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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 17/9/2010 2:08:19 PM   
gazpop


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 Hmmm. Very hard to express my opinion without fear of repetition. We shouldn't be talking up or down the ending as much as we are because after what we went through in the movie, the emotion and soul-searching S+S were asking us to do, the ride they took us on, there was never ever gonna be an easy way to finish it. After the tragedy/wonder of his life it was always leading up to show us the futility, the loneliness, the search for love that S+S managed to actually convey with how the film ended. I agree that maybe leaving him on the bottom of the sea for however long it takes for him to go fzzzttt might have been as acceptable, but with the ending we got, we were able to appreciate (OMG) 2000 years of solitude and questing/waiting for his mother (OMG, I'm gonna cry again, like an earlier poster) and also that he got his wish. And that his torture, whether he realised it or not, was finally about to be ended. The robots giving him this was a sweet irony in itself.
Sometimes in life, searching for something is what keeps hope alive. The realisation of something can be a real bummer.
So, in summary, Not Guilty. Not by a long shot. I think a lot of the haters just want everything spelled out for them. Guessing they didn't like Donnie Darko or Lost in Translation either.

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 18/9/2010 1:25:10 AM   
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I have a couple of issues with this film. Firstly the main thing that is on my mind is what was Kubrick's original vision for the film and did Speilberg's spin on it do the original vision justice? From watching other Kubrick films I imagine a Kubrick-Speilberg produced film may have been a lot darker and gritty. I don't know why but Teddy had Kubrick wrtten all over him!

My other issue was the ending. I think the term WTF is quite fitting here! Everything was fine, robot abandoned, community of unwanted robots hunted to be used in a series of events for the publics entertainment. Next thing we're under water and some aliens arrive and grant the wish of being with his mother for eternity. The whole ending just left me deflated.

they're not aliens

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 19/9/2010 9:03:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Miles Messervy 007


quote:

ORIGINAL: MarcE

I have a couple of issues with this film. Firstly the main thing that is on my mind is what was Kubrick's original vision for the film and did Speilberg's spin on it do the original vision justice? From watching other Kubrick films I imagine a Kubrick-Speilberg produced film may have been a lot darker and gritty. I don't know why but Teddy had Kubrick wrtten all over him!

My other issue was the ending. I think the term WTF is quite fitting here! Everything was fine, robot abandoned, community of unwanted robots hunted to be used in a series of events for the publics entertainment. Next thing we're under water and some aliens arrive and grant the wish of being with his mother for eternity. The whole ending just left me deflated.

they're not aliens


Also thats not what the ending is about at all.


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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 24/11/2010 11:30:36 AM   
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 it's a good film, but not great...and from the minds of those two legends, it should really have been incredible.

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 10/1/2011 8:31:33 PM   
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This is one of my favourite Sci-Fi films simply because...its brilliant on many levels and beautifully made with a story that stretches across time, with the demise of the human race

and I have no shame in admitting it makes me cry like a baby whenever I see the ending, where his Mother is revived for a day

incredible film, and so underrated

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 26/1/2011 4:07:25 PM   
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Not guilty. I'm a soppy old git but I love it despite it being an emotional watch. I never want it to end, the uncontrollable passing of time, yearning for that impossible magical wish and one moment with those already gone. The effects are superb, acting is great. And it has Teddy.

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 1/4/2011 7:07:35 AM   
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It's not my favourite film and I felt it ended just where it should have started, but I can't see it being guilty of crimes against cinema. So a not guilty.

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 19/10/2011 7:28:04 PM   
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It's the film that made me have faith in Spielberg again. It's also the very rare big budget science fiction film that is genuinely about ideas.

I'd say that anybody who says that the film should have ended with David buried under the ferries wheel, simply doesn't seem to understand what the film is about and the cruelly ironic pay off that's ahead. Like Pinocchio David yearns to be human, in this case so his mother can love him. This finally happens by the end when he is surrounded by hyper advanced robots and when he is the most human thing left on earth. The cruel irony of that is that he could only become the most human thing on earth by humanity itself having died out. The film is also a variation on Frankenstein and about the moral implication of man creating life and then deserting it. The idea to create a machine whose only function is to love, a love that doesn't fade and heal like human love, but one that is programmed to be never ending, so the creature will pursue the object of his affection literally to the end of the world, is powerful, sad, cruel, poetic and deeply scary. To get this, you really need David at the end of the world and you need all humans dead.

