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RE: Lethal Weapon - 15/6/2011 1:21:29 PM   
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RE: Lethal Weapon - 15/6/2011 1:33:38 PM   
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I had one where she was dancing, but it was a bit too 'boobacious' to use

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RE: Lethal Weapon - 15/6/2011 1:43:56 PM   
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LETHAL WEAPON - 31/7/2011 7:04:51 PM   
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Watchin' the first (and best) film right now. Gibson is f**kin' cool right here!

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LETHAL WEAPON - 16/10/2011 2:33:58 PM   
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To quote Danny in this classic - "I'm too Old for this s**t!"

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LETHAL WEAPON - 18/12/2011 9:24:03 AM   
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"Hey boss, can he put the sirens on, huh? Can he?"   Gotta love Martin Riggs! Just such a shame about the pi$$-poor sequels man.

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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 18/12/2011 1:47:18 PM   
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Just such a shame about the pi$$-poor sequels man.


No love for Lethal Weapon 2?

Personally speaking, I think I like LW2 a little bit more than LW1.


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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 18/12/2011 2:16:38 PM   
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Lethal Weapon 3 is my favourite.

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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 18/12/2011 3:53:00 PM   
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Really don't get the hate for the Lethal Weapon sequels. Sure the humour increased with each one but all four films are solid old fashioned actioners, especially the first 3.

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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 18/12/2011 4:09:55 PM   
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Gotta love Martin Riggs! Just such a shame about the pi$$-poor sequels man.


LW 2 is awesome!

Parts 3 and 4, not so much. LW4 is probably the worst though, and that had Jet Li!!!!!!


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RE: Lethal Weapon - 18/12/2011 5:37:17 PM   
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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 18/12/2011 7:40:40 PM   
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"Hey boss, can he put the sirens on, huh? Can he?"   Gotta love Martin Riggs! Just such a shame about the pi$$-poor sequels man.


What? Lethal Weapon 2 is awesome.Its even better than the first!

3 and 4 go ott with the slapstick comedy but are still good action movies.


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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 18/12/2011 7:49:42 PM   
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The reasons that Snake-Eyes has a particular dislike of the Lethal Weapon sequels:
 
LW2:
* That ridiculously long, borderline soft core porn sex scene with Patsy Kensit. I don't like sex scenes in action movies (only exception maybe, is THE TERMINATOR)
* The introduction of the single most annoying character in film history who isn't Jar Jar Binks - 'Leo Getz'. I can't f**king stand him.
 
LW3:
* Rene Russo. I F**KING HATE RENE RUSSO!!!
* Ain't nuthin' 'Lethal' about Riggs anymore. He's just a f**king skirt-chaser.
 
LW4:
* It's no longer an action movie. It's a f**king sit-com!
* Jet Li gets beaten by old man Murtaugh and Riggs who is no longer 'Lethal' but a soddin' family man? REALLY?!
* Chris Rock in a Lethal Weapon film = DOES NOT COMPUTE.
 
F**k the World. There is only ONE LETHAL WEAPON film. End Of!!!

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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 18/12/2011 8:03:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Snake-Eyes

The reasons that Snake-Eyes has a particular dislike of the Lethal Weapon sequels:
 
LW2:
* That ridiculously long, borderline soft core porn sex scene with Patsy Kensit. I don't like sex scenes in action movies (only exception maybe, is THE TERMINATOR)
* The introduction of the single most annoying character in film history who isn't Jar Jar Binks - 'Leo Getz'. I can't f**king stand him.
 
LW3:
* Rene Russo. I F**KING HATE RENE RUSSO!!!
* Ain't nuthin' 'Lethal' about Riggs anymore. He's just a f**king skirt-chaser.
 
LW4:
* It's no longer an action movie. It's a f**king sit-com!
* Jet Li gets beaten by old man Murtaugh and Riggs who is no longer 'Lethal' but a soddin' family man? REALLY?!
* Chris Rock in a Lethal Weapon film = DOES NOT COMPUTE.
 
F**k the World. There is only ONE LETHAL WEAPON film. End Of!!!


First of all,any film that has Patsy Kensit naked is all right with me!

I dunno about Riggs not being lethal in the sequels.Did you see the amount of carnage he dished out to the baddies after they killed his new girlfriend and found out who killed his wife? Dropping a 10 ton cargo container on someone is pretty lethal to me!

I canunderstand where youre coming from about Leo Getz.But i think hes really funny(in LW2 at least,he was a bit too much in 3 and 4).

Disagee completely about Rene Russo.Shes beautiful,kicks ass,and she can act too.

LW4 has its faults but the final three way fight between Riggs,Murtaugh,and Li was very well done.And hey,old man Murtaugh took down a Predator once dontcha know!

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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 18/12/2011 8:10:44 PM   
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First of all,any film that has Patsy Kensit naked is all right with me!



What, that makes a film good for you?

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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 18/12/2011 8:17:36 PM   
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First of all,any film that has Patsy Kensit naked is all right with me!



What, that makes a film good for you?


Well it doesnt make a film automatically good but it means that its at least worth watching!

