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RE: Lizard's Happening - 14/1/2011 6:29:52 PM   
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So long as its a good film who gives a shit ?

If it bombs or ends up being shit then fine.

Personally im not too bothered about the re-boot, as much as I enjoyed Raimi's take on Spiderman he only nailed the 1 out of 3 for me, obviously thats Spiderman 2. The first is a okay, decent origin tale nothing more. And the third has some great action but is a bit of a mess. I agree with an earlier post that I too find Garfield and Stone to be far more engaging leads.

I'll reserve judment for when I see it.

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 15/1/2011 1:32:01 PM   
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As for Raimi continuing the series I think it was time for a change - I see his films as odes to the 60s comics run by Lee, Kirby et al


Ditko, surely? Kirby didn't have a vast amount to do with Spider-Man, though I believe he did draw the iconic cover to the Amazing Fantasy #15:

[image]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20050930152754/marveldatabase/images/thumb/6/6c/Amazing_Fantasy_Vol_1_15.jpg/300px-Amazing_Fantasy_Vol_1_15.jpg[/image]




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Skinny Spider - 17/1/2011 3:00:31 PM   
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even when he's being influenced by an evil alien symbiote he's so inherently decent and kind his idea of dark behaviour is dancing and acting in a goofy manner.


This. I'm still amazed that people and critics didn't pick up on this point on its release. Being a prat is about as 'evil' as Peter can manage. It's a missed opportunity sadly admitted but Spider-man 3 was still an enjoyable brainless blockbuster.

In their Empire interview I recall the Sony chiefs' mention of the James Bond series. I think it's their intention now to keep Parker as a kid that never ages and the stories as less episodic (they have after all picked a new villain. This will go ok for me if, like others on the board have already stated, they don't go the whole hog with an origin story.

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 17/1/2011 4:10:14 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Marwood

As for Raimi continuing the series I think it was time for a change - I see his films as odes to the 60s comics run by Lee, Kirby et al


Ditko, surely? Kirby didn't have a vast amount to do with Spider-Man, though I believe he did draw the iconic cover to the Amazing Fantasy #15:

[image]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20050930152754/marveldatabase/images/thumb/6/6c/Amazing_Fantasy_Vol_1_15.jpg/300px-Amazing_Fantasy_Vol_1_15.jpg[/image]





Yep you're right, whenever I think of the 60s runs of Marvel characters it's usually Kirby that springs to mind because of his association with them. I think he had a hand in the creation of Spidey and rendered his first couple of appearances but when the character was given a monthly series Lee drafted Ditko in for it.

Macavity's note about the James Bond comparison is an interesting idea actually that would justify a reboot of sorts (change of cast, change of approach depending on the time it was made) every few films in, I do recall the Bond thing being mentioned before too but I took it to mean that they saw Spidey as a series that would endure for a long, long time - I don't remember them getting specific about how though.

If they took that approach then it does throw the decision in a new light. Damn, maybe I've been too harsh on Sony.



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RE: Lizard's Happening - 17/1/2011 4:26:24 PM   
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Emma Stone confirmed last night on the red carpet at the Golden Globes that Spidey's webbing is from the Mechanical webshooters, not natural.

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 18/1/2011 4:38:50 PM   
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When watching the Globes couldn't thathom out who Downey Jr was talking about when he said hello to Emma untill he read out the nominations she sure had me fooled I couldn't recognise her as a blonde.

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 19/1/2011 9:36:13 AM   
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Link from Superhero hype on filming in LA, bit of a warning, there is just a hint of Nicholas Hammond about it all 

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/113976-footage-from-the-spider-man-set


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RE: Lizard's Happening - 19/1/2011 10:23:07 AM   
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IGN is reporting that the reason no-one has yet to be cast as J. Jonah Jameson is because he's not in the film.

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 19/1/2011 10:26:34 AM   
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IGN is reporting that the reason no-one has yet to be cast as J. Jonah Jameson is because he's not in the film.


I read that too, seems either a brave or strange decision, as are many choices on this film, not sure it's a wise one NOT having him in the film.

I just think they want every connection with previous Raimi films severed.

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 19/1/2011 10:43:44 AM   
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Suppose it depends on the story too.

It would be a shame not to see Peter there at all but I'd rather see the Bugle and it's staff feature for a story related reason rather than be shoehorned in - there's too many instances of filmmakers doing winks and nods to the comics in the film adaptations which ultimately just make the films too busy or just do the characters/settings disservice. See the X-Men films (particularly 3 and Wolverine) in terms of cameos and throwaway scenes which just end up being distracting or worthless.

Plus they'll have a job replacing the magnificent JK Simmons - that's a bigger challenge than finding the new Peter Parker imo

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 19/1/2011 12:58:42 PM   
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I presume this will be completely set in high school then if there's no Bugle.

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Eye Spy(der) - 19/1/2011 4:07:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JIm R
Link from Superhero hype on filming in LA, bit of a warning, there is just a hint of Nicholas Hammond about it all 
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/113976-footage-from-the-spider-man-set


Damn. You're right.



