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restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 1:52:44 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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if you could restart a franchise that has either died, or been put to bed (perhaps out of an unsuccesful last installment) what would it be and who would you pick to direct it? Even though he has Hulk duties now, i think Louis Letterier would be a great choice for a new Blade movie. It wouldn't have to necessarily be with Snipes, but i think he'd make a real kickass Blade installment. Alernatively, i'd love to see Guillermo Del Toro do a new League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie, that would be awesome.

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 2:10:22 PM   
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Predator vs Ewoks

"Wickets orders were to go in and get more fruit, then he disappeared!"

"He didn't disappear, he was skinned alive..."

Think about it.

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 2:33:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chewbacasnapsak

Predator vs Ewoks

"Wickets orders were to go in and get more fruit, then he disappeared!"

"He didn't disappear, he was skinned alive..."

Think about it.


Yes. Oh, yes............now's that would be the greatest film, ever, just too see ewoks skinned alive..............

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 2:35:04 PM   
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Bring back the roaring Shark

Jaws: The Revenge is a much aligned classic...it had it all...roaring sharks, reason defying exploding sharks and flashbacks from the sharks point of view (and lets not forget a major character who dies but then reappears again after the death of the shark)

Genius...we want a sequel now...

Jaws: Madder than ever....

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 2:43:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Deviation

quote:

ORIGINAL: chewbacasnapsak

Predator vs Ewoks

"Wickets orders were to go in and get more fruit, then he disappeared!"

"He didn't disappear, he was skinned alive..."

Think about it.


Yes. Oh, yes............now's that would be the greatest film, ever, just too see ewoks skinned alive..............


you could pit the Predator against anyone really.

Predator vs Gump

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 2:52:06 PM   
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From my 'Let's Reboot A Franchise' Thread in Favorite Films.


2007 is meant to be the year of the three-quel with every big franchise churning out yet another sequel - Spider-man, Shrek, Pirates, Bourne etc

BUT another type of franchise flick has entered the sequel zeitgeist recently, and often it has proven to be the most invigorating option for many a tired series: the prequel or the "reboot".

These "begins" style films seek to trim the excess fat that inevitably builds up on franchises, while also revisiting the origins of a character — often to great effect. Batman Begins, Casino Royale and the upcoming and highly anticipated Star Trek redux are but a few examples of this phenomenon.

And yet, despite the many prequels that have already been made in recent years, there are still so many other franchises that have grown old and tired, but still remain iconic and immensely popular, and that could truly use the "begins" treatment for a good dose of reinvigoration. Here are some franchise ideas but which series do you think need a brand spanking new prequel, rather than just another weary sequel.

Mad Max

Lowdown: Born in the wasteland of indie Australian filmmaking of the '80s, the Mad Max trilogy evolved from a successful if localized hit with its first entry into a crossover success, the more polished and visceral The Road Warrior, and finally into the bloated and unnecessary finale (with Tina Turner!), Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome.

Series Status: Director George Miller has attempted several times to make a fourth Mad Max film, with rumored plot points including a son for Max as well as the hero's death. Most recently, the outbreak of the Iraq war was said to be the reason for the film being cancelled (shooting was to have taken place in the region), but really, does anyone actually believe that post-Passion of the Christ big-time director Mel Gibson would return to this series anyway?



How to Reboot: The enigma of the Mad Max films was that they all took place after the apocalypse that had led the remnants of mankind to its penchant for wearing leather and tooling around the Wasteland looking for "gazzoline." Certainly, a "begins" prequel could show us the world-ending event itself, even if only in a prologue, and then perhaps detail Max and his family's tragic origins more directly against the backdrop of the immediate post-apocalypse — something that budget just didn't allow on the original film.

Casting, 21st Century Style: With Gibson out, the most logical choice to strap on the sawed-off shotgun as Max would be Mel's fellow Aussie and current hot young star Heath Ledger, of course.


The Terminator

Lowdown: Prior to James Cameron's release of The Terminator in 1984, the filmmaker's only previous credit as a director was Piranha: Part Two — The Spawning. So who could have expected the marvels of this sci-fi actioner: the killer cyborgs, the time-traveling hero, the romance — not to mention the cheese of the '80s. Ditto for the 1991 sequel, T2: Judgment Day, which amped up all of the above (less the feathered hair) with Cameron's increasingly refined technically savvy. But what a waste the long-awaited Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines was; with Cameron out of the picture, the result was nothing but a rehash of the earlier films — only with none of the amazement of those modern classics.

Series Status: A Terminator 4 is said to be in the works, while a pilot for a potential Fox TV show called The Sarah Connor Chronicles is being produced with Lena Headey (300) in the lead role and Thomas Dekker (Heroes) playing the young John Connor. The show sounds interesting — it returns to the era after T2, when Connor was a 15-year-old kid, rather than a wimpy 28-year-old Nick Stahl. But fears of a "terminator of the week" premise have fans raising their collective cyborg eyebrow.




