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RE: Brokeback Mountain - 22/2/2006 11:05:44 AM   
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but the current hype over the movie has me really angry


It's so weird how so much love for a movie you thought was 'okay' or didn't think much of at all, makes you angry and hate the movie. The same has happened to me with Munich and Walk The Line - fine movies, but the fact they are being loved by so many, and being nominated for Best Picture Oscars, makes me really angry for some reason, and thus makes me dislike the films even more.


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RE: Brokeback Mountain - 22/2/2006 6:15:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: riversbend

Sway, on the contrary, I don't think you should be criticised for not liking a film, though I can see why you might think you would be.  However, in complete sentences, with readable spelling, clear reasoning and a non-vitriolic argument, criticism is completely acceptable.  It's the borderline homophobic, illiterate rants that so many people are taking issue with.

I value having another opinion, and though you haven't convinced me that Brokeback is not wonderful, you have certainly convinced me to go and see New World! 



I'd completely agree - it wasn't criticism as such that concerned me, it was probably more of an unjustified attack that worried me! For the most part, people on the forums here appreciate the civil discussion and differing opinions of others, but there can sometimes be a few who let the side down.

I think my other concern was that, as I mentioned in that last post, I'm certainly not a complete film buff. While I can appreciate films for a number of reasons there are clearly a lot of people on the forum who understand films a whole lot more than I do. And I don't mean by that, that I dont understand the concept or story behind a film, but perhaps techniques and devices used in films to better convey the story that I'm not aware of.  And I think its always at the back of my mind when I state an opinion on a film that perhaps I'm taking it too much at face-value and not truly appreciating the different elements/techniques involved in the movie.  So theres always the concern that somebody with better knowledge will break-down my argument and make me feel inadequate or not fully informed to be stating my view.

I know there would be nobody out there setting out intentionally to make me feel like that, but it sometimes happens, simply through my lack of knowledge and inability to argue back against their points.

Anyway, I'm glad that I've persuaded you to see The New World after my post - something good certainly came of it then! And of course just because the hype around Brokeback irritates me somewhat, it doesn't mean I'd value anybody's opposing opinion any less.



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RE: Brokeback Mountain - 22/2/2006 6:23:31 PM   
Sway


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Castor Troy

quote:

but the current hype over the movie has me really angry


It's so weird how so much love for a movie you thought was 'okay' or didn't think much of at all, makes you angry and hate the movie. The same has happened to me with Munich and Walk The Line - fine movies, but the fact they are being loved by so many, and being nominated for Best Picture Oscars, makes me really angry for some reason, and thus makes me dislike the films even more.



Yeah thats true Castor - and I don't recall ever being so angry about the hype a movie has recieved. Usually if I've seen a film I found to be poor or mediocre and it recieves a lot of hype, I just ignore it. Because it is not something that really affects me, or should affect me.  However for some reason, and I've never experienced it before with any other movie, the hype surrounding this really gets to me.   And I can't explain it either.  Perhaps one of the reasons may be that when I went to see the movie I went expecting something amazing because of the hype and I was obviously very let down.   

I do have to wonder if I'd seen it without the buzz around it, if my opinion would have been any different? But the more I think about that, the more I come to the answer that I very much doubt it, because I simply disliked the movie, and the dislike was not based on other people's opinions, or those who'd bigged it up.

 Who knows what's happening inside that head of mine.

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RE: Brokeback Mountain - 22/2/2006 7:20:15 PM   
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RE: Brokeback Mountain - 22/2/2006 7:56:54 PM   
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A fine film, but not in the same league as either Hud or The Last Picture Show... Both of which also came from the mind Larry McMurty.
 
The relationship between Jack and Ennis is extremely honest and touching whilst the locked-down emotions of both men are beautifully (and at times painfully) conveyed by Gyllenhall and Ledger. The love scenes are handled with delicacy and, as the years roll by, a genuine sense of heartache pervades the moments of intimacy. On top of this, the photography is gorgeous whilst Gustavo Santaolalla's score drips with melancholy.
 
However, the Brokeback Mountain does have its flaws. The film perhaps takes a little too long to meander to its conclusion with Lee relying maybe a little too much on soulful, lingering looks. On top of this, the supporting characters are not so well drawn with Anne Hathaway in particular failing to convince as Gyllenhalls convenience wife. In fact, it is when the director shifts his focus from the intense Del Mar to the more flambuoyant Twist that the film falters most.
 
