Breakneck
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Okay, took me two days to get back to a computer - at the very least I'm glad a debate has started instead of some of the happy clappy bullshit that's been going on. For the record, JJ Abrams is not a genius, he's a hack. Watch Mission Impossible 3. It's pants. So what though, since he didn't direct Cloverfield. Matt Reeves did. Sort of.
Middleburn to answer you specifically :
"Ok, so you'd prefer several supermodels sitting around debating the new Don Giovanni whilst a giant, rubber but still on-camera, monster who takes care to not knock down buildings and kill people walks around is shown Michael Bay style crane shot? Or something which represents people who are, well, real, and occaisionally annoying as real people have that annoying tendency to be."
Talk about missing the point - the point is there are NO ugly drunk people at the party. At all. They are all pretty little actors who know when to look at the camera and how to hit their mark. It's artifice, and in a film supposedly pretending to be from a realistic standpoint, ie using a camcorder, its obvious artifice. They do not represent the people I see at parties. That is to say, normal people who are not always articulate, and for a whom a camcorder means "piss off with that thing." And frankly I'd like a nice Michael Bay crane shot from time to time. Just an idea. And my point re : knocking over buildings is, I WANT people to die, i WANT to feel the terror, the sheer unpredictability of it. If the only people who die do so offscreen, or happen to be the brother of the pretty boy whose going after the pretty girl, it dosn't quite have the impact, does it ?
Hee hee : "Have you ever tried to comfort someone during grief? On that occaision you can't quite find the Shakespearean or, no doubt more to your taste, Truffautian*, words to try and offer your condolences. Thats reality there, same with the footage, the cameraman wasn't really placed well to take in a panoramic Steadicam tracking shot." Yes I have had to comfort someone whose brother has just been eaten by a giant sperm. And man did i spout some trouffouet and shakespeare. People ALWAYS find words to speak at these things because it is when we are at our most considered. They may not be shakespear, but we choose our words very carefully in these circumstances because we do not want to add to the hurt. Therefore, hey man sorry your brother's dead is a wanky, glib line. And the camera is constantly placed in such a position as to take in the most panoramic, cinematic views. Why else would the twat carry it across a fallen building ?
What in the name of god are you talking about ? Conspiracy theory ? Again, talk about missing the point - my point is that instead of humanising terrorism, utilising such specific footage creates a monster of it. That's all.
"You say the movie was all over the place, I think you are mate in your analysis of it (or was calling you mate not art-form enough for you? Am I too ugly to be allowed to do that?)" The movie is all over the place bud, sorry, it is. It has no tone, throws in scenes from Starship Troopers for some gung ho bally wack, then goes for some jolly ho glibness, and just for the sake of it whips in some Titanic romance tragedy. Shit, SOMETHING will stick with the kids so they'll pay money to come back again. Again - check that self loathing "mate," look at yourself in the mirror and say "i'm NOT too ugly, I'm NOT too ugly." They are all pretty. That is to say, they are photogenic. That's my point. It's not that i want toothless rubes, it's that I want people with a little bit more personality.
"Did you pay to see No Country For Old Men, ended up in the wrong screen but stayed put to avoid looking stupid?" Actually people walked out of the showing i was at. Should have joined them and gone to the pub.
"For the record I couldn't disagree more, it was one of the most immersive, terrifying and fantastic cinematic experiences I've ever had." Immersive ? Terrifying ? You must be able to put your head right into that screen my friend. Wish i had that talent. It's pants. Just as i have been accused of walking into the cinema all ready to hate, a lot of people seem to want to keep their head in the sand because they went in already loving it. Because after all - JJ Abrams is a genius. Actually, you know what? I think that might just be accurate after all.
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