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RE: James Bond Series - 7/9/2007 12:20:00 AM   
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RE: James Bond Series - 23/9/2007 2:02:32 PM   
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^Then what are you two doing on this thread?


I enjoy the James Bond films too; my favourites are The World is Not Enough, Octopussy and The Spy Who Loved Me. However, I don't think too much of The Man with the Golden Gun or A View to a Kill, and I have no intention of seeing Casino Royale.

For fellow Bond fans here, there's a website you might like to check out

http://www.ajb007.co.uk/

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RE: James Bond Series - 5/10/2007 1:43:21 PM   
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I've just bought the Moore Ultimate Box Set 

Here's my two-cents on The Connery years:

Dr No:   Really over-rated - it's boring and stupid.
From Russia With Love:   Excellent cold-war thriller- the only one it's possible to take even slighty seriously.
Goldfinger:   Very good, though not the best.
Thunderball:   How boring? Very. Underwater action is not exciting.
You Only Live Twice:   My personal fave. The most fun Bond film.
Diamonds Are Forver:   Not particularly good, is it?



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RE: James Bond Series - 7/10/2007 9:41:13 PM   
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Thunderball is very good a real claasic blockbuster

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RE: James Bond Series - 31/12/2007 5:19:54 PM   
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Rumbaabaa? anyways.....
 
Dr. No isn't boring because thats the movie not only that started the Bond franchise but also created a lasting image, Ursula Andress coming out of the sea in that bikini, now seeing as it was the first movie , they might have had a budget, maybe thats why it doesnt look so fabulous and exotic. Also introduces SPECTRE.
 
From Russia With Love is one of my favourite movies, as you said excellent cold war thriller and the villians were excellent, also the first apperence of Blofeld, previously mentioned in Dr. No, and the first apperence of Q.
 
Goldfinger another one of my fave Bond movies, introducing Q a bit more, Bond's first car Austin Martin DB5, great gadgets (ejector seat).
Loads of women, (Pussy Galore, Jill and Till) And another lasting image of the Jill painted in gold.
 
Thunderball not boring, maybe one of the underated Bonds, featuring the first Bond female villian, also a great load of sexy Bond girls. Features a bit more about SPECTRE.
 
You Only Live Twice is one of the boring Bond movies, set in Japan, Bond marrying fakely. Ninja Training, it's something out of a martial arts movie and the gadgets were apalling. Only one good point about this movie is that it shows Blofelds face. Apart from that the movies not good.
If they had shown Blofelds face in ONHMSS then YOLT would have been a flop.
 
Diamonds Are Forever is also another boring Bond film, being set in Amsterdam and the cloning of Blofeld and if you watch carefully in YOLT then you will realise that Henderson (Charles Gray) also plays Blofeld in Diamonds Are Forever.
 
Also the Bond movies till Diamonds Are Forever continued from SPECTRE taking revenge for Dr. No in From Russia With Love and a reference about Dr. No in Goldfinger which means that Goldfinger takes place after Dr. No and before From Russia With Love. You Only Live Twice connects Thunderball and From Russia With Love together by Blofeld and ONHMSS together with Diamonds are Forever with the death of Mrs. Bond.
 
No they do mention Blofield before the credits in For Your Eyes Only (a rubbish Bond movie, perhaps they knew the movie would flop so adding Blofeld might add the antisipation of the film)
 
All the Roger Moore movies don't show a continuing pattern apart from The Spy Who Loved Me (an excellent Bond movie) and Moonraker which shows Jaws. and also Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies because of Jack Wade and Goldeneye and The World is Not Enough becuase of Valintin Zukovsky.
 
Also Joe Don Baker (Jack Wade) played a role in The Living Daylights as Brad Whitaker.
 
ENOUGH SAID.
 
 

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RE: James Bond Series - 2/1/2008 7:17:34 PM   
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I would be hard pressed to pick a Bond movie that I loved the most.  Or a Bond for that matter, every one of those blokes bought something different to the table.  At the moment I am really liking Casino Royale mostly because it is most like the bond in the books, and Craig has such a screen presence.  That can also be said about OHMSS I think as Bond does fall in love so heavily which is what the book Bond is like.  Also like Dalton for his broodiness.  I own almost all the DVD and books now, and watch them pretty regularly. 

