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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 5/9/2012 10:38:21 PM   
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Defensive mid is his main position, I'll be interested to see what will have happened to the physical side of his game after being out injured for so long. He's talented but very much in need of match experience - he's prone to rash tackles but his work rate can't be faulted. I was actually expecting him to be loaned out to a PL team, so he's definitely got the talent to be a really good player for you if you get him (providing he can find the form he demonstrated in his handfuls of appearances for us last season).

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 6/9/2012 12:14:22 AM   
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Defensive mid is his main position, I'll be interested to see what will have happened to the physical side of his game after being out injured for so long. He's talented but very much in need of match experience - he's prone to rash tackles but his work rate can't be faulted. I was actually expecting him to be loaned out to a PL team, so he's definitely got the talent to be a really good player for you if you get him (providing he can find the form he demonstrated in his handfuls of appearances for us last season).


He sounds a little like Song then? Song was absolutely excellent for us on loan, and he had a temper to say the least (he got sent off for throwing the ball into the stands on Boxing Day I think after the ref didn't see a clear shirt tug on him) but he was very passionate and worked very hard for us, he was a real touch of class during a very frustrating period for us and he brightened things up in the engine room with great footwork, I know he's still miss sorely by many fans now and we only had him on loan which shows the impact he made.

He sounds an interesting signing and I'd certainly welcome him, I have complete and utter faith in Powelly so I know he'll only bring players to the club he genuinely believes are going to provide something and especially with the remaining uncertainty over Stephens future we could use someone in Frimpong's mould and early suspicions tell me that's why Powelly might be considering bringing him in.


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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 6/9/2012 12:52:59 AM   
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Frimpong was at Wolves on loan last season for a bit until he got injured, and he made a real difference. A lot of Wolves fans believe our season may have turned out differently if he'd stayed fit. He's a bloody useful player, and a class above for the Championship. A great signing imo.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 6/9/2012 8:24:29 AM   
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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 8/9/2012 3:30:02 PM   
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Palace at home on Friday, live on Sky. I hate these games. I hate them because since Simon Jordan quit I couldn't give a monkey's toss about Croydon's Finest, I'll have a dig every now and then as all local rivals do but these games drive me up the wall, mainly due to the dreadful banter (and I'm being very loose with that) that precedes them and all this crap about who's history is what, who shared who's ground, who said this, who's academy is better etc. etc. etc. Our fans are just as bad as their's although at the risk of sounding obviously bias, I do really hate that ultras segment of their's, they are proper troublemakers as well and trying to suggest the Holmesdale End is one of the most passionate stands in Europe is a bit of a joke, anyone who's been to Selhurst Park knows this. Jordan wound me up no end but now he's out the door and even hated by the majority of their supporters, I think we can all look back and have a little laugh. We're both playing at the same level now and none of these games have been especially good either, the last two both finished 1-0 each with ourselves taking the home win and vice versa and they were both absolutely rubbish bar a classy goal each and to be honest I expect Friday to be no different. The Millwall derbies are a lot more exciting in footballing terms with 4-4, 4-0 and 4-3 backing that up as our last three scores.

The team needs to respond to a very disappointing performance against Forest and not focus so much on who we're playing.


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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 14/9/2012 9:42:29 AM   
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Signed a player I've liked for a long time on loan, Paul Gallagher from Leicester.

Hope we can get him for longer than the 6 games we've initially signed him for.




Plus the new third kit is released, which I really like but I need to lose about 2 stone before I try one on in public.



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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 14/9/2012 12:16:07 PM   
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Signed a player I've liked for a long time on loan, Paul Gallagher from Leicester.



Sad to see him go to be honest Bob. He's a great free kick taker, lovely crosser of the ball (he needs to be as he isn't the quickest) and possibly the best penalty taker I've seen. Back to the keeper, 5 paces away, turn round run and kick the fucker. No messing.
As the cliche says, he's a good honest pro, works hard and seems like a top bloke. He'll fit right in at non-league

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 14/9/2012 2:13:21 PM   
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The Massive Mighty Crystal Palace Never Miss An Away Game Sell Out Everywhere Noisy Not To Be Messed With Ultra Support has just over 700 tickets left for it's half-hour trip down the road tonight.

I know I said I'd try and stay out of this but after all the crap I've had to hear from that lot over the past four years I had to laugh when learning that.