She was very cute back then



And her characters death in the film was fairly shocking.It gave Riggs a reason to go all apeshit on the baddies!


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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 18/12/2011 8:30:15 PM   
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I'll admit that the franchise lost its bite when it upped the humour quotient, had weaker villians than Busey and Ackland and made Riggs more stable, but I like parts 3 and 4. Those two films have a certain charm to them that makes them hard for me to hate.



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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 18/12/2011 8:49:44 PM   
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And may I add that the climactic scrap between Glover, Gibson and Li in part 4 - specifically the uncut version - is an absolute fucking blinder.

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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 18/12/2011 8:52:49 PM   
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And may I add that the climactic scrap between Glover, Gibson and Li in part 4 - specifically the uncut version - is an absolute fucking blinder.


Hm. Not exactly as raw as the fight between Riggs and Mr. Joshua though was it?

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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 18/12/2011 11:03:52 PM   
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To be honest, the final fight between Riggs and Mr.Joshua has always been my least favourite bit of an otherwise superb film. It just seems silly how they catch him so easily and then decide to let Riggs fight him whilst the best part of the LAPD look on. Would have been much better if the fight had happened before and then just as Riggs chokes him out the other coppers turn up to take him and then the final double shot by Riggs and Murtaugh.


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LETHAL WEAPON - 19/12/2011 5:48:55 AM   
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Gary Busey was an INFINITELY more bad-a$$ villain than that no-name actor with the stoopid Sout-Africa accent in LW2 who just happened to be responsible for whacking Riggs' wife; ridiculous shoe-horned plot point.

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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 19/12/2011 11:25:42 AM   
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And may I add that the climactic scrap between Glover, Gibson and Li in part 4 - specifically the uncut version - is an absolute fucking blinder.


Hm. Not exactly as raw as the fight between Riggs and Mr. Joshua though was it?


Actually,it was,and a LOT more bloody.Li gets skeward with a pike and then gets a full clip of a machine gun emptied into him...underwater!

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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 20/12/2011 1:55:42 AM   
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Gary Busey was an INFINITELY more bad-a$$ villain than that no-name actor with the stoopid Sout-Africa accent in LW2 who just happened to be responsible for whacking Riggs' wife;ridiculous shoe-horned plot point.


I like the fight between Riggs and Vorstedt in 2. its nasty, Riggs nearly dies and the villain is dispatched in a cool way. love the fight between Riggs and Joshua though, because its not super choreographed, it looks like two guys who know martial arts fighting would look.


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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 27/12/2011 9:44:51 PM   
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And may I add that the climactic scrap between Glover, Gibson and Li in part 4 - specifically the uncut version - is an absolute fucking blinder.


Hm. Not exactly as raw as the fight between Riggs and Mr. Joshua though was it?


Not as raw? Maybe not. Busey is definitely the franchise's best villain but regardless, for me, the scrap at the end of 4 is my favourite. I just love the way it involves both Riggs and Martaugh, they both get seven bells of shit kicked out of them, and it's wonderfully OTT, both in brutality and the melodramatic way it's filmed. Looks bloody great in high-def, too.

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Gary Busey was an INFINITELY more bad-a$$ villain than that no-name actor with the stoopid Sout-Africa accent in LW2 who just happened to be responsible for whacking Riggs' wife; ridiculous shoe-horned plot point.


Not sure why the fact that Derrick O'Connor is less famous than Busey matters in any way. His South African accent was pitch-perfect and he gives a great performance, sadistic and sardonic. Is Vorstedt more badass than Joshua? Maybe. Don't see why it matters or how that can even be quantified, given that they're both brutal killers. Busey is more of a nut-job in real life so maybe that gives him more edge, I dunno.

I think the fight between Riggs and Vorstedt is fantastic, mainly because it's the most emotional of the series. The whole 'Vorstedt killed Riggs' wife' plot-thread may seem a little crow-barred but I think it lends terrific gravitas to Riggs' rage, the vengeful hatred on his face when he's plunging the knife into Vortsedt gives me goosebumps. Love it.

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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 27/12/2011 10:08:08 PM   
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The fight between Riggs and Vorstedt to me,is the most satisfying.Its extremly brutal,Riggs is wounded,and at an extreme disadvantage.I just love the way he manages to get the upper hand though and Gibsons performance is outstanding as he plunges the knife into his adversary.Of course,stabbing the guy to death is just not grisly enough so Riggs dumps a GREAT BIG FUCKING CARGO CONTAINER ON THE FUCKER!