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RE: James Bond Series - 3/1/2008 1:05:35 PM   
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Hate to be boring but its Casino Royale and From Russia with Love for me. Not many gadgets and pissing about in these two. Robert Shaw is my favourite villian with the Gazza haircut.

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RE: James Bond Series - 3/1/2008 4:29:12 PM   
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RIP.


Oh for God's sake DC. If you can praise Die Another Day and then slam Casino Royale, some is definetly foul in the state of Denmark.

People are often quick to say that the literary James Bond and the cinematic James Bond should be two seperate entities but these are often the people that really enjoy the campier aspects that Moore bought to the role.

James Bond IS a secret agent with a licence to KILL. He is not a buffon with a spasmotic eyebrow.

Craig revitalised a series that was on its knees and I'll tell you the reason why it was. It wasn't overuse of CGI, it wasn't bad scripts (well partly)...it was Austin Powers.

Austin Powers showed the Bond franchise up for what it had become - a franchise that placed spectacle and gadgets over the character, something that thankfully has been fixed.

People can credit Paul Greengrass and the Bourne series all they want for revitalising Bond, but know that the character of Bourne, Bauer et al would be nowhere without Bond. The character has had a few stumbles cinematically over the years - Diamonds Are Forever, Moonraker and Die Another Day but it looks like he's back to being the cold hearted bastard (Yes, he is meant to be a bastard. Not a centrefold for GQ) that Ian Fleming intended.

 
For me, while Sean Connery may be the quintessential Bond for many, it's been Timothy Dalton that's portrayed Bond how I have always seen him in my mind and in Fleming's books. A man who enjoys women but doesn't care for them in his life, who is good at his job but isn't overly fond of it and a man who can be cold and callous.

Brosnan tried to get a lot of this across and for one really enjoy the first three Brosnan films. Sure certain aspects are overblown but there are little moments where Pierce nailed the character - his inner anger at 006's betrayal, his execution of Paris's killer in TDN and the way he kills Elektra. Coldly.

 
Roger Moore was all about spectacle and his films are clearly a product of their time - humour over story, style over substance, one liners over actual spy work. Saying that though, For Your Eyes Only is a fantastic Bond film and one where the film makers tried to take the character back to its roots after the silliness of Moonraker.

As for Lazenbry. I like him. He plays most of the film as a dithering professor that doesn't help, but when he's cradling Tracey in his arms - all sins are forgiven.

The likes of Darth Silas and DC may point out the failings of the more 'serious' Bond films at the box office but that's because the general audience and by that I mean the Americans, are used to Bond dispatching goons with a one-liner and then bedding the nearest piece of skirt. For those that know and love the character, they can appreciate what Dalton, Connery, Craig and even Brosnan brought to the role.


An edge. Bond is an orphan. A man who is often alone (after making the mistake of becoming attached to one person before), kills without compassion and does his best for Queen and country. He's not Bourne who is out essentially for himself and the two shouldn't be compared.

Bond is an institution and hopefully will be around for a long time to come. After all, you all know the name and the number.

"I might ask if all those vodka martinis silence the screams of all the men you've killed... or if you've found forgiveness in the arms of all those willing women for the dead ones you failed to protect?"





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RE: James Bond Series - 3/1/2008 4:49:37 PM   
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David Niven was the best bond since Nelson, Barry Nelson. But the definitive Bond will always be...



Bob Holness



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RE: James Bond Series - 3/1/2008 4:56:51 PM   
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I would be hard pressed to pick a Bond movie that I loved the most.  Or a Bond for that matter, every one of those blokes bought something different to the table.  At the moment I am really liking Casino Royale mostly because it is most like the bond in the books, and Craig has such a screen presence.  That can also be said about OHMSS I think as Bond does fall in love so heavily which is what the book Bond is like.  Also like Dalton for his broodiness.  I own almost all the DVD and books now, and watch them pretty regularly. 


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RE: James Bond Series - 4/1/2008 11:19:37 AM   
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I'd just like to say that Timon's last post is the most sensible and incisive thing I've ever read about Bond on these forums. Well said, sir!

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RE: James Bond Series - 5/1/2008 12:03:14 AM   
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Sean Connery was a great Bond. I gave up after the first couple of Roger Moore Bonds - he stank, and so did the films.
Pierce Brosnan was OK, but by that stage I felt that the films were becomming too dependent on gadgets and CGI.
With Casino Royale, the series has got back to basics, got rid of the bullshit, and got its edge back. Daniel Craig is the best Bond since Connery.