How to Reboot: With series star Arnold Schwarzenegger firmly entrenched in the world of politics now, it seems unlikely that he would ever return to the film series anyway, so why not restart the entire franchise? Picture this: The film opens in the war-ravaged aftermath of the supercomputer Skynet's nuclear attack. Kyle Reese, a low-level foot soldier in the human resistance against machines, is summoned by the legendary warrior John Connor. He must travel back in time on a super-secret mission, but a variety of Terminator models are likely to follow him into the past — T-800s, T-1000s and T-Xs. You can see the poster now: Only in the past will Kyle Reese discover … his destiny. Of course, Reese is the great, if sorta forgotten, character from the first film played by Michael Biehn, but wouldn't it be awesome if he finally got to run the franchise his way and not have to rely on little old Sarah — or worse, die?

Casting, 21st Century Style: Why not cash in on the geek casting for this one and hire Battlestar Galactica's Jamie Bamber (Apollo) or Tahmoh Penikett (Helo) to play Reese?


Jurassic Park

Lowdown: Ho-hum. A series that, despite its popularity, never really, truly had any bite, the Jurassic Park films began ambitiously enough with Steven Spielberg directing the big-budget version of the Michael Crichton book about rampaging dinosaurs in the modern world. Produced in 1993 when CGI was just kicking into gear, the sight of a giant T-Rex or a quick-footed Velociraptor was amazing enough, though Spielberg's aversion to blood and his tendency towards triteness in his "spectacle" pictures was always a disappointment for some fans. The Lost World: Jurassic Park in 1997 was more of the same, and is generally considered a low point in the director's oeuvre, while the helming reigns of Jurassic Park III were passed on to former Lucasfilm employee Joe Johnston. Though entertaining in their own way, none of the films have ever quite hit the heights that one might expect from a modern dinosaurs-run-amuck movie.

Series Status: Johnston is reportedly set to direct a fourth film in the series in 2007, with the third film's near-$200 million gross certainly proving the franchise's viability. Spielberg would of course executive-produce the project if it happens, as he did on part three, so this latest film in the series certainly does not seem fated to upend the status quo in any way, unfortunately. Freakin' Laura Dern will probably even show up at some point.




How to Reboot: Blood! Gore! And more blood! Audiences want to see giant dinosaurs for one reason: To watch them tear not only each other apart, but hopefully lots of humans too. The Jurassic Park films so far have been very soft in this regard, insisting on featuring cute kids who invariably survive their adventures against vicious, prehistoric beasts. Perhaps the Jurassic reboot should go back to the earliest days of the scientific program that creates these dinosaurs, when the technology wasn't yet perfected and strange hybrid creatures were being inadvertently grown from DNA strands: a T-Rex Brachiosaurus, for example. Eat you or stomp on you, what's the difference? As long as there's blood…

Casting, 21st Century Style: Though Peter Jackson and his Weta Workshop certainly proved their ability when it came to creating dinos in King Kong, perhaps they'd best be put to use in a Jurassic Park prequel — complete with Kong-style bug pit.

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 3:00:57 PM   
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I'd love to see Highlander re-launched. I think the concept behind the film is brilliant but the sequels are amongst the worst pieces of rubbish ever created and to be honest the original leaves a bit to be desired. But even through dodgy casting, wonky accents, abysmal special fx and sequals that would embarrass Ed Wood i can see potential.

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 3:02:35 PM   
Timon


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quote:

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I'd love to see Highlander re-launched. I think the concept behind the film is brilliant but the sequels are amongst the worst pieces of rubbish ever created and to be honest the original leaves a bit to be desired. But even through dodgy casting, wonky accents, abysmal special fx and sequals that would embarrass Ed Wood i can see potential.


They could get Thomas Jane as McCleod - he practically looks identical to Christopher Lambert but 10x the acting ability.

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 3:16:28 PM   
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I think its high time some english director stepped up and redid 'constatine' as it was met to be hellblazer!
To all those who aint familiar to how far the film is from source.... constantine is liverpoolian blonde haired trenchcoat wearing anti hero. (doesnt sound like keanu reeves at all does it?)

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 3:51:02 PM   
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Good call on Mad Max Timon though I could see Russel Crowe taking on the role of Max.

But to remake The Terminator or Jurrasic Park?-Heresy.

Both are classic films and aside from a few dodgy effects in Terminator 1 would not benefit from a remake in any case.




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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 4:01:22 PM   
Timon


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I don't propose remaking T1 but a prequel sort where Connor, Reese and the Resistance storm Skynet and smash those metal bastards. It can end with Reese stepping into the time portal to follow the Terminator back to 1984 and saying goodbye to his friend (and not that he knows it, his son).

