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RE: What are you thinking......... - 5/3/2014 4:43:30 PM   
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RE: What are you thinking......... - 5/3/2014 8:37:25 PM   
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RE: What are you thinking......... - 5/3/2014 8:44:21 PM   
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Has there ever been a funny one?

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 5/3/2014 8:50:34 PM   
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They're not that bad, they're just a poor man's Red Letter Media review for tabloid readers.

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 5/3/2014 9:51:17 PM   
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Has there ever been a funny one?


I've not seen many but to be honest, I feel comfortable judging them as a whole based on the people who put them up here.

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 6/3/2014 7:02:09 AM   
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No more BBC 3. What a shame as it is one of their best channels.

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 6/3/2014 9:32:35 AM   
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But we have so many sarcastic smilies to use at the end of that sentence

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 6/3/2014 9:41:28 AM   
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But we have so many sarcastic smilies to use at the end of that sentence


I was just thinking all it does is nob up that Ming Tea song.

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 6/3/2014 11:02:20 AM   
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I'll be watching BBC3 every night from now on. Got to get my fix of classics like Don't Tell The Bride, Hair, Impractical Jokers, Junior Paramedics and Festivals, Sex And Suspicious Parents while I can. Plus when it's gone I have no idea where I'm going to get my fix of Family Guy, American Dad and Great Movie Mistakes without their neverending repeats on the channel.

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 6/3/2014 1:16:19 PM   
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Isn't at least one of them on FX? I think American Dad is.



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RE: What are you thinking......... - 6/3/2014 1:59:23 PM   
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Isn't at least one of them on FX?I think American Dad is.




But I don't have FX


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RE: What are you thinking......... - 6/3/2014 2:22:36 PM   
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Isn't at least one of them on FX? I think American Dad is.




But I don't have FX



Then you don't need to watch tedious animation

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 6/3/2014 6:36:10 PM   
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I can't say I ever watched BBC3...

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 6/3/2014 8:22:27 PM   
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Neither did quite a few on here judging by the last handful of posts. I think it's terrible news - one less outlet for original british comedy, especially of the risk-taking variety, is no good for anyone.

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 6/3/2014 8:23:05 PM   
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It has been a decent starting ground for some good shows (although they soon migrate when discovered).

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 6/3/2014 8:36:18 PM   
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Neither did quite a few on here judging by the last handful of posts. I think it's terrible news - one less outlet for original british comedy, especially of the risk-taking variety, is no good for anyone.


What, like Miranda or Outnumbered? I'm sure the Beeb will make room for them on BBC 1 or 2. They might have to can a few repeats of Bergerac or do the unthinkable and show one less Cooking With Bargain Antiques In A Renovated Attic programme, but it'll be worth it to make sure we don't miss out on such legendary comedy

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 6/3/2014 8:55:55 PM   
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Still baffled over the conclusion that moving it online yet retaining the production costs will save them money..

A predominantly crap channel anyway, but I guess I'm not the target audience.



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RE: What are you thinking......... - 7/3/2014 5:27:11 AM   
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Then you don't need to watch tedious animation



But I love it!

Apart from American Dad, Orphan Black will be the only thing I'll miss.

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 7/3/2014 8:58:27 AM   
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Neither did quite a few on here judging by the last handful of posts. I think it's terrible news - one less outlet for original british comedy, especially of the risk-taking variety, is no good for anyone.


What, like Miranda or Outnumbered? I'm sure the Beeb will make room for them on BBC 1 or 2. They might have to can a few repeats of Bergerac or do the unthinkable and show one less Cooking With Bargain Antiques In A Renovated Attic programme, but it'll be worth it to make sure we don't miss out on such legendary comedy


Neither Miranda nor Outnumbered were on BBC3.


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RE: What are you thinking......... - 7/3/2014 10:17:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: horribleives


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ORIGINAL: superdan


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Neither did quite a few on here judging by the last handful of posts. I think it's terrible news - one less outlet for original british comedy, especially of the risk-taking variety, is no good for anyone.


What, like Miranda or Outnumbered? I'm sure the Beeb will make room for them on BBC 1 or 2. They might have to can a few repeats of Bergerac or do the unthinkable and show one less Cooking With Bargain Antiques In A Renovated Attic programme, but it'll be worth it to make sure we don't miss out on such legendary comedy


Neither Miranda nor Outnumbered were on BBC3.



Then it really is a pointless channel

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 7/3/2014 11:00:42 AM   
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Well that's entirely subjective but it doesn't make your initial post any less factually incorrect.
I'm not denying there's a lot of shite on there but it's hardly alone on that score - christ, look at some of the crap Channel 4 serve up these days. And if BBC3 didn't exist shows like Little Britain, The Mighty Boosh, Gavin And Stacey, Being Human, Him And Her, Bad Education, The Fades, Pramface, Bluestone 42, Cuckoo and Uncle may never initially found a home at all. They're not all masterpieces by any stretch of the imagination but that's irrelevant: they're certainly not Don't Tell The Bride either.
The other consequence of the channel going online will be the BBC narrowing even further their remit for commissioning non-mainstream comedy, something which, post-Brand/Sachs-gate and the Jimmy Savile scandal, had already become severely limited.