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 20/10/2011 1:26:16 AM   
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 Very well put Herr Schnitzel. 

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 20/10/2011 3:50:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Herr Schnitzel

It's the film that made me have faith in Spielberg again. It's also the very rare big budget science fiction film that is genuinely about ideas.

I'd say that anybody who says that the film should have ended with David buried under the ferries wheel, simply doesn't seem to understand what the film is about and the cruelly ironic pay off that's ahead. Like Pinocchio David yearns to be human, in this case so his mother can love him. This finally happens by the end when he is surrounded by hyper advanced robots and when he is the most human thing left on earth. The cruel irony of that is that he could only become the most human thing on earth by humanity itself having died out. The film is also a variation on Frankenstein and about the moral implication of man creating life and then deserting it. The idea to create a machine whose only function is to love, a love that doesn't fade and heal like human love, but one that is programmed to be never ending, so the creature will pursue the object of his affection literally to the end of the world, is powerful, sad, cruel, poetic and deeply scary. To get this, you really need David at the end of the world and you need all humans dead.


Spot on. Really well done with that summary.

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 27/10/2011 4:18:33 PM   
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 Not even close to guilty. It's a brilliant film from start to finish. I don't watch it that often because as well as being brilliant it's also totally heartbreaking and a film that stays with you for days after the viewing. Also - I loved the bitter-sweet ending and think it would've really detracted from the film had they ended it earlier (underwater as some people have mentioned).

Most definitely not guilty!

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 29/10/2011 11:33:53 PM   
Nexus Wookie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Miles Messervy 007


quote:

ORIGINAL: MarcE

I have a couple of issues with this film. Firstly the main thing that is on my mind is what was Kubrick's original vision for the film and did Speilberg's spin on it do the original vision justice? From watching other Kubrick films I imagine a Kubrick-Speilberg produced film may have been a lot darker and gritty. I don't know why but Teddy had Kubrick wrtten all over him!

My other issue was the ending. I think the term WTF is quite fitting here! Everything was fine, robot abandoned, community of unwanted robots hunted to be used in a series of events for the publics entertainment. Next thing we're under water and some aliens arrive and grant the wish of being with his mother for eternity. The whole ending just left me deflated.

they're not aliens


They sure as hell looked like aliens, esp. on my first viewing! The large head, slender bodies, telepathic link etc. Only when i watched it a second time did I go ''oh!! They're freakin' robots''!

A.I is a beautifully directed, achingly poignant, visually stunning piece of science fiction film-making from Steven Spielberg. It's design screams Kubrick, from the cold distant look and feel of the film via Janusz Kaminski's beautiful camera work and lighting, to the Man-hatten/ weeping lion set piece which is simply stunning, pure science fiction.

And the design of Rouge City, the shot of the Kubrickesque head where our protagonists go through (the 'aaahhh' scene!). And the ending? I too was puzzled by it. But it works. The ending IS Kubrick. A perfect love letter to Kubrick - one of cinema's greatest auteurs, by one of cinema's greatest living auteur.

Guilty? You must be joking!

A.I is an awesome, intelligent, thoughtful, moving, science fiction story telling at its most best!


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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 1/12/2011 10:49:46 AM   
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 The only thing this film is guilty of is putting shares of Kleenex through the roof. I don't know anyone who can make it all the way through to the credits without welling up at least once.

I honestly feel this film is an absolute masterpiece. It's visually incredible as well as having so much about it that makes you genuinely feel remorse. These are robots, you're not meant to feel anything towards them, but you do.

Despite owning it on DVD, I can't face watching it because I know exactly what reaction I will have.

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 2/12/2011 10:44:23 AM   
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 I think it's flawed, but has so many good things in it, I can't dimiss it completely.

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 8/12/2011 11:36:16 PM   
ArkadyKasei

 

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My first thought was guilty.
Its shot well, the acting is great, and the special effects are spot on, but all this emotion we are supposed to be feeling.....for a robot.....I dunno. It just felt empty to me.
After reading the above from Herr Schnitzel, I may have to watch it again to see if I can "lock in" to that emotion.
Maybe I'm just a heartless basterd.