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 4:04:51 PM   
Deviation


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

I don't propose remaking T1 but a prequel sort where Connor, Reese and the Resistance storm Skynet and smash those metal bastards. It can end with Reese stepping into the time portal to follow the Terminator back to 1984 and saying goodbye to his friend (and not that he knows it, his son).


That is a very good proposal. It is also great because you can't really call it a prequel niether a sequel.

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 4:20:16 PM   
JagLover

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

I don't propose remaking T1 but a prequel sort where Connor, Reese and the Resistance storm Skynet and smash those metal bastards. It can end with Reese stepping into the time portal to follow the Terminator back to 1984 and saying goodbye to his friend (and not that he knows it, his son).


Oh that would make sense.

That's not really revisting the franchise though (as in Batman Begins etc) but is a sequel to Terminator 3.

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 4:20:55 PM   
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Police Academy!!!

Maybe a third Airplane film?


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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 4:38:36 PM   
Wilbert


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Young Sherlock Holmes.
It was pretty decent (apart from the scene where Watson had an hallucination of being attacked by cakes) and directed by Barry Levinson, if memory serves.

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 4:41:33 PM   
Timon


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wilbert

Young Sherlock Holmes.
It was pretty decent (apart from the scene where Watson had an hallucination of being attacked by cakes) and directed by Barry Levinson, if memory serves.


Clicky click my friend

Anyway, I read Neil Marshall (Dog Soldiers, The Descent) was going to resurrect the Holmes franchise.

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 6:14:40 PM   
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i would do a movie based on Hannibal (not the brain munching guy) i love historical epics and the story of Hannibal's war against the Roman's is crying out for a big screen remake as the original  movie is nearly 50 years old

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 6:22:04 PM   
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A fourth Austin Powers movie. Directed by Mchael Mann with a huge budget and with special effects by WETA.

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 8:35:20 PM   
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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 8:37:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rabidhoax

I think its high time some english director stepped up and redid 'constatine' as it was met to be hellblazer!
To all those who aint familiar to how far the film is from source.... constantine is liverpoolian blonde haired trenchcoat wearing anti hero. (doesnt sound like keanu reeves at all does it?)


Pual Bettany would have been perfect casting for the role of John Constatine in my opinion.




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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 8:44:47 PM   
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A fourth Austin Powers movie. Directed by Mchael Mann with a huge budget and with special effects by WETA.


I'd love to see a TV series based on the two guys who played the young Powers and Dr. Evil when they were at boarding school together.

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 8:48:41 PM   
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Critters. Get someone like James Gunn (Slither) to do another one.

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 9:17:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chewbacasnapsak

Predator vs Ewoks



Is it merely a coincidence that you nicked the idea I posted a week ago?  

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RE: restart a franchise - 22/6/2007 9:43:30 PM   
chewbacasnapsak


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sorry it is a coincidence, i actually intended to modify the Kramer Vs Predator joke from Family Guy.

I honestly didn't see your post, was it any good?

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RE: restart a franchise - 24/6/2007 2:51:33 PM   
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Judge Dredd directed by Paul Verhoeven

X-Men 4 written and directed by Joss Whedon

Robocop 4 directed by the Waschowski Brothers

oooooooooh yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

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RE: restart a franchise - 25/6/2007 9:38:16 AM   
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RE: restart a franchise - 25/6/2007 11:21:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lloyddobler

Judge Dredd directed by Paul Verhoeven

X-Men 4 written and directed by Joss Whedon

Robocop 4 directed by the Waschowski Brothers

oooooooooh yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

I fully endorse these excelent choices and second the;

oooooooooh yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

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RE: restart a franchise - 25/6/2007 11:47:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Timon


The Terminator





Casting, 21st Century Style: Why not cash in on the geek casting for this one and hire Battlestar Galactica's Jamie Bamber (Apollo) or Tahmoh Penikett (Helo) to play Reese?


Not that The Terminator needs a reboot, but Jamie Bamber would be an excellent choice for Kyle Reese. Tahmog Penikett, however, would not be. He's the actor behind the worst character in Battlestar Galactica, and has a very annoying walk!


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RE: restart a franchise - 25/6/2007 1:09:58 PM   
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With an actual budget for effects and maybe some decent actors and a good script this would be a perfect candidate for a reboot!

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RE: restart a franchise - 25/6/2007 2:35:50 PM   
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Return of the Jedi.... or a special edition erasing ewoks and reinserting wookies.... im sure they could do that..... or just remake it entirely.... (the only gripe i have with this film cause i actually find luke skywalkers wiping out jabbas henchmen to really be the defining what it is to be a jedi moment... etc )

Maybe Blade Runner possibly... i know id get shot but ... i think it could do with an update in some sence, i donno why to tbh cause i love the visuals and everything about it....


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