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The Godfather Part III - 4/10/2005 11:29:24 AM   
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Messy, unnecessary sequel - 5/4/2006 9:23:36 PM   
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Personally, I found this painful to watch - I absolutely love The Godfather and have ever since I first saw it around nine years ago - Part II I enjoyed (the Robert DeNiro parts anyway), but even that one I felt was kind of unnecessary - the image of the door closing on Kaye was enough of a message for me about this family's tragedy, and what the future held for them. I always used to wonder why my Dad, a huge Godfather fan, never had Part III in his collection. Now I know why -- this is a rambling, incoherent, badly paced mess with far too many thinly-drawn characters, and full of scenes that attempt to recreate similar scenes from the earlier films, but fail to reach the same standard. Acting is depressingly average. This is definitely The Phantom Menace to Part I's A New Hope...

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- 21/7/2006 10:46:17 PM   
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Oh my god!!! How boring is this. It has like one memorable scene, which is the helicopter assault and thats it. Overlong and overboring.

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- 8/12/2006 3:24:50 PM   
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good sequel not as good as part 1or 2 but still a goof finnish to a great series

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Empire reviewers are idiots - 4/1/2007 2:01:33 PM   
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Why, why, why?
Part 3 may not be of the same quality as the first and second part but as part of a trilogy, the film works successfully. The last scene at Palermo opera is particularly moving and the film definetly deserves multiple viewings.

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RE: The Godfather Part III - 1/3/2007 3:03:16 PM   
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I can understand Empire's review when this film came out because I was very disappointed too.
The Godfather & The Godfather Part II are, in my humble opinion, the greatest achievement in modern American cinema - & that final shot of a cold, brooding Michael was just perfect.
There are other movies that I love a lot, certainly Scorsese's Raging Bull is a film that has lived with me, but these two are my favourites.
So Part III had a lot to live up to & a lot to contend with, not least that it was made for all the wrong reasons.
By 1990 Francis Coppola, was in a very different place as an artist and as a person from his creative peak of the mid 70's.
There are lots of reasons for that & I'd probably need a chapter or two to present an informed opinion - but still, we had faith in his grasp of everything Corleone.
The original concept was strong, like the previous films it was supposed to be about the death of a brother - in this case, Tom Hagen.
But when Duvall pulled out at the last minute it knocked the feet from Coppola's original vision.
Winona Ryder didn't help either - but Francis still had time to get someone else, his casting of Sofia was part panic, part monster-ego - & it didn't work out.
She's not the film's main flaw-  that's down to the script not being ready
- pure & simple.
But Gordon Willis's photography is as seductive as ever, Dean Tavoularis's sets are brilliant and the two male leads are excellent.- although in a way, the great Pacino also plays his part in our disatisfaction.
I know that's Al up there on the screen - but this characterisation doesn't look or sound like Michael Corleone to me.
And Coppola, on this ocassion at least, finds it almost impossible to find his tone and his rhythm - especially in the tempo of sequences - which is another way of saying his pacing is way off.
But for all that, Coppola is incapable of making a film without merit and genuine emotion - & this IS a fine film in it's own right.
It's just not a very good Godfather film.
The director himself, has been rather dismissive of it but I think it's a perfect metaphor for his career;
"Too ambitious, beautiful, equally awful & brilliant, hopelessly short of past greatness and yet still brave - and always necessary"
You know, a lot of geniuses are at their best when their young.
Einstein was a genius - & so in a very different way, was George Best.
Einstein's later career didn't compare to The Theory of Relativity.
And George one of the greatest athletes this country ever produced, became better known as a rather pathetic drunk.
But I still have a little hope left for Francis.
With The Godfather, Coppola established his film-making genius indelibly, forever - & just as importantly as Orson Welles.
Would people like Scorsese or Lucas have broken through as quickly without him?
Probably not.
It's been 10 years since his last film, I for one am still looking forward to the next - roll on Youth Without Youth.






