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Hostel: Part II - 25/6/2007 10:15:53 AM

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- 25/6/2007 10:16:01 AM

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i thought that this film was even better than the original...

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- 25/6/2007 10:44:12 AM

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Yeah it was better than the first, but that's like saying World War 2 was better than World War 1

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- 25/6/2007 7:05:51 PM

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Really enjoyed the first, but didn't like this one at all. Roth seems to have forgotten what made the first enjoyable. It does have a bigger budget and is gorier but that does not make for a better movie. None of the characters are likable and though the torture scenes are a little more inventive they are more comical and actually embarrassing rather then scary! A big disappointment indeed.

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RE: - 25/6/2007 7:52:00 PM

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Hu? There's already a thread for this

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RE: RE: - 25/6/2007 8:59:00 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: theoriginalcynic

Hu? There's already a thread for this

This is the main review thread for Hostel 2. The other thread will probably get locked.

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RE: RE: - 26/6/2007 3:55:44 PM

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That doesn't really make sense as the other thread seems to have more input. It seems to have been going longer. Not that I really care - lock 'em both - the films garbage

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RE: RE: - 26/6/2007 4:47:52 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: theoriginalcynic

That doesn't really make sense as the other thread seems to have more input. It seems to have been going longer. Not that I really care - lock 'em both - the films garbage

Well it dose make sense. The other thread may have been going longer but that�s because empire had not reviewed the film yet, once empire review the film the main review thread is put up.

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- 26/6/2007 8:50:53 PM

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I do agree with the review in that this is basically a remake of the first movie with three stupid girls instead of three stupid guys. I was kind of hoping Roth would take it in a different direction and actually continue the first movie instead of just retreading it (which he initially said he was going to do). That said, as a lover of horror films, I enjoyed the hell out of this. Just like the first movie, it delivered the goods on a visceral level, and I never knew that Heather Mattarazzo looked so good naked.

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I liked the first one - 28/6/2007 12:25:31 AM

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This one sucked. The premise of Hostel is a good one. Eli Roth isn't good enough to realise it in film. The most amazing thing is the lack of creativity in the violence, which lets face it, is why you go to see a movie like this. Saw 3 beats it to a pulp.

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RE: Hostel: Part II - 28/6/2007 8:13:25 PM

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SPOILERY

replace the boys from 1 with girls and youve pretty much got Hostel 2. Starts of with a lot of boring faffing around in Europe that seems to be in there just to warn Americans that Europe is dangerous. And that no one likes them.

Then the torture shit kicks in.

The first major scene is far too Hammer horror sexy vampire lesbian bloodbath nonsense that only sticks in the mind as you think how weird a girls tits look hanging upside down. The other major scene is at the end and isn't pleasant for any man to watch. And thats pretty much it.

Two major scenes for your money and very little else, not as much soft porn silliness as the first one and even the gore seems less. The two American guys who are off to do the killing do add a different dimension, but they are basic 'im up for it' 'im not, but im going along anyway' characters. And you can pretty much predict what is going to happen to them.

Most of the tension comes from you not knowing what kind of fucked up torture is going to happen next, I should imagine that on repeated viewings when you know whats coming the Hostel films are even more boring.

1/5

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RE: Hostel: Part II - 28/6/2007 8:24:30 PM

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Total films 4 star review is hillarious. Makes Roth sound like he's fuckin Hithcock.

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RE: Hostel: Part II - 28/6/2007 9:49:48 PM

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SPOILERS!!!

I thought it was a big dispointment. Roth seemed to think it's amazing to decapitate folk and the one at the end where the kids start playing football - is it supposed to be funny or just stupid? The bit where the girl was being sliced open while hanging over a naked woman was disturbing but felt like it should have belonged to a Dennis Weaver book.

It seems as if they've wasted the bigger budget or the marketing campiagn (which is one of the best of the year so far) and just assumed that all the folk who saw (sorry) the first will be rushing out to see this.

Lets see what Eli Roth comes up with next. Anything other than Hostel 3 (please not a film just full of trailers) would be a start.

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SPOILERS - 30/6/2007 2:30:03 PM

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damn this was poor

. i never saw the first but was always curious about it. Anyway there was too much setting up of the killings of the 3 female leads plus too much behind scenes access on the company. And when the killings came well only the first with the torturer getting off on slicing her victims and the penultimate killing really pushed boundaries. Also the film was trying to be funny when it just did not suit. And the less said on the ending the better...Heres hoping Captivity is better because besides Saw 4,which I hope can take this breed of horror in another direction,torture-porn/gorno(very snappy named) seems to have reached its limit especially when you start aping Hannibal Lecter...

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Hmmmmmmm - 2/7/2007 7:19:14 PM

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Predictable and spineless

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- 2/7/2007 8:07:02 PM

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Significantly raising his game, Eli Roth has crafted a sequel to die for.

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RE: - 3/7/2007 1:53:01 PM

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Eli Roth TRIED raise his game, but alas it fell short on sooooooooooo many levels. Except for the first unfortunate victim, the deaths are horribly watered down, the change of dynamics that happened in the final 15 minutes was kind of predictable, when money issues were discussed ealier, and the build up, although necessary didn't lead to a satisfactory conclusion. Yea I agree, he tried very hard, but fell harder.. in my opinion

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Gore Bore - 4/7/2007 9:39:34 PM

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As a fan of the 1st film, I was looking forward to this one, instead the highlight of the showing of this was a trailer for the Transformers movie. To say is an exact copy of the first film would be wrong as it provided some shocks, this (with the exception of the blood bath !!!!) provided nothing but a retread of nearly every 70's gore film ever made except with a budget. If this is the best the so called new king of horror can provide, it won't be long til he joins the legions of straight to DVD releases. Horror fans save your money, just glad it was Orange Wednesday!!!

