JIm R
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That's probably the first thing that has really got me interested in this film now (cast is promising as well of course).
Still not convinced that the series needed a reboot, a sequel with a new production team and principal cast would have done the trick. Sony could have used the same trick as WB did with Batman in the 90s - Returns wasn't that well received (despite making a lot of money) and showed that Burton was taking the character in a direction which the studio (correctly I think) weren't happy with. Therefore they got a new production team and leads but kept the supporting actors (Pat Hingle as Gordon and Michael Gough as Alfred) and treated the previous films as a vague history. Ultimately that road led to Batman Forever and that other "film" by Schumacher but the idea to change the series direction was sound and could quite easily have been applied to this series too. Don't like Raimi's take on 4 and think you can do better without him? Fine, go ahead and see what happens - but why hit the reboot button? Needless.
Exactly, there is simply just no need to go 'root and branch' (too pick a well used expression), personally, Raimi was doing a fine job on the films (yes I like 3) and his 4 would have been interesting.
The costume for this looks excellent and I'm sure the film will do well, I just won't be seeing it.
It's just a quick and easy out really - same thing with Punisher and the rumoured Fantastic Four and Daredevil reboots by Fox. In those cases the series could easily be continued without the need to go through origin stories again. Punisher Warzone almost functions as a sequel or reboot except for brief flashbacks of his family's murder clearly being different to the Tom Jane film.
Although for all we know the Spider-Man reboot could well use flashback for gaining his powers, costume etc. and open where he's been active for a while and encountering his first "super villains".
Hulk I understand the reboot more (and yes it's a reboot, not a loose sequel) because Incredible was made in house by Marvel unlike the Ang Lee version (Universal Pictures fronted that one) and the decision was made during production to tie it into the larger Marvel universe with Iron Man. Batman really needed a reboot after the fourth film and the amount of time the series had been dormant.
As for Raimi continuing the series I think it was time for a change - I see his films as odes to the 60s comics run by Lee, Kirby et al which was the era he loved but tbh I preferred the 70s/80s runs for the most part so would like to see films that feel closer to them. Just as the comics change their approaches so too can the films and still be considered part of the same series. Sony making a clean break like a reboot feels like a "fuck you" to Raimi and regardless of how good his films were they made Sony a lot of money so it seems quite ingracious of them. I think one of the heads made some comment like "we wouldn't want to make a 4th film in the series without Sam" to justify the reboot option but that's weak - with a reboot they're saying "yep, forget those last 3". Dicks.
Bottom line for me is Raimi was treated like shit by Arad and the studio both over the handling of 3 (he bent over backwards to include what they requested, sidelining his own vision and then when it went tits up they let him take all the blame) and then over 4 (Heh Sam, we promise to give you full access to your thoughts on the next film, then when Sam submits his ideas, they publically go behind his back and call him allsorts and ditch his ideas publically as well) and so I will have nothing to do with this next film, I appreciate Avid Arad and Sony won't be having any lost sleep over this  , but makes me feel better  .
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