16:16 PM   
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Two stars? What a fucking pisser... still gonna go watch it mind...

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RE: Rambo - 22/1/2008 5:26:30 PM   
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Can't say, I'm not disappointed by Empire's review but I'm still going to go see. It's still one of the event films of the year for me.

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RE: Rambo - 22/1/2008 6:26:16 PM   
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Yeah, still going opening night. Think its going to be one of those films that will divide people, but after the redband trailer and hearing Stallone talk about it I am pretty excited for it.

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RE: Rambo - 22/1/2008 6:32:35 PM   
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I'll be there, despite this review. Hell I went to watch Hitman and AvP: Requim and they both recieved the one star treatment. When's this actually out?

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RE: Rambo - 23/1/2008 10:11:34 AM   
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I am a bit dubious about this review myself. Tears of the Sun, which is a decent action film with a similar premise, also received 2 stars. Any objective assessment would rate that 3 stars at least.

But the fact is that if Empire doesn't like the politics it won't get a decent review.

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RE: Rambo - 23/1/2008 10:18:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JagLover

I am a bit dubious about this review myself. Tears of the Sun, which is a decent action film with a similar premise, also received 2 stars. Any objective assessment would rate that 3 stars at least.

But the fact is that if Empire doesn't like the politics it won't get a decent review.


It my oh so humble opinion, the Director's Cut of Tears of the Sun is bordering on being a 4 star film but that's a debate for another thread.....

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RE: Rambo - 23/1/2008 10:56:54 AM   
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Won't stop me a jot going to see this film. Never trust Empire when it comes to a review of one of slys movies.

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RE: Rambo - 23/1/2008 5:20:52 PM   
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Won't stop me a jot going to see this film. Never trust Empire when it comes to a review of one of slys movies.
Same here.Lets face it,they never really liked the Rambo films anyway(two stars for First blood part 2?One of the best action movies of the eighties).So judging from this review,ill take it that the movie is actually very good.

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RE: Rambo - 23/1/2008 5:35:56 PM   
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The review's clumsily written as well, certainly not up to Empire's usually high standards. Can only assume it's a workie or some new freelancer who'd they'd not normally have commissioned but had exclusive access to the review.

Fucking hell, it's not out until the 22nd Feb, that's bloody ages to wait post reading a review of it...

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I don't trust this review - 23/1/2008 5:40:06 PM   
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Sorry Empire but you just called Rocky Balboa a triumph which you only rated 3 stars (not enough). And as for the lack of Sly's on-man army routine - isn't this from the same people who criticise the old ones for that reason?????

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RE: I don't trust this review - 23/1/2008 6:18:02 PM   
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Never heard of the reviewer and i must say im surprised empires reviewed it when its not out here for another month and as far as i can see no other reviews online from across the pond.and it opens there friday

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RE: I don't trust this review - 23/1/2008 7:00:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Porrohman

Never heard of the reviewer and i must say im surprised empires reviewed it when its not out here for another month and as far as i can see no other reviews online from across the pond.and it opens there friday


He did Catwomen and The Departed. My guess he's an American who sometimes gets first dabs on stuff and flogs it abroad.

This is one review Empire should lob into the trash can and get Olly or Dan to redo in two weeks times...

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RE: I don't trust this review - 23/1/2008 7:11:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DanCurley

quote:

ORIGINAL: Porrohman

Never heard of the reviewer and i must say im surprised empires reviewed it when its not out here for another month and as far as i can see no other reviews online from across the pond.and it opens there friday


He did Catwomen and The Departed. My guess he's an American who sometimes gets first dabs on stuff and flogs it abroad.

This is one review Empire should lob into the trash can and get Olly or Dan to redo in two weeks times...


I agree,Get someone familiar and cuddly to review it.

Seriously though, im pissed off, i really wanted this to get a good write up.

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RE: I don't trust this review - 23/1/2008 7:35:51 PM   
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Two stars? Oh, it'll probably be a really enoyable movie then.

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RE: I don't trust this review - 23/1/2008 8:04:31 PM   
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I agree,Get someone familiar and cuddly to review it.

Seriously though, im pissed off, i really wanted this to get a good write up.