Brokeback Mountain is a fine film and certainly one that deserves to be remembered for a long time. It is also an extremely socially omportant one. However, one can't help feeling that the critic friendly subject matter has given it an instant mythology and "classic status" that it maybe doesn't quite warrant. It's a heartfelt love story but one that is perhaps over-ponderous and, dare I say it, over-hyped. 4/5

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Heartbreakingly Beautiful - 23/2/2006 10:27:59 AM   
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I absolutely loved The Ice Storm, one of my top ten movies, so I was confident that Ang Lee will make a beautiful movie out of a very linear, simple story, and by GOD he did!!!!!!! Eloquent, subtle, mesmerising, and ultimately extremely tragic, the film totally conveyed the heart ache, anger, shame, and total love, in this forbidden romance. Throughout the film, there are wonderfully subtle hints at how deep a love the two leads have for each other, and how this love affected the ones around them. Ledger was a GIANT in this film, and I hope Hollywod will take notice, Gyllenhaal was as good as we always know he is, and Williams was breathtakingly sad, lost, and ultimately conveyed the magnitude of the effect her husband has had on her life. I left the cinema feeling depressed and sad, but then again it is an adult film that triggers emotions and makes you think, as all good films should

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RE: Brokeback Mountain - 23/2/2006 11:33:21 AM   
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Totally agree.

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ORIGINAL: RJNeb2

I think it's Lee's deliberately lean, spare and unsentimental style, that makes this film such an emotional experience. I'm not talking lush, sappy orchestral scores to bleed the tears out of you, but rather a restrained approach that stays with you long after you've seen the film. For weeks even. I've never experienced anything quite like it. Memories of it - mainly Ledger's heartbreaking performance - come sneaking up on you when you least expect it. (Like in the shower the other morning!) Lee cuts right to the heart of his story – and it’s a heart that is deprived of the love it needs to flourish.
 
Plus the performances are extraordinary: Williams is quietly compelling as the doe-like wife who comes to realise that her husband has little love for her, while Gyllenhaal is having an amazing year with his recent run of films. His Jack Twist is a wonderfully open character, very charismatic, and yet very needy. Their final argument when Gyllenhaal screams that all they've got is Brokeback F**kin' Mountain is SO the clip they need to show when they come to the Best Supporting Actor category. 
 
A wonderful film. An instant classic.

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RE: Film of the year - 24/2/2006 10:24:43 PM   
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I went to see this tonight after waiting ages for friends to come with me I decided to go an see it alone, of course what encouraged me was the hype I was expecting so much.

I have to say I left the cinema feeling very sad and touched by the film, especially Heaths character Ennis, I feel like I want to see it again and watch their romance blossom, and also I wish I saw it without all the hype surrounding it as I was kinda dissapointed as I already knew the story saw some of the clips therefore it kinda ruined an atmosphere about the film. But nevertheless, its a film that when you describe it to someone
"What is this film about?"
" Its a love story between two shepherds"
People automatically think - is that it sounds boring
and i felt this way when i asked this question but its a story that leaves you thinking and questioning.
I remember being sat in the cinema all that time and yes some scenes were too long but I came away thinking about the ending.

I did feel for Ennis and Jack, but in a way they were not really likeable characters, they were simply human, I felt sorry for Ennis's wife how she he would leave her with the children just to go and secretly see Jack, I also felt sorry for Jacks wife as well and felt that Jack had no compassion for his wife or his son.

Michelle Williams and Anne Hathway were really great in this film, the scene where she is on the phone to Ennis just made me cry and also when Ennis' wife saw Jack and Ennis kissing, I felt so much sympathy for her.

What struck a cord with me though is the fact that Ennis had it all to begin with, his wife, his children and Jack occainly but then he lost it all, his wife divorced him and re-married, his children - well one at the end was to be married, and Jack died; and there he was at the end with the shirt he got from Jack's bedroom which was blood-stained from their time at Brokeback Mountain, and living in a caravan near BBM, almost like he was trying to cling on to the memory of their time there and clinging on to someone who he never had the chance to spend much of his time with.

Only one thing that irrated me was that I couldn't hear what some of the actors were saying as they sometimes it was almost as if they were mumbling their words, and some scenes I felt could have been cut short or cut out.

Overall, a good film but would possibly need more than 1 viewing, after seeing it once I give it 4/5



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RE: Broken Dreams in the Unforgiving West - 5/3/2006 7:11:13 PM   
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It's taken me a while to get round to seeing Brokeback Mountain and during that time my expectations have been raised by the critical acclaim and word of mouth from fellow movie fans. It's rare that I've seen a film under such circumstances and come out in agreement. Brokeback however, really is that good. There's little I can add to the comments already on the board, but I thought I'd say this summing up from Phil very much captures my own thoughts.