I was hoping they'd go the wide-eyed look.

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RE: Eye Spy(der) - 26/1/2011 3:47:46 PM   
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There's some new pics on aintitcool. Hmm, is it just me or has Garfield got an enormous head?

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 27/1/2011 4:42:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Marwood

Suppose it depends on the story too.

It would be a shame not to see Peter there at all but I'd rather see the Bugle and it's staff feature for a story related reason rather than be shoehorned in - there's too many instances of filmmakers doing winks and nods to the comics in the film adaptations which ultimately just make the films too busy or just do the characters/settings disservice. See the X-Men films (particularly 3 and Wolverine) in terms of cameos and throwaway scenes which just end up being distracting or worthless.

Plus they'll have a job replacing the magnificent JK Simmons - that's a bigger challenge than finding the new Peter Parker imo


So true! I love JK Simmons as J.Jonah Jameson. "Meat - i'll give ya a big basket of meat!". Genius..........

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 31/1/2011 2:50:00 PM   
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I think Mark Wahlberg should've been cast as a spider, man.

As for the moment of Peter Parker being bit, will it be a radioactive spider or a genetically engineered one? I prefer the latter.


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RE: Lizard's Happening - 31/1/2011 9:47:19 PM   
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Just stumbled across these, dunno how I feel bout the silver on the feet but I'll wait to see it in action to make my full judgement

http://collider.com/spider-man-reboot-set-video-images/73623/

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 1/2/2011 11:22:12 AM   
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I think Mark Wahlberg should've been cast as a spider, man.

As for the moment of Peter Parker being bit, will it be a radioactive spider or a genetically engineered one? I prefer the latter.



Please tell me this is a joke! Not only is he waaaaay to old, he's a fucking terrible actor too!! ......In my opinion of course!!

I fucking hate Mark Whalberg!

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 1/2/2011 11:26:27 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

I think Mark Wahlberg should've been cast as a spider, man.

As for the moment of Peter Parker being bit, will it be a radioactive spider or a genetically engineered one? I prefer the latter.



Please tell me this is a joke! Not only is he waaaaay to old, he's a fucking terrible actor too!! ......In my opinion of course!!

I fucking hate Mark Whalberg!


He's given brilliant performances in The Fighter, The Other Guys, The Departed and Boogie Nights.



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RE: Lizard's Happening - 1/2/2011 11:26:27 AM   
JIm R

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: lukeyboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

I think Mark Wahlberg should've been cast as a spider, man.

As for the moment of Peter Parker being bit, will it be a radioactive spider or a genetically engineered one? I prefer the latter.



Please tell me this is a joke! Not only is he waaaaay to old, he's a fucking terrible actor too!! ......In my opinion of course!!

I fucking hate Mark Whalberg!


Joke Lukey, don't worry, note the comma after spider...... it's a take on the way Wharlberg pronounces his words (I think that's the joke anyway )

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 1/2/2011 1:13:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JIm R

quote:

ORIGINAL: lukeyboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

I think Mark Wahlberg should've been cast as a spider, man.

As for the moment of Peter Parker being bit, will it be a radioactive spider or a genetically engineered one? I prefer the latter.



Please tell me this is a joke! Not only is he waaaaay to old, he's a fucking terrible actor too!! ......In my opinion of course!!

I fucking hate Mark Whalberg!


Joke Lukey, don't worry, note the comma after spider...... it's a take on the way Wharlberg pronounces his words (I think that's the joke anyway )


Thank christ for that! And i get it now - the Boston accent n'all.........i'm a bit slow today!

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 1/2/2011 1:23:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lukeyboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

I think Mark Wahlberg should've been cast as a spider, man.

As for the moment of Peter Parker being bit, will it be a radioactive spider or a genetically engineered one? I prefer the latter.



Please tell me this is a joke! Not only is he waaaaay to old, he's a fucking terrible actor too!! ......In my opinion of course!!

I fucking hate Mark Whalberg!


He's given brilliant performances in The Fighter, The Other Guys, The Departed and Boogie Nights.




Haven't seen The Othe Guys or The Fighter - but the latter looks like it could be the one Whalberg film i like as it does admittedly look good. Boogie Nights was a good film but that was more down to the supporting cast, script and direction and not very much at all to do with Mark Whalberg. And as for The Departed,...well, I simply can't understand how anyone could say that Whalberg was even passable in it. He was lazy in his delivery, unfunny and unlikeable and was made to look like the amateur he is by everyone he had screentime with. There - i said it. Rant over

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 1/2/2011 4:03:19 PM   
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Just stumbled across these, dunno how I feel bout the silver on the feet but I'll wait to see it in action to make my full judgement

http://collider.com/spider-man-reboot-set-video-images/73623/


Oh.   Yikes.  Is it too late to sort the cyclist styling on that costume?

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 1/2/2011 4:14:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lukeyboy


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ORIGINAL: vad3r


quote:

ORIGINAL: lukeyboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

I think Mark Wahlberg should've been cast as a spider, man.