I really hope we give it some this evening, we need a response from the piss-poor performance against Forest when we were lucky to just get away with 2-1, we need something similar to the way we played against Leicester and we need to give a bumper home crowd, not to mention a Sky audience, something to cheer about. We also need to keep our cool and not let this derby day stuff get to us, we let that happen against Millwall last time out and it cost us, if we play the way we know we can we can win tonight but if we lose our heads I think they could sneak a draw.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 14/9/2012 8:20:45 PM   
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Not in a million years was that an offside against Charlton! Perfectly level that was.

Also, Zaha is so far up his own backside it's unreal.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 14/9/2012 8:38:01 PM   
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Not in a million years was that an offside against Charlton! Perfectly level that was.

Also, Zaha is so far up his own backside it's unreal.


Don't even get me started, this ref is an absolute joke, he's missed two clear corners for us as well and the curly-haired freak at the back for Palace (forget his name, their players mean nothing to me) should have had a yellow card for his foul on BWP for the free kick, especially if Stephens got one for his foul earlier on.

Thank you for your comments about Zaha, could not agree more, so are the commentators. Is he that good? No, he really is not.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 14/9/2012 8:42:23 PM   
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Is Peter Beagrie joking, I mean I presume he is?

"Palace have absolutely dominated."

Wait, is he ex-Palace? Just like the commentary team?

What a fucking joke Sky are, their worse than than the referee tonight. Let's go out and win this boys and then shove it in their faces afterwards.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 14/9/2012 8:44:07 PM   
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Not sure if he is the same defender you are on about but Delaney is running his mouth at the ref even when he does the most blatant and cynical fouls. I'd be surprised if he finishes the game.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 14/9/2012 8:49:02 PM   
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Not sure if he is the same defender you are on about but Delaney is running his mouth at the ref even when he does the most blatant and cynical fouls. I'd be surprised if he finishes the game.


I think it was Delaney, thanks mate. Yeah it's been a dreadful game for the officials so far, no surprise really, the refereeing standards outside of the EPL have dropped significantly and been ignored for the past few seasons now.

I can't wait to laugh at the EPL club who blows 5 million on Zaha in January or next summer. We could do with bringing Fuller on second half if things stay as they are, give us another dimension up there.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 14/9/2012 8:52:21 PM   
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Charlton are playing well and should get the first goal if there is any justice.

Zaha seems to think he is something great but I disagree. He would be nothing but a phenomenal waste of money for an EPL club.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 14/9/2012 8:56:35 PM   
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For fucks sake

Can't knock the finish though...

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 14/9/2012 9:47:26 PM   
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So embarrassed and humiliated right now. The obvious decision about the goal aside, we were poor once again, no desire, no passion, no want. Powell made some terrible decisions, taking off Jackson for Fuller for one. It completely stripped the engine room and suddenly we couldn't keep the ball in the middle of the park and we won three set-pieces we could have turn something out of at the end there but our dead ball specialist was out of the game and none of Kermorgant, Wilson or Stephens can place one into the box from those positions.

As for Wilson, don't even get me started on him. He is useless, get, fucking, rid.

I don't know what else to say right now, I'm absolutely heartbroken. The team has let us down tonight, so for that matter has Powell, he is not innocent, I know he will try to blame the ref but that's the cheap way out. They're better at least be an apology, the fans of this football club deserve at least that.

I said it thought didn't I? Don't lose your heads and get sucked in and lose composure, and look, that's exactly what we did.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 14/9/2012 9:57:41 PM   
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Powell best improve on his post-match interview with the website later if he still wants support come Monday morning.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 14/9/2012 11:39:31 PM   
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To top off a shite night there's been trouble after the game and several have been arrested. That's wonderful work, almost as bad as what happened on the pitch.

I'll be hurting from this one for awhile.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 15/9/2012 9:00:09 AM   
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I only had it on in the background, so can't comment much. Every time I looked up though, Zaha was running rings round your left back I think he looks a great player myself.

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As for Wilson, don't even get me started on him. He is useless, get, fucking, rid.