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ORIGINAL: Philconcannon

I'm trying to think of flaws but few spring to mind. Perhaps the film could do with losing a few minutes here or there, but a complaint such as that is churlish in the extreme. Brokeback Mountain is a triumph of sensitivity, honesty and artistry which will haunt viewers' thoughts for days afterwards. It is a triumph for Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal whose understated and nuanced displays are easily the best of their careers; and it is triumph for Ang Lee. From the most potentially hazardous material of his career the director has crafted a heart-wrenching masterpiece which is as epic, impressive and unforgettable as the mountain itself. This is so much more than 'the gay cowboy movie'; it is one of contemporary cinema's greatest love stories - simple as that.


I'd also agree with these comments from Gazdance:

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  Minor spoilers) It's a genuine 5 star film and despite my initial reaction, Heath Ledger deserves the reviews he has been getting (though it has to be noted that the rest of the cast are excellent, not least Michelle Williams).  His Ennis del Mar is so stoic and gruff throughout the film that it makes his relationship with Gyllenhaal's Jack Twist even more heart-wrenching.  One scene in particular, when Jack and Ennis first go their seperate ways, Ennis collapses and he doesn't know if he wants to be sick or cry, he just knows that he's never felt anything like the ways he's feeling now that Jack is leaving his life.  It's an emotional reaction that is wonderfully realised onscreen.  His character is the most tragic of the two, for everytime he rebuffs Jack throughout their lives, he closes in on himself a little more and Jack drifts just a little further away from him.

There are some geniuinely touching moments of tenderness between them, the best of which occurs in a flashback where Ennis simply hugs Jack from behind.  They are so happy and content wth eachother that when that image is juxtaposed with how their lives have turned out you can't help but feel the sadness that their characters feel.

For all the talk of it being the "gay cowboy movie", it's really not very gay at all.  Aside from the obvious physicallity of the central realtionship, the film is really just about two people in love and the regret of a chance not taken.

I really loved this film so it's odd that it has left me in such a melancholic mood.  I would recommend it highly to anyone.

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I thought that moment was indeed very powerful, although in addition to the scene you mention I thought their final parting, as Ennis breaks down after Jack's outburst was emotionally devastating and provides quite an interesting parallel to Ennis's earlier collapse. The first time was caused by leaving behind the most exciting and fulfilling period of his young life, the second was through the regret and suffering of an older, more experienced man who knows that his dreams and hopes will always remain unfulfilled. That sense of morose acceptance is incredibly poignant and tragic.

It has indeed left me in a melancholic mood, that sense of sadness really does linger in the mind. You can apply these themes to any life, as you say the film is as much about regret and the failure to realise one's ambitions as anything else (the gay issue has certainly been overstated). Do we take that step to buy that plot of land or do we fester for the rest of our lives doing something we hate and living a life that makes us feel constricted.

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RE: Absolutely stunning! - 5/3/2006 7:24:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Filmfan 2

If Brokeback Mountain doesn't do the business come Oscar time, then there truly is no justice. Ang Lee's spin on the "traditional" love story is an absolute masterpiece, in every sense of the word.

Everything that I'd heard said about the film is true and then some. It's haunting, epic, heartbreaking and so wonderfully shot and acted, Heath Ledger in particular on stunning form as Ennis. Probably one of the finest performances I've seen for quite some time. He perfectly captured that stoic, cut-from-stone cowboy that has become familiar over the years in cowboy films, but he injects such heartbreaking panache into his role as one half of the films illicit tryst.

As mentioned in a review above, the cinematography is indeed stunning, with Brokeback Mountains wide open, lonely landscape the perfect metaphor for Jack and Ennis' love that cannot be.

If anyone chooses to avoid the film due to its subject matter, then they'd be truly missing out. This is one of the most poignant love stories that I've ever watched, and indeed, I think that Brokeback Mountain is one of the most important films that has ever been made.

A triumph for all involved.

10/10.

As ever Filmfan I couldn't agree more.

One other thought I had was that the film is deeply moving without resort to mawkishness or manipulation. I don't know how long the sense of melancholy is going to last, but it is true to say that I am profoundly moved and the final wonderful images linger in my mind. The last film I saw that left me like this was The Return of the King and there aren't many other films that have provoked this sort of reaction from me. I best stop now as I'm rambling and finding it somewhat difficult to express my actual thoughts.