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Oh dear! - 24/5/2007 9:09:12 PM   
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It was a good film but it had large pitfalls for instance its so boring! i watched the other 2 films and fell in love but watching number 3 is a let down it seems like nothing happens untill the the last 40mins the other 2 kept you hooked in for the whole 3hours but you lose intrest and lose the love all because of number three. the ending is very though but thats about it... you might as well watch it to round off the godfather trilogy but it is dissapointing

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Highly, and strongly, disagree.... - 8/6/2007 5:28:16 PM   
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quote:

Fans of the first two instalments are likely to find The Godfather Part III an unworthy heir to the tradition. First-time voters, meanwhile, will surely wonder what on earth all the fuss was all about


I can't stress the utter crap of the phrase above. The film is excellent. NOT the brilliant movie like its original two - but nowadays that goes without saying - but nevertheless, an excellent epilogue to Godfather story.

I put it 5 stars, not because it necessaraly deserved it (I actually rate it so myself, but objectively its a 4-4,5 stars), but because this rating here is utterly stupid and maligned.

The ONLY Empire review I have EVER disagreed so strongly? Yes. Whereas I disagreed in other reviews of theirs (mostly on some excellent Scorsese films), I understand their reasoning behind the rating. But with this one.... I can't really stress my complete disregard for the review.

In the end, I am a fan of the series for 20 years.... And I love the film, no matter its flaws. So there!

5 stars.

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Highly, and strongly, disagree.... - 8/6/2007 5:39:44 PM   
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quote:

Fans of the first two instalments are likely to find The Godfather Part III an unworthy heir to the tradition. First-time voters, meanwhile, will surely wonder what on earth all the fuss was all about


I can't stress the utter crap of the phrase above. The film is excellent. NOT the brilliant movie like its original two - but nowadays that goes without saying - but nevertheless, an excellent epilogue to Godfather story.

I put it 5 stars, not because it necessaraly deserved it (I actually rate it so myself, but objectively its a 4-4,5 stars), but because this rating here is utterly stupid and maligned.

The ONLY Empire review I have EVER disagreed so strongly? Yes. Whereas I disagreed in other reviews of theirs (mostly on some excellent Scorsese films), I understand their reasoning behind the rating. But with this one.... I can't really stress my complete disregard for the review.

In the end, I am a fan of the series for 20 years.... And I love the film, no matter its flaws. So there!

5 stars.

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- 30/6/2007 5:55:50 PM   
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It is very overlooked by the first two as they were both absolutely fantastic, there is something wrong with this movie but to point out what is unfathomable. In way it is a good film but concerning the other two movies it is an all right film.

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- 30/6/2007 5:55:50 PM   
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It is very overlooked by the first two as they were both absolutely fantastic, there is something wrong with this movie but to point out what is unfathomable. In way it is a good film but concerning the other two movies it is an all right film.

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- 24/10/2007 11:09:48 PM   
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part 1 an 2 are genious part 3 i refuse to believe exists.

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- 24/10/2007 11:09:48 PM   
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part 1 an 2 are genious part 3 i refuse to believe exists.

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RE: - 3/5/2008 12:43:08 AM   
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To give this a two star review is just pure idiotic. Sofia did not make me 'giggle' in the climax at all. And although the worst acting in the film comes from her, look at who she is working opposite. Basically, i can see it flaws but that does not detract from it being a rather good film. Not on a par with the original and the sequel but it was better than most films. Coppola apparently did not put as much effort as he could, and should of done into the film which is shame. But even so, i still give it 4.

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The Ugly Brother...really a Beautiful Piece. - 9/8/2008 2:59:11 PM   
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I'm not going to review Part I and II. That is because I fully stand up for Part III. The first two where classics in their own right but this one had the most beautiful and saddening story.
With Michael now facing the fact that he needs to legitimize the Family and find a new heir he looks to his brothers bastard son ,Vincent Mancini (played well by a young Andy Garcia), whilst trying to keep away from murder and the Sicilian Mafia.
The whole film plays like the opera in the film ,Cavalleria Rusticana, the biting on the ear etc.
Michael wants to get out of the life of crime he pursued so loomingly that he has to lose something..that being his daughter Mary. The scene at the end when his daughter is shot in the Teatro Massimo in Palermo is the most beautifully filmed shot in film history...in my opinion.