That was the lad who took a wild swing at the ball in the 95th minute when you had a box full of big lads waiting to pounce? I'm not even a fan and I shouted "you twat" at the TV

It's only one game Goodfella, admittedly one you really wanted to win, but keep reminding yourself you only came up this seaons, you have one of the brightest young managers in the country, 21 thousand for a Friday night game that's on the TV, and BWP's goal wasn't offside (although to be fair, in normal running time I thought he was offside and he certainly looked it. Slow-mo replays show he wasn't but really it was an impossible shout for the linesman IMO. You'll have plenty go the other way, and also don't forget you got 3 points off us despite being outplayed for the majoirty of the match )

We're televised on Sunday, 1.15pm against Wolves, who are get the feeling aren't going to have a good year. After a positive performance against Blackpool on TV, I hope we can keep it going.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 15/9/2012 11:44:49 AM   
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I only had it on in the background, so can't comment much. Every time I looked up though, Zaha was running rings round your left back I think he looks a great player myself.


Step over, step over, step over, look up, lazy shot. That was Zaha all night, whilst he had bags of pace he never really troubled us that much, if he did, Palace would have scored more goals. He's a luxury player and a show-boater. He'd get found out in the EPL in about five minutes.

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That was the lad who took a wild swing at the ball in the 95th minute when you had a box full of big lads waiting to pounce? I'm not even a fan and I shouted "you twat" at the TV


Yes, that's the one. That was mild compared to what I shouted at the TV. We signed him because supposedly he can play in a variety of defensive and midfield positions although his natural spot is right-back, last night though we had to move Solly across to left-back because apparently he couldn't play there. Jack of all trades, master of absolutely fucking none. His first significant action as a Charlton player was to miss a penalty in the defeat to Leyton Orient in the Capital One Cup. Fans are already fed up of him.

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It's only one game Goodfella, admittedly one you really wanted to win, but keep reminding yourself you only came up this seaons, you have one of the brightest young managers in the country, 21 thousand for a Friday night game that's on the TV, and BWP's goal wasn't offside (although to be fair, in normal running time I thought he was offside and he certainly looked it. Slow-mo replays show he wasn't but really it was an impossible shout for the linesman IMO. You'll have plenty go the other way, and also don't forget you got 3 points off us despite being outplayed for the majoirty of the match )


I know what you're saying but I've seen this with Charlton before and to be switched off like that, at home, in a huge game, in front of a bumper crowd, on national television, is humiliating and heartbreaking for the fans, we've been here so many times in recent years and because of that it's becoming so much harder to suck up. So many things were obviously wrong last night and at home I expect a lot more from us, two garbage performances back to back now against two teams finishing at the wrong end of the table last season. As for the offside call, it doesn't just change the other 89 minutes of football but the refereeing last night was shocking again anyway, as it has been most of this championship season so far.

One thing that has been staring us in the face since the start of the season and one Powell seems to be completely ignorant of, we don't have any naturally wide players out there. Pritchard and Jackson ARE NOT wingers. Why not Wagstaff, Green or Kerkar?

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 16/9/2012 3:14:40 PM   
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Thank fuck for that. Proverbial game of two halves there, Wolves took the first half, Leicester bossed the second. Happy with what turned out to be a bit of a jammy win

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 16/9/2012 7:37:21 PM   
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Thank fuck for that. Proverbial game of two halves there, Wolves took the first half, Leicester bossed the second. Happy with what turned out to be a bit of a jammy win


You produced an almost identical performance to the one we did against Leicester a few weeks back, same scoreline as well! Pearson needs to sort out the way his team goes into the first 20 minutes of games, it's really costing them at the moment.

That's if he survives tomorrow morning, I can see him being the second casualty of the new season, and I dread the thought of Leicester coming knocking at Powelly's door....

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 16/9/2012 7:58:45 PM   
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Thank fuck for that. Proverbial game of two halves there, Wolves took the first half, Leicester bossed the second. Happy with what turned out to be a bit of a jammy win


You produced an almost identical performance to the one we did against Leicester a few weeks back, same scoreline as well! Pearson needs to sort out the way his team goes into the first 20 minutes of games, it's really costing them at the moment.

That's if he survives tomorrow morning, I can see him being the second casualty of the new season, and I dread the thought of Leicester coming knocking at Powelly's door....


Thing is, they're obviously a good side, it just doesn't seem to be going for them at the moment. They dominated midfield in the 2nd half, and on another day could have got a point or 3. A couple of defensive lapses allied to great deliveries from Sako really did for them, other than that they looked ok (after halftime at least). Getting rid of him so early in the season would be a bit of a panicky decision for me.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 16/9/2012 9:02:21 PM   
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Thank fuck for that. Proverbial game of two halves there, Wolves took the first half, Leicester bossed the second. Happy with what turned out to be a bit of a jammy win


You produced an almost identical performance to the one we did against Leicester a few weeks back, same scoreline as well! Pearson needs to sort out the way his team goes into the first 20 minutes of games, it's really costing them at the moment.