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RE: Broken Dreams in the Unforgiving West - 5/3/2006 10:36:59 PM   
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Glad you enjoyed it Axel. I know what you mean about the film's lasting effect, it left me with a deep feeling of sadness which lingered for days; and the fact that it manages to make this impact in such a subtle and unsentimental manner is even more of an achievement.

It's easily the best film of the five Best Picture nominees and I'd be quite happy to see it sweep the board tonight.

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RE: Broken Dreams in the Unforgiving West - 6/3/2006 11:46:21 AM   
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I’d have been glad to see it sweep the board too, but I guess you know when movies such as A Beautiful Mind and Chicago get rewarded it doesn’t seem such a big deal that it missed out on the big one. Ang Lee at least took some reward and in years to come people will regard him as a master of the medium, just as I think the film itself will become a landmark piece of cinema.

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RE: Broken Dreams in the Unforgiving West - 6/3/2006 8:10:33 PM   
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I agree. I think BBM was far and away the best movie. I saw Crash and enjoyed it a great deal. I also thought that the peformances of a lot of the actors were very very good.

None of that alters the fact that I believe BBM will stand the test of time as a truly 'great' movie and I just don't think that Crash will - it's just too 'overbaked' at times.

I can't help wondering if the things that make me really love BBM - the sensitivity, subtlety, atmospheric mood and ability to be heartwrenchingly moving without mawkinshess were just too understated for the Academy to really appreciate them. Quite often it seems that the winners are the films that feel the need to ram home their message with a super-sized mallet.

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Great! - 8/3/2006 8:28:08 AM   
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Not going to write alot, I'm sure everythings been said already. Just go and see this film if you haven't already. Great performances from all involved.

Also, got to say I think Crash does just pip this to deserve best film in the oscars. That said its a close call

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RE: Great! - 10/3/2006 12:10:28 AM   
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finally got to see this tonight, and even though i had read all about it, heard all the hype i had only seen one trailer and no clips, and didnt know - gladly - how the film plays out. like others i get very sceptical when a film is this hyped up but rarely (if ever) has a film lived up to the hype like this. a true modern masterpiece. fantastic acting - heath ledger was outstanding - brilliantly, subtly directed by ang lee at his very best. one of the most heartbreaking love storys ive ever seen. its been a long long time since ive seen people leaving the cinema with tears in their eyes. the academy have proved themselves once and for all that they have no taste by not awarding this best film. 5/5 (and i rarely give full stars)

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RE: - 11/3/2006 8:26:59 PM   
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I must admit this film doesn't appeal to me - so I say sorry to the mases now. But I think you either love it or you hate it................ And I am affraid it is the latter...

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RE: RE: - 11/3/2006 10:48:05 PM   
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I saw this last weekend. Loved it (Well the first bit in the tent was a little bit too graphic for me). It was so sad. The music was brilliant, so I'll probably buy the soundtrack. When I was watching it I ate so much popcorn, it made me feel knda sick.

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- 12/3/2006 12:08:52 PM   
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Great music, Solid acting deserves the accalim its got.

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- 16/3/2006 12:41:34 PM   
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Such a great film, really heartbreaking and emotional, and one that i think people will be talking about for many years to come.

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Desperatley sad and moving but hauntingly beautiful and... - 21/3/2006 9:44:35 PM   
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Simply beautiful, tragic and emotional. Ang Lee and all the cast have come up trumps here. Its beautifully subtle and understated. In fact its this very understatement of the films underlying power that affects you the day after - there is no big sweeping Williams-like score, no Spielberg-like sentimentality and no typical love story cliches. The subject matter is handled with exceptional grace, you don't feel you're being manipulated but rather the unravelling story, the characters, the beautiful camera shots and the sublime music pulling you in.   Crash winning the Best Picture Oscar over this is truly laughable - Crash, for me, was all pretty mediocre and unprofound, something which is ironic in my eyes because it seems to think its actually being profound when it tells us nothing that we didn't know before upon conclusion of the film is all pretty forgettable.  Brokeback Mountain however lingers and haunts you for days, even weeks after.   Watch this tragic film if you like a solid, character driven, brooding drama - this isn't for those who need explosions and action.  Everyone else?  See it!  The best and most affecting film I've seen in years.

