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John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 1/6/2007 1:36:10 AM   
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Brand new show from David Milch, the man behind Deadwood and NYPD Blue. It debuts June 10 on HBO, and it's been given the coveted time-slot following the last ever episode of The Sopranos.
 
Some promos:
 
Promo 1
Promo 2
Promo 3
Promo 4
Promo 5
 
Very strong cast: Bruce Greenwood, Rebecca De Mornay, Luis Guzman, Ed O'Neill, Luke Perry, Brian Van Holt, Austin Nichols (Morgan Earp in Deadwood), Dayton Callie (Charlie Utter in Deadwood), Garret Dillahunt (Jack McCall and Francis Wolcott in Deadwood) and Jim Beaver (Ellsworth in Deadwood)

As you can see from the above picture, there's a definite weirdness to the show. People levitate, for one.
 
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It's a story of three generations of surfing royalty. Mitch Yost (Bruce Greenwood) set the standard by which all other surfers are judged. But he drowned in the whirlpool that commercialism brought to the sport, and he's been sour about it ever since. Socially withdrawn, he now lives a monk's life with an embittered wife (Rebecca De Mornay), who runs a surf shop out of their beach house.

Despite that, Mitch's son, Butchie (Brian Van Holt, Threshold), took up the sport, too, and likewise became the king of his sport. But drug addiction took him down. Now his days are spent looking over his shoulder, on the lookout for people he owes money to or who might want to pop him.

Another Yost, Butchie's 13-year-old son Shaun, (Greyson Fletcher) may be the best surfer of the three. But he'll never be able to prove it because Mitch forbids him entering contests.

Into these lives, seemingly dropped from the sky, is a mysterious man named John. His first words, oft-repeated but spoken first to Mitch, are these: "The end is near."

John (Austin Nichols) repeats what other people say, collecting sentence fragments and recalling them in moments opportune and not. When he's asked where he's from, he remembers "Cincinnati." He has no need to use the bathroom but goes through the motions (drop trou, making noises with his mouth).

John could be a simpleton. Or he could be an alien. Or could he be a higher being?
Shortly after John's presence is made known, the lives of the Yost clan change. Butchie, who quickly befriends John, is trying to wean himself off drugs, and he's finding it easier than usual. Shaun, in turn, gets permission to enter a contest, thanks to some fast talking by Linc (Luke Perry), who wants to sponsor him. And Mitch . . . well, he thinks he might have a brain tumor because he's suddenly able to levitate.

Is John responsible for lifting the curse that has followed the Yost family for three generations?

Or could he instead be an instrument sure to lure this family into its darkest periods yet?
That will play out over an initial series allotment of 10 episodes. And with well-developed, quirky characters such as these, we can't wait to find out.

 
Hopefully a few of us will be watching, it sounds really promising. And it's Milch, the man hasn't let us down yet!

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 1/6/2007 1:56:03 AM   
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Sounds pretty good to me, and i ain't downloading anything else right now. Plus, if the guy was in anyway related to NYPD Blue, how can we not be hopeful?

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 1/6/2007 2:21:57 AM   
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Wow, Bruce Greenwood and some of my favourite Deadwood cast, count me in. I have no idea what to expect, a beach setting is a huge leap from 19th century Dakota. Should stand out quite nicely from the procedural noise. Though all this talk of "spiritual transformation" would put me off in anyone else's hands.

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 1/6/2007 7:27:33 AM   
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Looking forward to this a lot - hope it'll be good. We really need some new quality tv coming through as there's so little left to be really excited about.

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 1/6/2007 7:36:13 AM   
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I'll be watching- all I have left is to play catch up on shows I fell behind on.  Plus, this does look great.

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 1/6/2007 10:27:05 AM   
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I'm intrigued, but no more, might give it a quick download looskie.

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 1/6/2007 10:36:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Barefoot Doctor
 (Morgan Earp in Deadwood)Dayton Callie (Charlie Utter in Deadwood), Garret Dillahunt (Jack McCall and Francess Wolcott in Deadwood) and Jim Beaver (Ellsworth in Deadwood)



I think I've noticed an obscure pattern in there...

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 1/6/2007 12:12:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: elab49

quote:

ORIGINAL: Barefoot Doctor
 (Morgan Earp in Deadwood)Dayton Callie (Charlie Utter in Deadwood), Garret Dillahunt (Jack McCall and Francess Wolcott in Deadwood) and Jim Beaver (Ellsworth in Deadwood)



I think I've noticed an obscure pattern in there...


Hmm....they're all men?

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 1/6/2007 12:41:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Barefoot Doctor

quote:

ORIGINAL: elab49

quote:

ORIGINAL: Barefoot Doctor
 (Morgan Earp in Deadwood)Dayton Callie (Charlie Utter in Deadwood), Garret Dillahunt (Jack McCall and Francess Wolcott in Deadwood) and Jim Beaver (Ellsworth in Deadwood)



I think I've noticed an obscure pattern in there...


Hmm....they're all men?


And they're alll ACTORS!!! I smell elaborate government conspiracy.

