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RE: contrasty script - 12/1/2012 6:08:46 PM   
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writing a short ep series at the mo, one episode is turnin out to be quite contrasting, which could work but wanted to know what your thoughts are

two main protagonists are the heir of Alice and the hatter, their scenes together are turnin fun a light and a bit punk rock (only way i can explain it) where as the villain has turned alot darker than i originally imagined him, for only 6/7 minute episodes would this contrast play out well and help define the characters or do you think it'd come across as confusing and not that fluid

(oh and i'm using this series primarily as a writing exercise, i'd love to get it made it made one day and have a mate whose made a few films more than willing to help me out with it, but for now, i'm just gettin used to writing)


Alice had sex with the Mad Hatter???





you highlighted the words 'two' 'main' and 'protagonists' how can that be one person?



I wasn't saying they were the same person. From your post it seemed that the two progatonists were the descendents of Alice and Mad Hatter. As in Mad Hatter and Alice had kids and these protagonists were the descendants of their offspring. I guess what you meant is that they are the descendants of Alice and Hatter respectively. I.E. One related to Alice, one to Hatter? Either way I wasn't knocking the idea.


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RE: Mugging For Amateurs - 12/1/2012 6:35:31 PM   
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RE: contrasty script - 13/1/2012 3:22:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: steflon

writing a short ep series at the mo, one episode is turnin out to be quite contrasting, which could work but wanted to know what your thoughts are

two main protagonists are the heir of Alice and the hatter, their scenes together are turnin fun a light and a bit punk rock (only way i can explain it) where as the villain has turned alot darker than i originally imagined him, for only 6/7 minute episodes would this contrast play out well and help define the characters or do you think it'd come across as confusing and not that fluid

(oh and i'm using this series primarily as a writing exercise, i'd love to get it made it made one day and have a mate whose made a few films more than willing to help me out with it, but for now, i'm just gettin used to writing)


Alice had sex with the Mad Hatter???





you highlighted the words 'two' 'main' and 'protagonists' how can that be one person?



I wasn't saying they were the same person. From your post it seemed that the two progatonists were the descendents of Alice and Mad Hatter. As in Mad Hatter and Alice had kids and these protagonists were the descendants of their offspring. I guess what you meant is that they are the descendants of Alice and Hatter respectively. I.E. One related to Alice, one to Hatter? Either way I wasn't knocking the idea.



one is the heir of Alice, the other is The Hatter, what i meant is what i wrote.

there is no way to write that sentence without it sounded rude that i can think of, i dont mean it for it to be.



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Mugging For Amateurs - 20/1/2012 10:43:31 AM   
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Hi Guys. Would appreciare any feedback I can get on my first short film.

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RE: Mugging For Amateurs - 8/3/2012 10:30:24 AM   
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New trailer for my latest short


here

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ROUGH-HOUSE - 25/3/2012 11:50:31 AM   
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Just finished my second short. Please, please check it out.
It's a 3 minute Scottish action short!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4j_cN3k4rI

I really hope you guys enjoy it.



(@Hingway Films - The guy's 'uh huh?' was really well timed. Want to see more! When are you releasing it?)

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RE: ROUGH-HOUSE - 27/3/2012 9:51:14 AM   
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Hopefully in May.

It is playing at a couple of festivals first then we'll put it up online.

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RE: ROUGH-HOUSE - 27/3/2012 11:48:30 AM   
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What fests have booked it?

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RE: ROUGH-HOUSE - 30/3/2012 11:45:04 AM   
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It played at the Edinburgh Shorts and The Deep Fried Film Festival last year and has one more to go but it won't be announced till the end of April that it will be showing.

Nothing major but good to get it out there

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RE: ROUGH-HOUSE - 3/4/2012 11:11:50 AM   
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Just finished shooting a post apocalyptic film in the North of England with Billy Murray and Peter Slater.

