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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 18/10/2012 2:57:20 PM   
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Much as I liked Jeff Buckley, Grace would've been a much better album without all those bloody cover versions.


I've never liked Lilac Wine. And Hallelujah is nowhere near the best on the album. Last Goodbye is beautiful. Along with Mojo Pin and Grace, those three songs really opened my eyes to music.


When I saw him live, far from being the revelatory moment I'd read about, Hallelujah went on for days and killed the atmosphere stone dead. Luckily he made up for it with the metal-tastic version of Eternal Life.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 18/10/2012 5:58:04 PM   
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Queen were overhyped and their songs were drivel.


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Lady Gaga is not a unique lil' genuis snowflake song writing artist. She's a douche who sellotapes tungsten screws to her eyelids and wears a pocorn thong to cover up the fact she's your basic disposable radio fodder.


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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 18/10/2012 6:11:25 PM   
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Queen were overhyped and their songs were drivel.

Lady Gaga is not a unique lil' genuis snowflake song writing artist. She's a douche who sellotapes tungsten screws to her eyelids and wears a pocorn thong to cover up the fact she's your basic disposable radio fodder.


Edgy.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 18/10/2012 7:13:26 PM   
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Queen were overhyped and their songs were drivel.

Lady Gaga is not a unique lil' genuis snowflake song writing artist. She's a douche who sellotapes tungsten screws to her eyelids and wears a pocorn thong to cover up the fact she's your basic disposable radio fodder.


Edgy.

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Great stuff. Not cool at all, I'm a never will be anything internet guy expressing an unpopular music opinion.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 20/10/2012 10:18:22 PM   
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 I didnt like Federico Colli's rendition of The emperor that much, excluding the bum notes, it was a tad robotic.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 21/10/2012 1:10:21 PM   
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 I really find it funny when people have a pop at Lady Gaga for being shallow while slagging off what she wears.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 21/10/2012 7:58:10 PM   
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I really find it funny when people have a pop at Lady Gaga for being shallow while slagging off what she wears.


I didn't call her shallow.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 21/10/2012 9:01:09 PM   
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 I didn't say I was talking to you specifically, although she's only as "basic and disposable" as any of the best pop music ever

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 23/10/2012 12:40:40 PM   
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 They've been mentioned a few times in this thread already, but Abba.

Not so much the songs (although I'm not massively keen there either, having had Abba Gold played at me on endless rotation when I were a nipper), but it REALLY annoys me (especially since Mamma Mia [film and stage show]) how everyone bangs on about how complex and intricate the songs are. They may well be complex and intricate compared with pretty much anything in the charts today, but as a bit of a muso who has a long association with prog rock, jazz, modern classical and the like, I find that statement laughable and offensive.

...maybe "offensive" is over-egging it a bit...

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 23/10/2012 12:58:03 PM   
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They've been mentioned a few times in this thread already, but Abba.

Not so much the songs (although I'm not massively keen there either, having had Abba Gold played at me on endless rotation when I were a nipper), but it REALLY annoys me (especially since Mamma Mia [film and stage show]) how everyone bangs on about how complex and intricate the songs are. They may well be complex and intricate compared with pretty much anything in the charts today, but as a bit of a muso who has a long association with prog rock, jazz, modern classical and the like, I find that statement laughable and offensive.

...maybe "offensive" is over-egging it a bit...


But the point *is* that the songs are intricate within a pop context. It's much harder to pull off music that combines structural complexity with a strong melodic sense, which is why The Beatles (for example) are still considered one of the greatest bands of all time while Yes (for example) are a bunch of noodly bores.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 23/10/2012 1:09:23 PM   
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But the point *is* that the songs are intricate within a pop context. It's much harder to pull off music that combines structural complexity with a strong melodic sense, which is why The Beatles (for example) are still considered one of the greatest bands of all time while Yes (for example) are a bunch of noodly bores.