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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 16/1/2012 10:58:37 PM   
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haley joel osment was great in it... and teddy was the bomb. 

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 24/1/2012 3:50:45 PM   
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Hmm,never had a problem with the film myself.
Sure its 'mushy' in alot of places and does play obvious in which characters to love and hate/deslike.
I thought the script was solid and the acting was of a high standard,especially with Jude Law who grew into the film.

Certaintly not Spielbergs worst,not by a long stretch.

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 2/2/2012 5:54:01 PM   
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 Not one of Spielberg's worst, no. Actually maybe one of his very best!! I must try to watch ET again to see if I feel anything like what I did when the whole village crammed into our living room to watch it on Betamax. I have heard people say it doesn't hold up. Will have to see.

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 18/2/2012 11:03:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: gazpop

Not one of Spielberg's worst, no. Actually maybe one of his very best!! I must try to watch ET again to see if I feel anything like what I did when the whole village crammed into our living room to watch it on Betamax. I have heard people say it doesn't hold up. Will have to see.


Those people don't know what they are talking about Gaz

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 18/2/2012 1:00:30 PM   
gazpop


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 They very rarely do Jimmer, they very rarely do. I'm really looking forward to a re-watch actually. My friend next to me is saying Super8 is basically the same. Hey ho.....

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 18/2/2012 1:26:38 PM   
JIm R

 

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They very rarely do Jimmer, they very rarely do. I'm really looking forward to a re-watch actually. My friend next to me is saying Super8 is basically the same. Hey ho.....


Super 8 is not the same, yes there are transversive elements engrained into the sub structure of the core, but the themes outlay beyond each other. S8 is a beautiful film in it's own right. JJ clearly benefitted from SS's views and input but as the extras indicate there is sound reason for that. Both briliant for different reasons.

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 19/2/2012 12:40:37 AM   
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 Sorry Jim, after Super 8 is not the same I got lost for that first sentence. Could you explain what you mean? I'm probably just being a bit thick.

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 19/2/2012 11:09:20 AM   
JIm R

 

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ORIGINAL: paul_ie86

Sorry Jim, after Super 8 is not the same I got lost for that first sentence. Could you explain what you mean? I'm probably just being a bit thick.


Similar themes, tacked from a different perspective

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 1/3/2012 1:38:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JIm R


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ORIGINAL: paul_ie86

Sorry Jim, after Super 8 is not the same I got lost for that first sentence. Could you explain what you mean? I'm probably just being a bit thick.


Similar themes, tacked from a different perspective


Jim, there's no use. You may as well be speaking to a mannequin.

"Awight Powle! On the 'ead saahn! Give it a one-two one-two!"

I actually haven't seen the film so perhaps I'm guilty. But doesn't it have loose similarities with "Bicentennial Man"?

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 1/3/2012 2:46:44 PM   
JIm R

 

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ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King


quote:

ORIGINAL: JIm R


quote:

ORIGINAL: paul_ie86

Sorry Jim, after Super 8 is not the same I got lost for that first sentence. Could you explain what you mean? I'm probably just being a bit thick.


Similar themes, tacked from a different perspective


Jim, there's no use. You may as well be speaking to a mannequin.

"Awight Powle! On the 'ead saahn! Give it a one-two a one-two!"

I actually haven't seen the film so perhaps I'm guilty. But doesn't it have loose similarities with "Bicentennial Man"?


No, thank heavens Em

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 1/3/2012 3:12:10 PM   
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 Forgive me, my 'memory' isn't what it used to be, I think it's corrupt.

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 18/3/2012 8:38:49 PM   
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beautiful film restored my faith in cinema after a dire 2001 not guilty

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 11/9/2012 1:57:23 PM   
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Not Guilty. Loved it, worthy of it's ***** Empire rating. As good as any Kubrick/Spielberg hybrid could hope to be. Bit of quality adult sci-fi.

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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 19/9/2012 6:18:18 PM   
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 Not guilty at all. One of the 'Bergs best. Visually stunning, beautiful and with strong performances by all.













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RE: A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 4/10/2012 3:41:46 AM   
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