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RE: James Bond Series - 6/1/2008 3:46:28 PM   
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I've always loved the Bond films and probably always will,I think silly ones like Die Another Day [just what is the hate for this film ?] and Moonraker have as much right to exist as more serious ones like For Your Eyes Only and Casino Royale.  I suppose the only Bond film I enjoy that much is Licence To Kill,it never seems like a Bond film to me.  I watch these film every year or so in order and usually have second thoughts about putting Licence To Kill on but always do.

My five favourite Bond films would be
1st/ On Her Majesty's Secret Service [I think Lazenby was good,and the only real flaw with it is the dull middle Piz Gloria section,everything else is perfect]
2nd/ You Only Live Twice [sheer awesome escapism] 
3rd/ Thunderball   [I actually love the underwater scenes]
4th/ From Russia With Love  [Bond in a Hitchcock film]
5th/ Actually not sure,it would between Casino Royale,The Living Daylights or Moonraker [honestly!]

I've always found Goldinger rather overrated though.  Why is it so great?  It has little action,suspense [until the end],Bond does little and is locked up too much,is appallingly sexist [Bond rapes a lesbain and she's then straight WTF?]  and the acting is variable to say the least.

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RE: James Bond Series - 4/4/2008 2:09:12 PM   
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Craig's looking good in 'Solace'.




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RE: James Bond Series - 4/4/2008 4:14:06 PM   
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I have to admit I wasn't convinced that Craig would be a good Bond. I thought Casino Royale would be a lot of wank. But I gave it the benefit and I'm so glad I did. IMO (and it is only mine) Casino Royale is THE best Bond film. Craig was fantastic and fully merited his Bafta nomination. The script and direction were excellent as well. Everyone has their own favourite Bond. Most tend to go with Connery, his best Bond film I think was Thunderball. Lazenby again IMO was quite good and Her Majestys Secret Service is very underrated. Moore to me is a complete arse, he scored with Live and Let Die but the rest are like Carry-On films. Dalton was so-so, could've done more if not for all the legal wranglings between the studios after Licence to Kill. Brosnan went downhill after Tomorrow Never Dies. Casino Royale gave the Bond franchise what it needed, a right bloody good kick up the arse! (Or a rope knot in the balls! Whatever takes your fancy).

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RE: James Bond Series - 11/4/2008 3:24:45 AM   
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It's so hard to pick the best out of this lot. I personally rate from Russia with love and On her majesy's secret service above the rest, but all of them, even the shitters have provided some great moments. just look at Die another Day which had the most intense opening out of any of them (shame about the rest of the film) and Licence to Kill which had the dude exploding in the decompression chamber. And then you've got the Moore era, which takes a lot of shit but I absolutely love. You get the recurring characters like Jaws and JW Pepper (did I get that name right?) who provide some truly hilarious moments (how good is it when Jaws gets his girl in Moonraker). You just can't pigeon hole these films. At the end of the day, if any one of  these films comes onto TV I'll happily take the time out of my day to give them the attention that they deserve, and as long as they keep dishing out new ones, I'll still fork out the dough to go and see them.

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RE: James Bond Series - 11/4/2008 6:49:53 PM   
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Craig's looking good in 'Solace'.



Looks like a still from the Miami vice remake

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RE: James Bond Series - 11/4/2008 6:57:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

Craig's looking good in 'Solace'.



Looks like a still from the Miami vice remake


Why? Because he's wearing a t-shirt, shades and it looks hot

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RE: James Bond Series - 13/4/2008 5:42:06 AM   
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Not a massive fan of Bond but there are some great films throughout the series, from each Bond (Except Lazenby and Craig). I think Pearce Brosnan was the best, shame then that he got some of the worst of the films (Loved Goldeneye though). Dalton was also great, I love The Living Daylights and License to Kill.