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- 5/7/2007 5:12:09 PM

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Every single film magazine kisses Eli Roth's ass. He is a twat, he can't make a film, he has absolutely no talent

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RE: Gore Bore - 7/7/2007 12:08:29 AM

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BLOOD BATH!!!!!! Sure... How did THAT escape me.... Well done

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Could have been a lot better! - 7/7/2007 4:35:13 PM

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Hostel Part II is better written and directed than it's predecessor but it has lost most of it's impact to shock, there are far too many "torture porn" films that have recently come out eg Saw sequels, Captivity, Vacancy, and Paradise Lost.
Roth knows the genre there are refrences to Last House on The Left and Cannibal Holocuast, but Roth has nothing new to say he has basically remade the first film only with a bigger budget and on a grander scale.
The acting is pretty decent,Heather Mattarazzo deilver's the best perfomance and plays the most sympatehtic character but Roth decides to kill her off within the first half hour.
Overall it's not better than the orginal, but just as good as it.
3/5

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Very poor. - 8/7/2007 11:56:35 PM

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When Hostel came out, I was looking forward to it but was very disappointed. Therefore, I wasn't looking forward to this, the sequel. I expected this to be similar to the first, and on that note it didn't disappoint me. I just found it rubbish again.
Not scary, not really that gory, with characters that were less interesting than the ones they had in the first film.

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Hostel 2 - 10/7/2007 6:58:19 PM

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This was amazing. I liked the first but this was loads better on every levell. It was gory, funny and scary. Its also a lot better now that it goes into a lot more detail into who the people are who run the torture chambers. Its also got a nice twist into character change. Like the first its not for the squemish but horror fans will love it.

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The nasty side of life - how original!! - 11/7/2007 3:24:15 PM

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The first Hostel was enough and at least had some closure to a sadistic tale. But why on earth we have to have more of this awful and disturbing concept I don't know. Oh wait a minute I know, Mr Roth has no talent and someone said I'll give you money to make a sequel. A nasty and horrible idea that is pointless to watch. If you enjoy this movie then you should be locked up - you are sick!!! Humanity is not perfect but not even animals have these kinds of ideas on how to make someone else suffer. Cabin Fever was a good horror and Hostel should have been a one off. But a sequel to examine the depraved individuals involved was pointless. If you want to watch this download it and avoid giving Mr Roth any money for making such vile pointless cinema.

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The nasty side of life - how original!! - 11/7/2007 3:24:17 PM

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C'mon Roth - give us something good - 16/7/2007 8:40:24 AM

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The film chooses to pick up straight after the where the first ends, with all the loose ends of the first film being tied up, before going onto to introduce the new plot. Which is... 3 backpackers going to Slovekia and being slaughtered. Same storyline, different sex (this time the backpackers are girls), and despite unorginality, sometimes this type of thing can work well in horrors. For the first half of the film, it almost does work with the characters and turns of events allowing a fresh and different way of being lured into the factory. Plus the film chooses to focus on the way the company works, with the bidding, organisition of the murders and other aspects acting as a decent enough subplot.

However, within 40 minutes it fallen into the trap of just being a film of women running, screaming and being slaughtered senselessly, and with indifference from the audience to their fate. Even the super violent gore has become expected and commonplace, so as the slaughters become a bit dull (with the exception of a scene which all the blokes watching it will have to cross their legs out).

You get the sense with Roth he has a lot to offer as a director, and needs to stretch himself a little (stop relying on formulaic step ups), and especially the scenes with the kids protray a really dark humour which needs to be at the forefront of a film like this if it wants to earn any respect from the critics or the audience.

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RE: C'mon Roth - give us something good - 22/10/2007 12:19:52 PM

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Not very good at all. The best part was the deleted scene with our own Chris Hewitt claiming he'd produced Hostel (made me chuckle that did

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Other than that, the films itself was rubbish. I quite like the behind the scenes of the torturers, the bakcstory of the compnay behind it all but the ending was so predictable Roth needs slapping for it.
After Hostel and Cabin Fever, and now this, I'm even more gutted he's been given the excellent book that was Cell to butcher.
Saying that it was an improvement on the first one which really was dire with a capital D.
That was a 1 star movie, Empire got this right at 2 IMO.

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To me this isn't scary.... - 1/11/2007 11:36:20 AM

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its just sick. This Eli Roth actually disturbs me, serioulsy. Who comes up with this CRAP. Its sick, ridiculous stuff and doesn't deserve to be included in the horror genre. Its not Horror its Horrific, not so much the gore i can handle that but the actually fact that it managed to get into all the cinemas and make a profit. I hope to god that he doesn't make another one, other wise will be tempted to send him to a hostal. Grrrrrrrrrr

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RE: - 3/11/2007 1:30:50 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: willchadwick

Every single film magazine kisses Eli Roth's ass. He is a twat, he can't make a film, he has absolutely no talent

took the words straight out of ma mouth! he should be a porn movie director hed be good at that but makin great movies?......not for him

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RE: RE: - 3/11/2007 6:14:35 PM

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