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 7/3/2014 12:04:55 PM   
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Gavin & Stacey and Him & Her were good, as was Summer Heights High. Unfortunately they've all finished. Bad Education is terrible. I never got on with The Mighty Boosh, but most of the people I know love it. The rest I've never seen, nor have I been encouraged to watch them since I have literally never heard anyone talk about them, never mind recommend them. BBC3 could have been a real home for innovative or risky comedy, but it never was. In fact I'd argue that rather than being a beacon of hope it has been complicit in British TV comedy being dreadful for many years now. When I look at the schedule for the next few days, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - being broadcast that isn't a repeat or something that even Channel 4 wouldn't touch. And that's at a weekend. I can't say the same about any of the other channels. When ITV or 5 have a more interesting line-up you know that the jig is up, especially when you have to find 100m from somewhere. Perhaps the move to online only will help, make the cream rise to the top. We'll see. Either way, whatever works will probably be farmed out to BBC 1 or 2 anyway. Incidentally I can see exactly the same thing happening to BBC4 as well.

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 7/3/2014 1:17:05 PM   
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What are the viewing figures like for BBC3 anyway? I'm just wondering if the cost can really be justified anymore, especially since entertainers can potentially get far bigger exposure and coverage on Youtube these days.

Sure, you could say that about other TV channels too I guess, but nobody's talking about axing BBC1...

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 7/3/2014 1:25:03 PM   
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Well that's entirely subjective but it doesn't make your initial post any less factually incorrect.
I'm not denying there's a lot of shite on there but it's hardly alone on that score - christ, look at some of the crap Channel 4 serve up these days. And if BBC3 didn't exist shows like Little Britain, The Mighty Boosh, Gavin And Stacey, Being Human, Him And Her, Bad Education, The Fades, Pramface, Bluestone 42, Cuckoo and Uncle may never initially found a home at all. They're not all masterpieces by any stretch of the imagination but that's irrelevant: they're certainly not Don't Tell The Bride either.
The other consequence of the channel going online will be the BBC narrowing even further their remit for commissioning non-mainstream comedy, something which, post-Brand/Sachs-gate and the Jimmy Savile scandal, had already become severely limited.


I think that's the key point. BBC3 is mainly dross. Yes, that's subjective - but pretty much anything decent was transferred to the channel that should have commissioned it in the first place. Had they not been idiots over Fades they could have done the same with that. I know there's a lot of bleating online about comedy outlets but even those in favour of the argument acknowledge that's produced a heck of a lot of the worst shows on the channel, and heaven knows they have competition in that.

The creation of BBC3 has allowed BBC2 to spend more of it's time on reality stuff of one sort or other - mainly food porn. Remove that from the channel and have it program properly again most of the range from BBC 3 actually fits there, minus the reality shit which should find it's level of ITV 4 and Channels 4/5. I think the point isn't that BBC3 was some kind of saviour of comedy - it was just hived off there along with a chunk of other stuff that didn't really need to be. In a similar way to the kids stuff all being shoved off to it's own channel but all it's been replaced with is property/antiquest reality crap and quizzes.

Part of the whole problem is trying to program 4 channels on a reduced budget so you use cheap rubbish to fill the gaps. It's down to trying to over-commercialise the BBC and that has always compromised the quality of the channels as a whole.

Anyway - [art of the argument is redundant because while they're closing the physical channel they've not gotten rid of the shows budget, just reduced parts of the costs so far. As they've not said anything about which shows wil continue to be commissioned, does it really matter if they're shown online? It's the one channel with an audience where that isn't likely to be a problem. So the shit comedy will still be there

My only concern is the Eurovision semis.

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 7/3/2014 1:28:37 PM   
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Gavin & Stacey and Him & Her were good, as was Summer Heights High. Unfortunately they've all finished. Bad Education is terrible. I never got on with The Mighty Boosh, but most of the people I know love it. The rest I've never seen, nor have I been encouraged to watch them since I have literally never heard anyone talk about them, never mind recommend them. BBC3 could have been a real home for innovative or risky comedy, but it never was. In fact I'd argue that rather than being a beacon of hope it has been complicit in British TV comedy being dreadful for many years now. When I look at the schedule for the next few days, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - being broadcast that isn't a repeat or something that even Channel 4 wouldn't touch. And that's at a weekend. I can't say the same about any of the other channels. When ITV or 5 have a more interesting line-up you know that the jig is up, especially when you have to find 100m from somewhere. Perhaps the move to online only will help, make the cream rise to the top. We'll see. Either way, whatever works will probably be farmed out to BBC 1 or 2 anyway. Incidentally I can see exactly the same thing happening to BBC4 as well.