OVERALL

A wonderful end to a the greatest film saga of all time. Puzo originally had a script for Part IV which he gave to Paramount, Coppola and De Niro about the rise of Sonny. I think Coppola should have made Part IV like Part II. That being Sonny rising in the 30's and Vincent in the 80's.


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Sucks hard - 13/8/2008 2:39:00 AM   
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Jeez, when the godfather trilogy comes out on blu ray, I may just smash part 3 with a hammer or flush it down the toilet. It's so overstated, stupid and there's no magic evident in the first 2. I like to pretend it doesn't exist to the point where in the conversation, I would say- the two godfather films are awesome, only to be told, there's 3. That's when I remember this travesty.

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Sucks hard - 13/8/2008 2:40:49 AM   
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Jeez, when the godfather trilogy comes out on blu ray, I may just smash part 3 with a hammer or flush it down the toilet. It's so overstated, stupid and there's no magic evident in the first 2. I like to pretend it doesn't exist to the point where in the conversation, I would say- the two godfather films are awesome, only to be told, there's 3. That's when I remember this travesty.

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Sucks hard - 13/8/2008 2:42:17 AM   
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Sorry meant none of the magic that was evident in the godfather 1 and 2

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Should not be remembered as a Godfather movie - 22/12/2008 7:51:55 PM   
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Pretty good as a movie itself but not even close to being a good Godfather movie. At least one good thing was accomplished by this movie-it kicked off Garcia's career.

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THE DEATH OF MICHAEL CORLEONE WAS ALSO THE DEATH OF A B... - 5/2/2009 3:37:50 AM   
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not so terrible that it should get 2 stars or lower, but Part III of Francis Coppola's really marked the end of the franchise's brilliance. Pacino's acting was fair, and Andy Garcia leant sturdy support but it was Sofia Coppola that got under my skin.

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Good - 4/5/2009 1:17:10 AM   
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Obviously not as brilliant as parts 1 & 2 but still a sight better than most of the shite filling our screens of late!

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2 stars, lmfao - 23/6/2011 1:15:41 AM   
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It seems popular to bash this film. It's a lot better than it's given credit for

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Making Gnocchi - 11/12/2011 6:43:54 PM   
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Frankly, if Sofia Coppola was my cousin, I'd take a crack at her too. She is undeniably sexy in real world, girl-next-door terms. On screen she lacks confidence, which serves to give her an aura of vulnerablity. This in turn adds to her believability. The kitchen scene with Garcia, where they're making Gnocchi, or whatever, is one hot scene. No, the blame for Godfather 3's short-comings lay elsewhere. Certainly not in the same league as one and two, but then, what is? Especially these days. Which is why it gets an upgrade from me, to three stars.

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The Godfather Part III Review - 2/3/2012 11:51:12 PM   
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I feel that both Francis Ford Coppola and Mario Puzo shouldn't have gone for a part 3. If anyone is new to The Godfather (which I doubt) and watch this film first then you will not understand my rating. Those who are familiar with The Godfather on the other hand will understand that compared to the first two films, it's hell of a disappointment.

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Part III is very underrated - 26/7/2012 9:27:49 AM   
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Although it comes nowhere near the first two instalments, it still is a very intriguing movie. Andy Garcia is excellent in his role and Al Pacino is alright too.

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"Just when I thought I was out... they pull me bac... - 13/11/2013 7:18:52 PM   
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In solely comparing it to its predecessors, it becomes quickly evident that The Godfather Part III is an overlong, utterly pointless sequel. On its own terms, it is an ambitious, albeit grossly overestimated, piece of cinema that's as fascinating in its shortcomings as it is infuriating.

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"Just when I thought I was out... they pull me bac... - 13/11/2013 7:18:53 PM   
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In solely comparing it to its predecessors, it becomes quickly evident that The Godfather Part III is an overlong, utterly pointless sequel. On its own terms, it is an ambitious, albeit grossly overestimated, piece of cinema that's as fascinating in its shortcomings as it is infuriating.

< Message edited by movienut707 -- 13/11/2013 7:54:50 PM >

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