That's if he survives tomorrow morning, I can see him being the second casualty of the new season, and I dread the thought of Leicester coming knocking at Powelly's door....


Thing is, they're obviously a good side, it just doesn't seem to be going for them at the moment. They dominated midfield in the 2nd half, and on another day could have got a point or 3. A couple of defensive lapses allied to great deliveries from Sako really did for them, other than that they looked ok (after halftime at least). Getting rid of him so early in the season would be a bit of a panicky decision for me.


They have a lot of talented players (although am I the only one who thinks Kasper Schmeichal is overrated?) but the teams looks a little bit thrown together by bundles of cash with owners desperate for immediate EPL football, they seem to really struggle to play as a team in the first half and in this very competitive league that's going to cost them. I still don't think Blackburn are going to stay where they are currently.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 17/9/2012 9:37:12 PM   
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I've got a feeling that we are going to get annihilated tomorrow.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 17/9/2012 9:40:11 PM   
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I've got a feeling that we are going to get annihilated tomorrow.


I can match that. We're going up against a team struggling for form in their own backyard and we've lost our last two, our confidence is shot to pieces and we'll be lucky if 500 supporters make the trip to Derby on a Tuesday night. They're going to beat us 3-0 or 4-0 and we'll give another insipid performance.

Wiggins has fractured two bones in his foot which means he'll be lucky if he's back by Christmas, that means Lawrie Wilson coming into the team. That alone is enough to make me cry.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 18/9/2012 7:56:11 PM   
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One down already, that took all of six minutes. This is going to be a walk-over for the hosts, I went for 3-1 earlier but more wouldn't surprise me. Live commentary on the radio and they're all over us, we can't even get a grip on the game and I'm starting to get pissed off with Powell. Picked Wilson over Evina and no Wagstaff in the squad again and spent most of his pre-match interview talking about his "pride in Derby" rather than the fact we have turned in two god-awful performances in our last two matches and how we're going to go about correcting that. It's an old cliche attached to Charlton but we have got to stop being so bloody nice and concentrate a bit more on the football!

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 18/9/2012 8:25:19 PM   
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This is sounding like what would happen if I gave my other X-Box controller to my two year-old niece and played FIFA against her. Derby could be so out of sight by now they'd be in the next game, we haven't changed a single thing and have resorted (again) to thumping the ball long down the field in the general direction of Kermorgant and watching the Derby defenders wrestle it off him and build up another composed and clever attack.

If, and I strongly say if, we get to half-time at just 1-0 down Powell needs to go in there and absolutely rip them to pieces, they should be able to hear him from the away end. I know they say teacup-throwing isn't the modern away but bollocks to that, after this half they deserve to have the sound of his voice ringing in their ears because this has truly been Charlton Pathetic.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 18/9/2012 11:36:13 PM   
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Too little, too late and more stereotypical managerial talk from Chris Powell afterwards. Some nonsense how it could have been 1-1 from a header despite the fact they were all over us and really we were lucky to only be 3-0 down by the time Danny Green's screamer got us back into the game.

The fact is the last twenty minutes is irrelevant, it's the first seventy that cost us the game and we were so so poor that even 50% better than that and we'll still get beaten by most teams in this league.

There is a lot of work to be done between now and Saturday and there is nothing to be especially positive about tonight, it's our third loss on the bounce and we looked very much out of our depth.

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RE: The Championship and worse thread 2009/2010!!!!! - 22/9/2012 1:46:27 PM   
Goodfella


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Away at Ipswich today who sit just below us in the table with an identical amount of points but a far inferior goal difference. We shouldn't be thinking about that though, we should just be thinking about winning this game, the last three performances and especially the way we've started each of them just simply hasn't been good enough for this level, that has to change today unless we fancy being in a relegation battle along with the Tractor Boys come the end of the season. Looks like Fuller will start today and I hope Wagstaff comes back into the match-day squad, I'd start at Evina at left-back instead of Wilson but I'm willing to bet Powell doesn't. The defending was terrible on Tuesday night and we need to make sure we keep our lines at the back early on today but also press forward and create chances, we can't wait until the 70th minute to have our first serious chance at goal, especially not on the road.



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