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Is Len Wiseman Off Escape From New York? - 5/10/2007 10:50:46 AM   
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- 5/10/2007 10:50:46 AM   
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 If I ever met either of them, I'd punchthem in the face... well probably not Wiseman, his wife is hot

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Go Ratner! - 5/10/2007 11:14:39 AM   
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 Brett Ratner makes good movies,so stop bashing him Empire! Just a small bit of advice for you Ratner if youre reading this...Dont hire Chris Tucker to play the duke!

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- 5/10/2007 11:27:41 AM   
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 Brett Ratner hasn't made a good film since.....um......well I liked Rush Hour 1 but the third film was an abomination unto the Lord.

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- 5/10/2007 11:42:06 AM   
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I thought Red Dragon was an excellent film, and showed a lot potential for Ratner.

Could be worse though, John Carpenter could be directing it.

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- 5/10/2007 11:53:11 AM   
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Oh cock. I thought the Escape remake was a bad idea from the beginning, but Ratner is the anti-Carpenter! I wouldn't be happy to hear that Ratner was supposed to direct Lethal Weapon V or another The Mummy sequel, but it would at least be fitting. Yet Ratner and darkness just don't go together at all... please stop this nonsense, Mr. Line (or may I call you just 'New'?)!

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- 5/10/2007 11:57:11 AM   
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I bet you one man who will probably join Mr.Ratner in this adaption is:

Mr.Chris Tucker

maybe even a cameo.

Also this will turn out to be a comedy rather than an action film

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- 5/10/2007 12:48:06 PM   
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Thank christ for that. I fuckin HATE Len Wiseman!

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If Ratners directing was any more pedastrian... - 5/10/2007 12:52:24 PM   
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...He'd have a zebra crossing tattoed on his arse.

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- 5/10/2007 1:02:45 PM   
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 I think Hollywood's long overdue a cocaine induced heart attack, hopefully one will clain Ratner the fucking fat talentless fuck. Hopefully while he's driving near Wisemans house so he can take out that flashy cunt too. Jesus, I really don't understand how these pricks get work outside music promo's. i really don't.

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Meh... - 5/10/2007 1:04:44 PM   
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 Is their really any difference between the two, their both decidedly mediocre directors. Escape from New york was Carpenters best movie by a long way and Snake Plissken is such a cool character but Carpenter's no David Fincher himself, so it's really down to whether Gerard Butler can pull of a decent performance as Plissken,...my money would be on yes he can! (as long as he get's some serious accent training)!!

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This makes a GROWN MAN WEEP - 5/10/2007 1:14:05 PM   
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This is the most worst news ever, at least wiseman wouldve given it a crack, but bratner is so vanilla plain.
I cant believe this is happening, maybe they should get carpenter to do it again

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RE: This makes a GROWN MAN WEEP - 5/10/2007 1:57:10 PM   
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Carpenter already has done it again, it's called Escape From L.A. and it's gonna be a tough one for Ratner to make a movie even worse than this.
I'm sorry to be so harsh, but the Carp of late has only made really crappy movies. To his defence though they were bad in a charismatic, b-movie way, while Wiseman's and Ratner's movies were bad in a very bland, forgettable way.
Chris Tucker as the Duke. Oh dear.

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What's Going On!? - 5/10/2007 1:57:51 PM   
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Empire. Why are you blind to the fact that Die Hard 4.0 is one of the most offensive hack-jobs ever and a horrific betrayal of the original - a film you have celebrated as a modern classic since I've been reading your mag? The fact that so many people seem to enjoy Wiseman's crime is the first true sign of the apocalypse.

At least Ratner can tell a story and create a character, I'd pick him any day over Wiseman - who should stick to vacant pop promos. Neither are appropriate for Escape but one is clearly worse than the other.

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I know you like him... - 5/10/2007 2:00:54 PM   
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...but my god, Ratner has the most punchable face alive.

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- 5/10/2007 2:05:33 PM   
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I would get someone like David Fincher to direct Escape From New York, now THAT would be fuckin worth watching!!!

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- 5/10/2007 2:16:13 PM   
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don't get me wrong, i don't min Bret Rattner films but he is SO wrong for Escape From New York.