Murray was a gent from take one to wrap and did the gig for expenses only. When I asked him why he'd travelled all that way to do a film with some nothing filmmakers from the north he replied that first off he had the time off and that second, the script was solid and should have been a feature, which was a bit of a boost! After filming wrapped he took the entire cast and crew out (about 15 people) for drinks in town and paid for the whole night. Legend.

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RE: ROUGH-HOUSE - 6/4/2012 12:41:02 PM   
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First teaser promo for my Ed Wood-style feature "Dr Vornoff vs The Martians!", due to shoot this Summer. the short prequel "Bride Monster!" is all set to shoot this month.

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RE: ROUGH-HOUSE - 16/4/2012 1:35:33 PM   
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Some behind the scenes screens of myself and some of the cast and crew:



half of the crew and Billy








One of our primary shooting locations



Inside the derelict cottage. We had to shovel about a foots worth of sheep shit from here and disinfect the floor. There was also a little problem that was a fresh sheep's corpse rotting by the doorway we had to remove.... by hand

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RE: ROUGH-HOUSE - 18/4/2012 3:11:47 PM   
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Sound! I always liked Billy Murray as Beech back in the good old days of The Bill.

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HERZOG: THE WRATH OF KLAUS - 19/4/2012 9:26:04 AM   
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Klaus Kinski?

Werner Herzog?

I'm both! In this very silly upcoming short which sees both iconic men share a flat in London in the 70's.
Here's the new trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z4CId34Iho

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RE: HERZOG: THE WRATH OF KLAUS - 19/4/2012 9:57:13 AM   
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Klaus Kinski?

Werner Herzog?

I'm both! In this very silly upcoming short which sees both iconic men share a flat in London in the 70's.
Here's the new trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z4CId34Iho

More info on http://www.razorheadfilms.blogspot.com
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Very funny!

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RE: HERZOG: THE WRATH OF KLAUS - 19/4/2012 11:17:02 AM   
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Thanks!

I've been watching your avatar for several hours btw.

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RE: HERZOG: THE WRATH OF KLAUS - 19/4/2012 12:22:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Edward Nygma

Klaus Kinski?

Werner Herzog?

I'm both! In this very silly upcoming short which sees both iconic men share a flat in London in the 70's.
Here's the new trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z4CId34Iho

More info on http://www.razorheadfilms.blogspot.com
@RazorheadFilms
"Like" Razorhead Films on Facebook

Thanks!



Very funny!



Brilliant!


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RE: HERZOG: THE WRATH OF KLAUS - 19/4/2012 12:24:43 PM   
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Thanks!

I've been watching your avatar for several hours btw.


I've actually had on my mind recently that its about time we had a Kinski biopic. Directed by Nick Refn and starring Michael Fassbender (who looks similar and is half German too) as the man himself.

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RE: HERZOG: THE WRATH OF KLAUS - 19/4/2012 2:54:59 PM   
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Surely Gary Busey was born to play Kinski :)

But yeah I'm sure Fassbender would do a good job although I still have my fingers crossed that he will be the pick to be the next Bond after Craig.



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Music Vid - 23/4/2012 7:48:43 PM   
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Long time, no post.

Anyways. Here to shamelessly pimp a new music video that I directed.

Not for everyones taste but 8 minutes of pure family entertainment.

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RE: Music Vid - 23/4/2012 9:29:28 PM   
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I have been working on own creation in recent weeks.
This is a project that was originally a comic about 10 years ago but as a monthly comic book takes far too much work for very little pay, I had to stop doing it.

A decade can make all the difference and now I am cooking up something a little more cinematic.
I actually plan on making some animated cinematic and just produce many cinematic illustrations from various key points in the story.

Here is is very first bit of art for it.



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RE: Music Vid - 15/5/2012 5:16:36 PM   
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I just started crowd funding for my latest project! I don't post nearly enough on here to expect people to contribute but, if you like, take a peek and share it with your friends!