Don't have to be cuddly (although familar helps), just not shit at reviewing. It reeks of workie. I dare not think what the raw copy was like, bet one of the subs is lying on a hospital bed foaming at the mouth demanding a week off to recover...

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- 24/1/2008 12:07:12 AM   
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Well,the reviewer HAS been with EMPIRE for a while(he reviewed Catwoman and The Departed),but....I don't think I can trust EMPIRE reviews any longer,considering the 5 stars it has just given to the crapfest that is Cloverfield!

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RE: Rambo - 24/1/2008 10:04:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JagLover

I am a bit dubious about this review myself. Tears of the Sun, which is a decent action film with a similar premise, also received 2 stars. Any objective assessment would rate that 3 stars at least.

But the fact is that if Empire doesn't like the politics it won't get a decent review.


Good point.

Still irks that Apocalypto, one of the most exciting, visceral and cinematic experiences of last year only got three stars, and didn't even make their best 25 films of 2007 list (when utter merde like The Fountain did.) I think it demonstrates that the film maker is also being reviewed.

It is the only explanation I can find for this glaring anomaly.

Remember The Pianist (2 stars) and even further back The Crying Game (2 stars)?

Oh, and how about Hostel II getting three stars when it is a no star no talent film?

Wasn't one of Empire's writing staff in this? It seems good reviews can be bought.

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RE: - 24/1/2008 11:27:28 AM   
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quote:

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Well,the reviewer HAS been with EMPIRE for a while(he reviewed Catwoman and The Departed)


Yeah, as the power of internet searching and rotten tomatory proves, but that this is his third review in all them years, he's clearly some last resort backup. His review is a load of shite.

I'm not sure pulling out a small handful of reviews of when Empire has gotten it wrong means anything. They review an unspeakable amount of films with so many different writers over such a long period of time... that someone gave The Crying Game 2/5 400 years ago has anything to do with their Rambo review is ludicrous.

The fact is that this review doesn't back up its arguments well enough. "Rambo doesn't lead the action, he commands a group of mercs which is wrong yadda-yadda" what the fuck you on about? Why is that bad? It reads and stinks like a kipper.

If it's to get a 2/5, then so be it. Shame, but shit films happen. But it's a shit review, so think I'll be scooting around a few more reviews closer to the release date...

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RE: Rambo - 24/1/2008 11:29:21 AM   
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Chud have rated the film 8.5/10.

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RE: Rambo - 24/1/2008 11:32:19 AM   
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Who's Chud? Don't they make locks?

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RE: Rambo - 24/1/2008 11:50:46 AM   
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RE: RE: - 24/1/2008 4:45:02 PM   
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SADovski is Empire's russian reviewer, he hates Rambo (& Rocky too).

I'll see this in cinemas AND buy the DVD!
And yes, Tears of the Sun DC is worth 3 stars!

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RE: RE: - 24/1/2008 4:49:59 PM   
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Don't blame him, Stallone's constanly wiping his backside on the Hammer & Sickle flag be it with a machine gun in Rambo III or with his dukes in Rocky IV...

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RE: RE: - 24/1/2008 5:10:33 PM   
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this is amazing, i cant believe someones gone to the trouble of counting all the details!

i guess that technically it is a minor spoiler tho, but that depends on your point of view more than anything. it doesnt say anything specifically, but more the overall details.

rambo death chart


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RE: Rambo - 24/1/2008 5:12:06 PM   
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i cant believe that my 5 star earning comment came from a comment on rambo.

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RE: Rambo - 24/1/2008 6:51:55 PM   
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There are a bunch of reviews for Rambo up on AICN.Pretty much all of them are highly positive.Most are raving about the absolute carnage delivered during the films last half hour!

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RE: RE: - 24/1/2008 11:01:41 PM   
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quote:

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this is amazing, i cant believe someones gone to the trouble of counting all the details!

i guess that technically it is a minor spoiler tho, but that depends on your point of view more than anything. it doesnt say anything specifically, but more the overall details.

rambo death chart




This is awesome! 5 stars!
SADovski check it out!

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RE: RE: - 25/1/2008 4:16:23 AM   
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Jobloreview is up here http://www.joblo.com/review-rambo 
9 out of 10. That's more like it! 

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