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What's Going On!? - 5/10/2007 2:26:24 PM   
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Empire. Why are you blind to the fact that Die Hard 4.0 is one of the most offensive hack-jobs ever and a horrific betrayal of the original - a film you have celebrated as a modern classic since I've been reading your mag? The fact that so many people seem to enjoy Wiseman's crime is the first true sign of the apocalypse.

At least Ratner can tell a story and create a character, I'd pick him any day over Wiseman - who should stick to vacant pop promos. Neither are appropriate for Escape but one is clearly worse than the other.

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Ratner just as bad as McG .Gerry will be good as snake ... - 5/10/2007 3:08:15 PM   
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Ratner ruined the x men only a man like Ratner would kill off a class actor like patrick stewert and get rid of Cyclops when in the comics he moves on and gets another bird he really is as bad as McG.Gerard will be class ok no one will ever top Russel just like no one will ever top Sean as Bond but Ged could do what Craig done for Bond and make it cool again and appropiate for modern tmes

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RE: Ratner just as bad as McG .Gerry will be good as sn... - 5/10/2007 3:43:09 PM   
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 tis true his face is very punchable, but i think it was equally fox's fault that x3 didnt work as well as the second film. out of interest has anyone ever seen ratners "performance" in the robert downey jr starring "black and white"? its about a group of middle class white kids (frodo be one of them) that are into hip hop culture, and ratner cameos as himself in a scene or two. he talks a bit like tim westwood.



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Doesn't Make Bad Films? - 5/10/2007 3:51:49 PM   
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 Exsqueeze me? Baking powder? Have you seen Rush Hour 3? Also known as the film which ended Jackie Chans career (I love him, but I cannot forgive him for agreeing to say 'I'm half black' No Jackie. Your not.) and putting Chris Tucker in movie folk-lore as the most money paid to a bad actor who does a terrible job...?

This will be total shit. After Serenity 2 and Crank 2 news coupled with this and T4: McG I cannot help but smile for the little cult films that are showing up the blockbusters...

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Why do a remake... - 5/10/2007 4:18:23 PM   
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...when if asked and given free reign, I bet John Carpenter and Kurt Russell would love to do a new sequel. I for one would love to see what happened to Plissken after he shut down the earths power, does anyone else agree?

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RE: Is Len Wiseman Off Escape From New York? - 5/10/2007 4:18:58 PM   
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ha that really is a dillemma! 2/3 of wisemans have been fucking awful, whereas most of Ratners films are generally frustrating to watch, rush hour 1 being an exception. id say keep wiseman,

die hard 4 was quite entertaining.

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- 5/10/2007 5:03:39 PM   
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wiseman direction of the action scenes in die hard was ace,the tunnel set piece springs to mind,prehaps with the right producer (carpenter?) to get the dark elements in and the 'fuck you' attitude,it could have been a real crowd pleaser. ratner doesn't do action films,dont dare say rush hours were action.maybe he'll sack gerrad butler for emmm hmmm....chris tucker......

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Remakes - 5/10/2007 5:12:15 PM   
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What's with all the remakes these days!!!! - Surely there must be some minds out there with some orginal ideas??!!!

If you are to do a remak then why not a film like "Starship Troopers" using the technology availbale nowadays to give the book a film worthy of the name!!!

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- 5/10/2007 5:52:40 PM   
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OH FOR FUCK SAKE!!!! DID NO ONE SEE X3? JESUS WHY DOES THIS MAN KEEP BEING GIVEN DECENT FILMS FOR HIM TOO RUIN!

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RE: - 5/10/2007 6:46:31 PM   
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 Will somebody ever rid us of this Rattner?

I would actually have prefered Wiseman, Die Hard 4.0 was actually qiute good.

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NO NO NO NO NO - 5/10/2007 10:53:10 PM   
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This is a classic which should't be touched in the first goddamn place and especially not by Brett Fucking Ratner. Yes the man can direct fairly brainless shit. (Rush Hour 1,2 and 3) But for the love all things holy X3 was an abomination. Besides the original was perfect. Sure John Carpenter can't make movies now but he was the fucking man before the 90's kicked in. Just because Rob Zombie can pull it off doen't mean Bret Ratner can (mainly because he's pish.

AHHHHHHHHHH Rant over

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RE: NO NO NO NO NO - 6/10/2007 12:39:28 AM   
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- 6/10/2007 1:07:41 AM   
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????????????????????????????????????????????

I give up.

Oh and X3 was not "disappointing" it was a complete turkey!

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