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RE: Copyright in short film - 24/7/2012 4:16:06 PM   
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Quick question for those in the know. I've in the midst of pre-production on my latest short and there's a sequence where we pan around the main character's bedroom. My questions is: If we see certain toys / figurines, posters, etc will that cause copyright issues?

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RE: Copyright in short film - 24/7/2012 7:55:42 PM   
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I know the posters will. Not sure about the toys. I would imagine so as it's image copyright.

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RE: Copyright in short film - 24/7/2012 9:56:12 PM   
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Is it different in film? That seems unfair. Taking photos of things you own eg for Ebay doesn't come under that, even if it happens to be a figurine or a poster. 

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RE: Copyright in short film - 25/7/2012 9:24:16 AM   
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I'm hearing conflicting things now. One of my friends seems to think there's an incidental policy. For example, the way he describes it, if in the background of a shot, there's a poster on the wall of Pulp Fiction in a guy's room then that's fine it's just incidental, it's just there. But if you have a shot focusing in on a particular toy for example then that's copyright infringement. Or so he reckons... well confused now.

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RE: Copyright in short film - 25/7/2012 10:33:11 AM   
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I'm hearing conflicting things now. One of my friends seems to think there's an incidental policy. For example, the way he describes it, if in the background of a shot, there's a poster on the wall of Pulp Fiction in a guy's room then that's fine it's just incidental, it's just there. But if you have a shot focusing in on a particular toy for example then that's copyright infringement. Or so he reckons... well confused now.


Incidental inclusion is a defence whereby something the film-maker shoots has unlicensed copyright material in it, and he had no real control over whether it was there. For example a film-maker shoots footage in the street and a there is a billboard with copyright material in the background. As long as they don't linger on it as a focal point they'll probably be ok.

Of course it could always be argued that as you had the choice of where to shoot and what camera angle you used that there was some element of control. It is really mostly applicable for things like documentaries and news reports rather than dramatic works.

If it a set or dressed location over which you can exercise control, as in the bedroom you are talking about, the defence is far less likely to stand up.

You should also consider that the law on copyright varies around the world and if you plan on distributing the film outside the UK that just because you are ok under UK law doesn't mean you can't be stung under foreign law.

It is at best a murky area of law and you'd really need proper legal advice on this to be really safe. As I'm no expert on this area and in any case not a lawyer, anything I write on this is my personal opinion and as such is not to be relied upon.

But the safest policy as I see it is to avoid all copyright works unless they are cleared with the rights holder, especially when dealing with it on a commercial basis.

Here is the relevent section from Channel 4's guidance manual.

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RE: Copyright in short film - 25/7/2012 10:37:05 AM   
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Isn't there some kind of umbrella film-maker support body - possibly the BFi now the UKFC is gone - that provides this kind of advice to young and new film-makers and how on to address any issues arising ? I'd guess this is a pretty common question? 

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RE: Copyright in short film - 26/7/2012 8:37:35 AM   
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Cheers for the info guys. Still really of two minds though as it would look so odd not to have anything in this guy's room. I'd imagine then under the same law that books and dvds would also be copyright infringement...

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RE: Copyright in short film - 26/7/2012 8:50:58 AM   
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Quick question for those in the know. I've in the midst of pre-production on my latest short and there's a sequence where we pan around the main character's bedroom. My questions is: If we see certain toys / figurines, posters, etc will that cause copyright issues?


I studied this briefly in college, so I'm not exactly some kind of expert, but my understanding is the posters will possibly cause problems, but I don't think the toys will unless they're branded by a name or logo that's visible. I think the main thing is if you're making money from the film. If it just goes out online and nothing else, I don't see there being much of a problem (millions of people do this every day), but if you're actually distributing or monetising it, that's when issues can crop up. My lecturers never really made it that clear on what you can and can't do, it always seems to be a bit random. If you want to be absolutely, 100% safe, you could just try contacting the companies responsible for said posters and toys.

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