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RE: Desperatley sad and moving but hauntingly beautiful... - 26/3/2006 8:02:11 PM   
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I went to see Brokeback for a second time a few days ago and it hit me in exactly the way it did the first time. It is simply one of the most beautiful, powerful, heartbreaking films I have seen. The understated depiction of events is indeed a major plus. The score is pitch perfect, I love the way odd notes on the guitar seem to capture events, for example the happier strumming for the snow sledding or the slower, melodic strings which capture life on Brokeback through to the truly magical "The Wings", which finishes the film.

There are so many moments that catch the eye, moslty smaller moments, little gestures. For example the look on Gylenhaal's face as Ledger curse aloud as to leaving his shirt behind on Brokeback. Seeing it again it struck me that he managed to convey a guilty but happy feeling.

I do believe Brokeback Mountain will become a landmark film, mainly because it really is that good. A wonderful tribute to youthful exuberance and innocence and the beauty of those cherished memories in addition to the haunting meditation on life's regrets and yearning. It will live long in my mind. In fact the problem will be forgetting it.

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Best Picture scandal - 19/4/2006 12:48:25 AM   
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I agree with the sentiments of anyone who loved this film, so rather than review it here are my thoughts on why it should have won Best Picture:

Crash - great film, fabulous performances, but just far too much of an 'issues' film. Every character (and there were too many to give any of them any depth) seemed to talk so constantly and histrionically about race that it just felt so unrealistic; a few more scenes with ordinary dialogue would have made those casually racist remarks seem so much more significant and would have encouraged the audience to want to know more about the characters and the reasons behind their attitudes; as it was there was a barrier that stopped the audience really engaging with them and thus considering the issues in more depth afterwards. I also believe that, though racism is unfortunately to be found everywhere, this particular film held significance mainly for the inhabitants of Los Angeles and similar big American cities.

Capote - I found PS Hoffman's performance better than the film itself (as with Johnny Depp and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory), which was good but somehow not as gripping as I'd hoped. Up until about forty minutes in I felt myself being slowly drawn in by the mesmerising images of bleak countryside and the juxtaposition of the effect the murders had on the community with Capote's slightly unsettling interest in the case, but from then on I lost interest. The pace flagged and, the sense of exhaustion from the process of creating something aside, I didn't really feel engaged by the characters or their situations by the end of the film.

Munich - I felt this was hugely overrated. It is obviously deals with complex issues and I can't pretend to understand the politics in any great depth, but therein lies the problem: the film toyed with facts, people and events in such a way that I didn't know what to take as true, what to be entirely speculative, or indeed what organisations were. Avner seems a gentle, loving husband with a baby on the way, and it seems implausible that he would be chosen for such a mission, especially given his apparent nerves and inexperience at the first assassination. Similarly it was only at the very end of the film that I realised who the sweet old woman at the start was. There were other implausible elements, such as the ease with which the assassinations were carried out through a French source. Each assassination was dwelt upon far too much, and while a more commercial montage sequence may have felt out of place, the lingering over each one seriously slowed the pace (the film was a good half-hour too long), and the film's moral and political messages seemed heavy-handed and unoriginal: the protaganists slowly realise the futile nature of their business and the way each victim is replaced by another, ie violence begets violence. Well duh. I felt that the hit squad were painted in a rather too amiable light for too much of the film, and while Spielberg obviously had a tricky political and religious balancing act to achieve, the film overall seemed politically and artistically much too ambiguous, with, for instance, the real-life cases of mistaken identity entirely ignored.

Good Night, and Good Luck - not much to say here. I enjoyed this film very much, it's a lean, intelligent and slickly paced drama in which the stand-off between the journalists and Senator McCarthy (deftly shown to be horribly sleazy through adroit use of real footage) is conveyed through the claustrophobic set, with even the soundtrack provided by a singer within a booth at the studios. Performances are uniformly excellent, even if Robert Downey Jr.'s marriage sub-plot should have been excised, but it is not the meaty sort of film you expect to win Best Picture.

Brokeback Mountain - I am of course a little biased here, since as a gay man I am very happy that such a film has been so successful when gay characters in cinema either seem to be in sweet but slight independent films or camp-asexual-played-for-laughs-one-dimensional-gay-best-friends in formulaic rom-coms. However since it has been so universally popular and since not all gay men have loved it this isn't really a relevant bias.