I still don't buy it - I'm not so much talking about comparisons to a mid 70s Yes double concept album. There are plenty of examples of much more complex popular music that was in the charts before, during and after Abba's existence (just as a very good example, pretty much all the chart stuff that Talk Talk did), but Abba seem to be the only example that people talk about, presumably cos of the sheer number of sales over the years (granted). Still annoys me, though, and I'm still not convinced that they are/were all that intricate in a pop context.


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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 23/10/2012 10:37:08 PM   
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The Rolling Stones are selling tickets that are upwards of £100, yet they haven't written a song that is worth a scrap of fuck for the best part of 20 years... and they all look like The Walking Dead!

I say that this an unpopular opinion because there's a shitload of Muppets who are gonna max out their credit cards because 'you gotta see the Stones...'

Take a deep breath and repeat after me... 'the stones are shit...'

Don't you feel better now?



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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 24/10/2012 12:48:24 PM   
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The Rolling Stones are selling tickets that are upwards of £100, yet they haven't written a song that is worth a scrap of fuck for the best part of 20 years... and they all look like The Walking Dead!

I say that this an unpopular opinion because there's a shitload of Muppets who are gonna max out their credit cards because 'you gotta see the Stones...'

Take a deep breath and repeat after me... 'the stones are shit...'

Don't you feel better now?


I completely agree with the bit in bold, ten times over, but I think they're still a great live band and, for their age, their shows put a lot of others (both young and old acts) to shame.

I also agree about ticket prices, but for me that's more of a general concert-going gripe than a specific Stones related annoyance.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 28/10/2012 10:13:14 PM   
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The Rolling Stones are selling tickets that are upwards of £100, yet they haven't written a song that is worth a scrap of fuck for the best part of 20 years... and they all look like The Walking Dead!

I say that this an unpopular opinion because there's a shitload of Muppets who are gonna max out their credit cards because 'you gotta see the Stones...'

I meant to say that they havent done a good song in 30 years...

But I digress. If you love to see The Stones, no matter how much you have to pay, then God bless you, hope you have a great night.

I'm just thinking about Bowie, who's quite happy with his life, living with his beautiful wife and daughter in New York and knowing that he's made his mark and his money and isn't about to go titting about on a stage just to make a few extra quid...

It's called DIGNITY and the Stones couldn't even spell that...

Take a deep breath and repeat after me... 'the stones are shit...'

Don't you feel better now?


I completely agree with the bit in bold, ten times over, but I think they're still a great live band and, for their age, their shows put a lot of others (both young and old acts) to shame.

I also agree about ticket prices, but for me that's more of a general concert-going gripe than a specific Stones related annoyance.



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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 28/10/2012 10:16:52 PM   
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Just tried to post an answer and it ended up wound up in the previous response..? Whatever, that's what I mean...

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 28/10/2012 10:44:49 PM   
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Would much rather ABBA do another tour than The Rolling Stones.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 5/12/2012 7:05:30 AM   
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 Love Kraft is the greatest and most beautiful SFA album.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 5/12/2012 9:53:37 AM   
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 Love Kraft is great, but I have to be obvious and go with Radiator for their best album. (I'd go with Mwng as their most underrated album, just cos it's in Welsh.) I love all their albums anyway, so it's all good really. I even love Hey Venus.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 5/12/2012 10:03:49 AM   
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 I think Rings Around the World is there best album with Radiator coming second.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 5/12/2012 10:05:57 AM   
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Love Kraft is great, but I have to be obvious and go with Radiator for their best album. (I'd go with Mwng as their most underrated album, just cos it's in Welsh.) I love all their albums anyway, so it's all good really. I even love Hey Venus.