A while ago I bought all the box sets but I haven't watched anything from them yet, might have to start tucking into them. It's been years since I last watched a Bond film (Besides the unimpressive Casino Royale)


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RE: James Bond Series - 22/4/2008 5:17:23 PM   
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James Bond: The True Story
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The historical documentary series continues with this look at the real-life story behind James Bond. Author Ian Fleming wanted his suave secret agent to be the ultimate spy - but who provided the inspiration for Bond? This film reveals Fleming's wartime service in naval intelligence and profiles two men who could have supplied the basis for Bond's character.VIDEO Plus+: 4567491
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RE: James Bond Series - 24/5/2008 3:17:11 PM   
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I think You Only LIve Twice and Diamonds Are Forever are unfairly overlooked .
The two best and most enertaining Bond films.

The worst two being Die Another Day and The Living Daylights.

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RE: James Bond Series - 24/5/2008 3:20:08 PM   
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The most underated bonds in my opinion are The world is not enough and License to kill.

The worst two being Casino royale and Diamonds are forever.

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RE: James Bond Series - 24/5/2008 4:26:39 PM   
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My favourite Bond films are
Goldfinger
Goldeneye
Licence To Kill
The Living Daylights
Casino Royale (2006)




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RE: James Bond Series - 26/5/2008 10:53:23 PM   
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The best: Licence To Kill
The worst: The World Is Not Enough

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RE: James Bond Series - 27/5/2008 4:48:56 AM   
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My favourite Bond is Timothy Dalton - I havent read all the Bond books, but i've read enough to know that Dalton portrays Flemings Bond.

Tomorrow never Dies and The Living Daylights are my favouite Bonds

Moonraker is probably the worst because its so far detached from the books, in a bad way, which is probably my favourite ive read so far.

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RE: James Bond Series - 27/5/2008 1:58:26 PM   
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Anyone brought the James Bond Encyclopedia ? its very good has all the info on all 21 bond movies

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RE: James Bond Series - 2/6/2008 4:18:36 PM   
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The Origins of James Bond from NationalPost.com (Suggested by BourneBad)

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RE: James Bond Series - 2/6/2008 4:46:44 PM   
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It's strange how Bond remains popular after so many stinkers! Here's my complete ratings for the films...
  1. Dr No (1962) - 9/10
  2. Goldfinger (1964) - 8/10
  3. From Russia With Love (1963) - 8/10
  4. Spy Who Loved Me, the (1977) - 8/10
  5. GoldenEye (1995) - 7/10
  6. Tommorow Never Dies (1999) - 7/10
  7. Casino Royale (2006) - 7/10
  8. A View to a Kill (1985) - 7/10
  9. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969) - 6/10
  10. World Is Not Enough, the (1999) - 6/10
  11. Moonraker (1979) - 6/10
  12. Thunderball (1965) - 6/10
  13. Live and Let Die (1973) - 6/10
  14. Man With the Golden Gun, the (1974) - 5/10
  15. Licence to Kill (1989) - 5/10
  16. Living Daylights, the (1987) - 5/10
  17. You Only Live Twice (1967) - 4/10
  18. Diamonds Are Forever (1971) - 4/10
  19. For Your Eyes Only (1981) - 4/10
  20. Octopussy (1983) - 4/10
  21. Die Another Day (2002) - 3/10


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RE: James Bond Series - 19/10/2008 2:49:50 PM   
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Ian Fleming: Where Bond Began
Sunday 19 October
6:10pm - 7:10pm
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Whenever a new James Bond salvo hits the cinemas, TV crashes the party. Hence the first of several offerings this week, an appreciation of 007 creator Ian Fleming by fan and former Bond girl (she had two lines), Joanna Lumley. In a series of dazzling outfits, Lumley purrs through Fleming's life story. It has been told often, but always fascinates: the stockbroker who became a big shot in wartime intelligence; the womanising spy whose wife-to-be called him a "chocolate sailor" (i.e. all glamour and no action); a Jamaican-based gentleman author whose mix of autobiography and cool fantasy set the 50s alight. From the stills, Fleming looks out at us with a knowing smile and world-weary eyes. For all the detail here, he seems oddly unknowable but Lumley, with help from Sebastian Faulks and Charlie Higson, gets us as close as we're likely to get.

RT reviewer - David ButcherSubtitled, Widescreen, High definition, Audio-described

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RE: James Bond Series - 19/10/2008 3:26:18 PM   
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Austin Powers showed the Bond franchise up for what it had become - a franchise that placed spectacle and gadgets over the character, something that thankfully has been fixed.


Heh heh.


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