As a film this works in so many ways: it is stunning to look at, unfolds at a magisterial pace without ever dragging; the music, while not what I expected, is perfect (and more effective than a sweeping romantic score would have been I suspect); and the performances are excellent and powerful without being showy. Jake and Heath are fabulous but Michelle Williams too was very affecting, her fragility conveying the turmoil homophobia has not just on gay men and women themselves but on the lives of those around them, and it is extraordinary to think that the prejudice in this community at this time is one which still leads some gay men to marry, have children and live lives of deception and repression today. The deep love which forms between the two men is convincingly portrayed, and not as animalistic lust; the scenes towards the end of the film, including one in which they stand by the campfire together as Ennis tenderly sings to the drowsy Jack, are heartbreaking. The sex is not in any real sense graphic - in terms of mainstream cinema, and to a straight audience perhaps, but far more explicit straight sex scenes can be found in many a film and tv show. The quality of the acting from the two leads contradicts the media's simplistic 'gay cowboy' slogan. Jack is perhaps more straightforwardly gay, as his behaviour in some parts attest, but Heath as Ennis portrays a man so unflinchingly introverted that it seems if it wasn't for Jack, he wouldn't have a true, intimate relationship with anyone of either gender. 

Where Brokeback succeeds is how, if it is an 'issues' film at all (dealing with the effects of prejudice on relationships), it examines these issues not through polemic or long speeches, but through good old-fashioned story-telling, through believable, human characters and events, so that the audience isn't told what the film is about, but rather is drawn into it, empathising with the characters so that, by the end of the film, a bond has developed which ensures the story lingers in the mind long after the credits have rolled. It thus succeeds on a purely filmic level and an emotional one, and is a great artistic achievement whose issues, as the reaction to the film in certain parts of the world has attested, are as timely as ever.

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Something Lacking - 26/4/2006 5:22:04 PM   
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I do feel as if Brokeback Mountain is a masterpiece and very well crafted film that deserved many accollades however when i saw it i felt tht there was something lacking, and this was the sheer deepness in the love between the two men and i felt the music needed to be used more often and to a more effective level to really bring out the passion, but apart from that, amazing direction and well put together

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A great picture that will be remembered for many, many ... - 28/4/2006 11:35:45 AM   
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Beautiful, emotional, haunting, tragic. Brokeback Mountain is a truly amazing piece of cinema that will surely go down as onw of the Hollywood classics. Everything is handled with such subtlety and deft hand by Ang Lee, the cinematography is breathtaking, the score melancholic yet beautiful, the performances powerful and stirring. This is a film that will stay with you, in your heart and in your head. It delivers a real gut punch and if by the end of it you are not deeply moved then you should stop going to the cinema!

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Upsetting, fantastic, beatuiful and just well good! - 28/4/2006 2:39:09 PM   
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The first time I saw an advert for this film I thought it looked like the funnist thing that I have ever seen! Me and my mate went to go see it for a laugh, but fell in love with it after we saw it! It's an epic tale of forbidden love and will not only capture your heart but make you cry for like 4 hours after seeing it! Truly an all time great that will live on forever!

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RE: Upsetting, fantastic, beatuiful and just well good! - 28/4/2006 3:55:37 PM   
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well shot, and fine performances from all  except ledger, not to mention a brilliant turn by anna faris, but really just so narratively flat you feel a bit worn out. loads of sloppy sentiment too. just so much that feels so pointless, i felt a bit cheated leaving the cinema.

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RE: Brokeback Mountain - 30/4/2006 5:07:30 PM   
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I saw the film last night and I thought it was really good, The acting was brilliant!

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RE: Brokeback Mountain - 30/4/2006 7:10:36 PM   
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I saw this again couple days ago. It's just too amazing... I was alone at a midday screening.
It is just so intense (even if i had already seen it before) that couldn't help but cry. It's so bare and raw. Not forgetting the artistic value of the film. The second time reminded me just how it's not just a political film.... and just saying that takes part of it dissapear. It has to be seen as whole.
I'm not gonna go in to details cause I've done that before...

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RE: Brokeback Mountain - 1/5/2006 12:14:37 AM   
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When I saw it at the cinema, I liked it and thought it was very good. But since seeing it for the second time, in the comfort of my 'non-baking hot cinema' room I adored it. It really struck how amazing Heath Ledger is, how amazing almost every scene is, and how amazing the cinematography is. It's a beautiful film which really digs deep into your soul and realises very powerful and upsetting emotions.

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RE: Brokeback Mountain - 1/5/2006 9:28:17 AM   
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Beautifully, filmed and so well made. Heath and Jake astounded me, i love both there films, but Brokeback was just pure pleasure to watch, and i thought it was just an amazing love story too, forget that its to guys, the love story is something that can happen to anyone. Superb!!!!!!!!

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