Yeah Mwng is a great album (it's even better when you can understand the dialogue ) but I'm gonna be mr. obvious as well and go for Radiator as their best album.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 6/12/2012 11:34:07 AM   
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 Radiator and Geurilla were always my firm favourites but, to my shame, I never really listened to Love Kraft much when it came out - other than Laser Beam nowt in particular stood out then I got sidetracked by other records and kind of forgot to give it a proper listen. Anyway, having re-visited their entire back catalogue recently, I realised what a cloth-eared fool I was - I can't get enough of the soulful, introspective Baccarach-tastic likes of Walk You Home, Cloudberries, Atomik Lust and (album highligh) Frequency.
Radiator does take some beating, mind. The second time I saw them live was a few weeks after it came out and they played virtually the whole record (as well as most of Fuzzy Logic too. Joyous)

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 7/1/2013 5:32:31 PM   
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I'm a Beyonce fan and I accept that she most probably does hardly any writing on her songs despite getting credit for it - amongst her fans, this is opinion is extremely unpopular! I think it is very much a case of 'Change a word, get a third.'

On a side note but still related, I don't particularly care either way if a singer writes their own songs or not.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 7/1/2013 5:51:07 PM   
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Radiator and Geurilla were always my firm favourites but, to my shame, I never really listened to Love Kraft much when it came out - other than Laser Beam nowt in particular stood out then I got sidetracked by other records and kind of forgot to give it a proper listen. Anyway, having re-visited their entire back catalogue recently, I realised what a cloth-eared fool I was - I can't get enough of the soulful, introspective Baccarach-tastic likes of Walk You Home, Cloudberries, Atomik Lust and (album highligh) Frequency.
Radiator does take some beating, mind. The second time I saw them live was a few weeks after it came out and they played virtually the whole record (as well as most of Fuzzy Logic too. Joyous)



Out of interest have you heard any of the pre SFA stuff at all?

I still have a copy of the 2nd and 3rd Ffa Coffi Pawb (an inspired name) albums (Clymhalio and Hei Vidal!) but they're on tape and I haven't owned a cassette player for about 10 years. I remember really liking them both back in the day and I'd be interested to see how they hold up these days.

I'm guessing that the probability of you having heard them are pretty slim though. They were pretty much a local band (Gruff was born in South Wales but went to school a few miles up the road from me) playing mainly Welsh songs. They were massive in the Welsh music scene but I have no idea how much exposure, if any, they had outside of Wales.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 8/1/2013 12:47:29 PM   
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 Nah, I was aware they'd done other stuff but never heard any of it. Though one of my mates had a demo by one of Gruff Rhys's former bands that he'd bought at a gig in about 1993 so I'm guessing that was the same group. Ordinarily I'd have asked for a listen but he used to smugly bring it up every time anyone mentioned SFA so I would always refuse to entertain him and swiftly change the subject. Ah, I miss being a teenager.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 8/1/2013 12:57:49 PM   
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 Chinese Democracy by Guns N' Roses may have taken too long to make, but it's also an under-appreciated gem that is judged more for who isn't playing on it than for its actual music.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 8/1/2013 4:44:58 PM   
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You can't really blame people for judging it by who isn't playing on it because he kept the name. Had the band been called Axl Rose & The Nobodies people would have said "you know, this aint bad".

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 8/1/2013 4:53:28 PM   
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 Even Slash and Duff would have struggled to polish that monumental turd.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 8/1/2013 4:59:01 PM   
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You can't really blame people for judging it by who isn't playing on it because he kept the name. Had the band been called Axl Rose & The Nobodies people would have said "you know, this aint bad".


Maybe. I don't see the point in getting bogged down in the politics and the who did what to who, and who is and isn't playing, and what the band is called. I just enjoy what I've got... which is quite a bit considering there are now at least three bands that I'm a fan of touring and (sometimes) releasing new music where there used to be one.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 2/2/2013 2:12:47 AM   
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 I sometimes wish Fugazi had just thought 'fuck it' and signed to one of the major labels salivating over them in the '90s so more people could have heard how absolutely fucking awesome they were.

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RE: Your Unpopular Musical Opinion - 23/2/2013 10:27:12 PM   
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 Happy hardcore is ace!
Some of the most beautiful music ever made is trance.
The early nineties rave scene was one of the most inventive and creative periods in music history.
The Prodigy's best album, by a considerable distance, is Experience.

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