As for the moment of Peter Parker being bit, will it be a radioactive spider or a genetically engineered one? I prefer the latter.



Please tell me this is a joke! Not only is he waaaaay to old, he's a fucking terrible actor too!! ......In my opinion of course!!

I fucking hate Mark Whalberg!


He's given brilliant performances in The Fighter, The Other Guys, The Departed and Boogie Nights.




Haven't seen The Othe Guys or The Fighter - but the latter looks like it could be the one Whalberg film i like as it does admittedly look good. Boogie Nights was a good film but that was more down to the supporting cast, script and direction and not very much at all to do with Mark Whalberg. And as for The Departed,...well, I simply can't understand how anyone could say that Whalberg was even passable in it. He was lazy in his delivery, unfunny and unlikeable and was made to look like the amateur he is by everyone he had screentime with. There - i said it. Rant over



Check out The Other Guys, it's got a brilliant cast and he's hilarious in it

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 4/2/2011 6:10:27 PM   
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I don't know if they already been posted.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1353626/Has-new-Spiderman-Andrew-Garfield-got-double-Stuntmans-moves-lleave-little-imagination.html

I don't like the idea they are rebooting the series, however they could at least stick to the outfit used in the previous three. It's perfect but the new one is horrible. Even Kick Ass's outfit is better. The only changes they needed to be made were to use darker reds and blue.

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 4/2/2011 8:53:32 PM   
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I don't know if they already been posted.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1353626/Has-new-Spiderman-Andrew-Garfield-got-double-Stuntmans-moves-lleave-little-imagination.html

I don't like the idea they are rebooting the series, however they could at least stick to the outfit used in the previous three. It's perfect but the new one is horrible. Even Kick Ass's outfit is better. The only changes they needed to be made were to use darker reds and blue.



As I said earlier in thread, looks like the 70's Nicholas Hammond version which was understandable given budget available for a tv series in 1978 but this is ridiculous when you consider how much money is available.

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Spider Style - 7/2/2011 2:15:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JIm R

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I don't know if they already been posted.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1353626/Has-new-Spiderman-Andrew-Garfield-got-double-Stuntmans-moves-lleave-little-imagination.html

I don't like the idea they are rebooting the series, however they could at least stick to the outfit used in the previous three. It's perfect but the new one is horrible. Even Kick Ass's outfit is better. The only changes they needed to be made were to use darker reds and blue.



As I said earlier in thread, looks like the 70's Nicholas Hammond version which was understandable given budget available for a tv series in 1978 but this is ridiculous when you consider how much money is available.



I am suprised that after the pretty hipster/60s stylish 500 Days of Summer Webb has gone for such a naff looking variation on the suit. The vintage suit in the Raimi trilogy was better than this. I'm sure it'll get sorted in post-production (fingers crossed).

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 7/2/2011 3:28:18 PM   
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quote:

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I think Mark Wahlberg should've been cast as a spider, man.

As for the moment of Peter Parker being bit, will it be a radioactive spider or a genetically engineered one? I prefer the latter.



Please tell me this is a joke! Not only is he waaaaay to old, he's a fucking terrible actor too!! ......In my opinion of course!!

I fucking hate Mark Whalberg!


He's given brilliant performances in The Fighter, The Other Guys, The Departed and Boogie Nights.




Haven't seen The Fighter but it looks like he's giving his standard earnest performance and the supporting cast seem to being outshining him at every turn, with you on The Other Guys - he's actually got some good comedy moves, The Departed...he was ok but hardly award worthy and how in hell did he get an Oscar nom over anyone else in that film anyway?, Boogie Nights had a great ensemble but admittedly he did a very good job.

Nah, when it comes to Mark he's very uneven and often just "meh", I think he struggles as a leading man and fits more comfortably in an ensemble. Plus whenever he pops up in blockbuster fare he either downplays to the point of being unconscious or becomes a walking cliche "badass" - neither of which really help his case.

Anyway back to the suit I much prefer the "classic" used in Raimi's films but I think the production team should be congratulated for trying something different for this one. It's quite similar to the Alex Ross redesign floating around when Spider-Man 1.0 was in early pre-production.

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 8/2/2011 10:07:16 PM   
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http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/114/1148445p1.html

I just don't see why they didn't try and find another actor. I read an interview with him a few months ago and I thought he seemed like a bit of a dick and not interested in the film. This just confirms my earlier thoughts.

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 10/2/2011 2:39:58 PM   
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http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/114/1148445p1.html

I just don't see why they didn't try and find another actor. I read an interview with him a few months ago and I thought he seemed like a bit of a dick and not interested in the film. This just confirms my earlier thoughts.


"My kids wanted me to do it" probably should be translated as "That new conservatory ain't gonna pay for itself!"

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RE: Lizard's Happening - 10/2/2011 2:56:09 PM   
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This is all beginning to sound and look (costume WTF !) a complete mess. I'm quite pleased in a way given the treatment Raimi and co were given by all.

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