They'll have a much more difficult problem with that. The audience demographic isn't remotely the same and that's more likely to generate serious 6Music type furore.

Yes, this should be core programming on BBC 1/2 but those channels have ceded that ground. BBC4 is very much the type of programming that's part of BBC history, what it's supposed to be there for. If they try to get rid of that one of the key arguments will be simple - if you don't provide this, you've gone too far from your roots to commercialisation. Their licence fee discussions will become highly problematic in that context. So BBC4 is far more than a cost issue - it goes to the core of the Reithian ideal


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RE: What are you thinking......... - 7/3/2014 1:34:53 PM   
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Gavin & Stacey and Him & Her were good, as was Summer Heights High. Unfortunately they've all finished. Bad Education is terrible. I never got on with The Mighty Boosh, but most of the people I know love it. The rest I've never seen, nor have I been encouraged to watch them since I have literally never heard anyone talk about them, never mind recommend them. BBC3 could have been a real home for innovative or risky comedy, but it never was. In fact I'd argue that rather than being a beacon of hope it has been complicit in British TV comedy being dreadful for many years now. When I look at the schedule for the next few days, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - being broadcast that isn't a repeat or something that even Channel 4 wouldn't touch. And that's at a weekend. I can't say the same about any of the other channels. When ITV or 5 have a more interesting line-up you know that the jig is up, especially when you have to find 100m from somewhere. Perhaps the move to online only will help, make the cream rise to the top. We'll see. Either way, whatever works will probably be farmed out to BBC 1 or 2 anyway. Incidentally I can see exactly the same thing happening to BBC4 as well.


They'll have a much more difficult problem with that. The audience demographic isn't remotely the same and that's more likely to generate serious 6Music type furore.

Yes, this should be core programming on BBC 1/2 but those channels have ceded that ground. BBC4 is very much the type of programming that's part of BBC history, what it's supposed to be there for. If they try to get rid of that one of the key arguments will be simple - if you don't provide this, you've gone too far from your roots to commercialisation. Their licence fee discussions will become highly problematic in that context. So BBC4 is far more of a cost issue - it goes to the core of the Reithian ideal



I wonder if future generations will wonder why the Tv channels go 1, 2 and then jump to 4 ?


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RE: What are you thinking......... - 7/3/2014 8:24:12 PM   
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My phone has started playing weird mood music in the background of all my phonecalls, it's very off-putting. I can't for the life of me figure out how to make it stop

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 8/3/2014 7:35:47 AM   
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Maybe it is trying to relax you (and lull you into a false sense of security before it strikes).

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RE: What are you thinking......... - 8/3/2014 10:01:43 AM   
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Gavin & Stacey and Him & Her were good, as was Summer Heights High. Unfortunately they've all finished. Bad Education is terrible. I never got on with The Mighty Boosh, but most of the people I know love it. The rest I've never seen, nor have I been encouraged to watch them since I have literally never heard anyone talk about them, never mind recommend them. BBC3 could have been a real home for innovative or risky comedy, but it never was. In fact I'd argue that rather than being a beacon of hope it has been complicit in British TV comedy being dreadful for many years now. When I look at the schedule for the next few days, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - being broadcast that isn't a repeat or something that even Channel 4 wouldn't touch. And that's at a weekend. I can't say the same about any of the other channels. When ITV or 5 have a more interesting line-up you know that the jig is up, especially when you have to find 100m from somewhere. Perhaps the move to online only will help, make the cream rise to the top. We'll see. Either way, whatever works will probably be farmed out to BBC 1 or 2 anyway. Incidentally I can see exactly the same thing happening to BBC4 as well.


Okay some decent points there but I don't see what relevance you not having seen something or had it recommended to you has on a programmes's quality - I'd never heard of The Life Of Rock With Brian Pern until the series finished and it's probably the funniest thing I've seen all year.
And I'm not suggesting BBC3 was some beacon of hope: I was disagreeing with the narrative developing that it only screened reality rubbish and repeats. There's a hell of a lot of that, no question (and perhaps if they'd focused more on original comedy/drama the channel may have flourished) but it still provided a home for stuff that wouldn't always be commisioned by BBC1 or 2.
Hopefully you're right and the best stuff will end up on those channels but with the ever-cautious and risk-averse BBC I can't see it being as cut and dried as that. So you get a show like Uncle, in my opinion one of the best new sitcoms the BBC has produced in years, and now unless it moves to 1 or 2 it'll either be cancelled or screened exclusively online where even less people are likely to know it exists. Hardly a good thing for television in my eyes.


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RE: What are you thinking......... - 8/3/2014 10:11:54 AM   
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