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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 13/4/2012 1:58:46 PM   
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After reading Empires recent feature about Lethal Weapon i decided it was time to crack open the box set and have a watch of these films. Its been a few years so i watched them over the weekend and here is my take on each:


Lethal Weapon ****

Its a great film with some stand out action scenes, great comic timing, interesting characters and involving story line. The two leads play really well off each other and its there differences that make the film so much fun. I tell you what they don't make action\comedy films like this any more, and its a shame this is great Friday night fair. Also one of the best line in cinema history:

"I'm to old for this shit"



Lethal Weapon 2 ****

Another great film that for me sits side by side with the original. What i do enjoy about this second outing is the added comedy and increased harder edge. A stand out is the ongoing joke through out the film about both Murtough's car and the rubbers, neither are main plot points but really add depth to the whole film and show the friendship these two guys now have. Also two great lines from this film:

"But your Black"
and
"Diplomatic immunity"



Lethal Weapon 3 ***

A good film but this is where the wheels start to come off a little. The hard edge is toned down and the comedy is a little bid more forced here and the story isn't all that great and it seems it is just a backdrop for the two leads to have fun and get into tight spots. The action scenes are still top draw though, and at least the two main characters have a good bit of character development with the impending retirerment of Murtough coupled with the killing of the kid and a love interest for Riggs.




Lethal Weapon 4 ***

I do enjoy this film but not for the same reasons i enjoy the other three. Its the same feeling i get when watching all returning 80s action films. ie Indiana Jones and Die Hard. Somehow you are willing them to be as good as the others but the magic has wore off by film number four. The film hasn't aged well either, the jokes aren't really that funny and they both really are to old for any of the actions scenes, most of it done by stunt doubles which really shows. The chase on foot is a good example of this, Mel Gibsons stunt double might as well have been cast in the role of Riggs the amount of times you see his face. I think the inclusion of too many characters doesnt help either. But its all wraped up nice and i do find the scene with Riggs and Leo near the end very touching. But you know things are bad when the best bit of the whole film is the end credits.



Overall i can sit and watch these films anytime, they are easy going and fun. Im not sure i would welcome a return for a fifth outing. But i don't really see that happening now they are all to old for this shit.

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RE: LETHAL WEAPON - 13/4/2012 2:44:48 PM   
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I really enjoy all of them. 1 or 2 would be my favourite, but can't quite decide between them. The scene with Riggs' attempted suicide in the first is incredible - almost makes me want to cry! Doesn't quite seem right for an '80s buddy cop movie...

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RE: Lethal Weapon - 13/4/2012 2:55:27 PM   
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In my opinion they are all fine films. Lethal Weapons 1 & 2 do stand head and shoulders above 3 & 4 though. They are much more adult in their action storytelling, wheras the last two movies have much more obvious humour, an not all thanks to Leo Getz.

I think that perhaps by the forth installment they had become a little bit "sitcom-ish". Partly by softening up characters - Snake eyes is right when he says that any of Riggs lethalness is gone by part 3. He was lethal primarily because he didn't care whether he lived or died and was suicidal, his kung fu and shooting ability was secondary I think. By part 4 he's having his own family and is as far from wanting to die, or not caring, as you can get. - but also I think because we know the characters now. They have all been played by the same actors throughout and we are very familiar with them. Suddenly the family aspects of storylines starts to precedence over the police storylines. This wasn't the best thing to happen...

I think part 3 is the weakest installment, and I found that Rene Russo's character was one too many and got in the way. I always liked that "bromance" factor between Riggs and Murtough and she kind of got in the way of this. Once she was introduced their relationship wasn't really explored further which was a shame.

Part 4 is pretty good. Again not a patch on the first two but entertaining enough. They are now coming to terms with not only their age, which for Roger was always a factor, but retirement. An there is some nice moments and moments of humour mined from this. And I like the fight at the end. You really see that the two guys cannot and will not walk away from "the bad guys" and will really stand toe to toe and side by side with even the most seemingly undefeatable foe. The uncut version is the better and it is nice to see Murtough play an equal part in the physical defeating of a villian, rather than Riggs doing all the swinging. Some nice one liners too. Decent film.

Parts 1 & 2 I find difficult to seperate in terms of which is the better, I really do. The mood of both is rather dark an the action as I said earlier more adult. Both have good villians, though Busey does take it down here. I do think that Lethal Weapon 2 has the better ending by far. With Riggs on the edge of death, Murtough cradling him and Knockin' on Heavens Door coming in slowly. And both films have some classic set pieces...

Lethal Weapon:
 
The weapons training/smiley face scene.

"Do you really wanna jump?! Well come on! That's fine with me!"

Riggs shooting at a helicopter. Very cool.

Riggs and the christmas tree's.

The final fight.


Lethal Weapon 2.
 
The opening car chase

Riggs in a straightjacket

"But you're blick?!"

The introuction of Leo Getz

Bringing own the house

The last 20 minutes.

"Diplomatic Immunity"
"It's just been revoked!"


Yeah, I got to say I think that Lethal Weapon 2 is the better film. Danny Glover is given more to do and a share of the good dialogue "He was decaffinated". And more of the movie stands out in my mind than the first one.

Yep, Lethal Weapon 2 for me. Patsy Kensit or no.

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RE: Lethal Weapon - 13/4/2012 3:36:22 PM   
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How is the bly-ray boxset they brought out last year? Seriously considering getting it.

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RE: Lethal Weapon - 6/2/2013 10:15:59 PM   
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Ive just bought the blu ray special edition box set with tonnes of extras from sainsburys for 10. A bleeding tenner!!!!! Bargain or what!!

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