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 1/6/2007 1:52:10 PM   
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Sheesh - you're all just guessing now!

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 19/6/2007 1:22:23 AM   
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So did anyone check out the first two episodes? I've only watched the first one so far and really liked it. No idea where it's going though 

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 19/6/2007 9:35:02 AM   
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I've seen the first and thought it was utterly impenetrable. I didn't really "like" it until the final surfing sequence, which added some much needed (dramatic rather than literal) levity. At the time I was going to give it another go, but right now I just can't be bothered. It's ambitious, no doubt, but Milch's rythmic dialogue seemed completely out of place (the only time it really worked was when Butchie first met John) in this environment, and I wonder if the Director wasn't clear on how much he should sell the supernatural elements. Big ideas, mishandled (the casting is off too: DeMornay is either too young or Van Holt too old), and ultimately a complete fucking mess. I'll keep up to date to see if it the general view is improvement, but right now I'm getting an overwhelming sense of "meh".




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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 30/6/2007 12:18:15 AM   
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Anyone else still watching this.Ive watched the first three eps now and am starting to be sucked in to its world. I like the paranormal angle so ill be interested to see where they go with that.Also im getting most of the humour now.At the start it was like am i supposed to laugh here but now im getting their style.Will be tuning in to sunday.Wow i thought summer was going to have little tv but ive now got 5 or 6 us shows to watch every week and Psych hasnt even started yet.

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 30/6/2007 11:54:29 AM   
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I've seen the first episode, and I liked it.  I'm not sure why, though.  Given time this could be amazing.

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 30/6/2007 4:19:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Filmic Joe

I've seen the first episode, and I liked it.  I'm not sure why, though.  Given time this could be amazing.


I know what you mean. I've loved the first three episodes but have no idea why! It's great though. John's hilarious!

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 14/8/2007 1:05:38 PM   
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Cancelled apparently. 

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 14/8/2007 4:00:08 PM   
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Well, it isn't getting renewed for a second season. Not sure if it needs to be, the finale could be seen as pretty much an end... of sorts.

Anyone else watch it? I loved it. Unlike anything I've ever seen before. The finale was superb, featuring one of the best opening scenes of any show I've ever seen! I can see why people disliked it, especially if you came to the show looking for answers and explanations but the show isn't Lost. The 'mysteries' of the show were always a bit in the background and while it could be frustrating at times, I think that's exactly how you were supposed to feel. I just went along for the ride and enjoyed the hell out of it.

It's a pity there won't be more as it's been my favourite new show of this year and one of the most compelling and interesting of recent years.

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 16/8/2007 2:09:10 AM   
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By the end of the series i was glued to every line of dialogue.Congrats to Milch and co for creating such a compelling and clever series.As for a second series i didnt think it was needed anyway as most of the story was tied up with a few strains keeping us saying wtf but in the right way.It even had what happens next to the characters moment.I hope this comes out on dvd r2 so i can watch it again sometime now i kinda know some of the mysteries of the show.

overall five star show :)


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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 16/8/2007 12:28:53 PM   
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Just watched the final episode, superb, excellent, riveting, hilarious, genius, etc etc etc.

Not sure I understood all of what was going on, Some things I know and some things I don't, but enjoyed the hell out of it none the less, the dialogue and pace of the series was spot on.

***Mild Spoilers***

Ed O'neil's 'chat' at his wife's bedside was a high point of the series for me, the return of Skippy actually made me laugh out loud like a giddy teenager on the train (watched it on my iPod) and the last line over the shot of Kai surfing made me smile all the way to work.

***End Mild Spoilers***

I think while the finale didn't answer every question the series posed, it did give a certain ammount of closure to what has been my favourite new show this year. Dissapointed that there won't be a 2nd season but pleased that the 10 episodes we do have are nigh on perfect.

The HBO site clicky has some great discussions on the show and a breakdown of each episode, particularly interesting is the transcript of John's speach from the end of episode six clicky which upon re-reading makes so much more sense.


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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 16/8/2007 4:41:59 PM   
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Wow, other people actually watched and liked this show!  I'm actually surprised

I think the last episode does work pretty well as a series finale but it could also have simlpy been a set-up for the second season, where we pick up a few months later with Cissy pregnant, the doctor's new youthful look and so on

The behind the show insights on the HBO website are a great resource too, highly recmomended. On another note, Zak Whedon, brother of Joss, wrote the finale. Kids got talent!

One thing that isn't talked about a lot (and which calhoon mentioned) is the strong sense of humur in the show. John was hilarious a lot of the time ("Butchie hurt my tit") as were the drug dealers.

It's sad to see such a great show go, especially with such little fanfare. There were a lot of haters out there from the start who didn't like what Milch was trying to do with the show (it was sort of the anti-Lost, wasn't it?). I hope that it will be remembered in years to come as a program that tried to push the medium forward.

Ultimately I thintt he show was about faith without the constraints of religion. All the characters were offered faith/redemption in the guise of John and had wildly different reactions to it (Cissy feeling she didn't deserve it, Micth unable to comprehend it without any rules or guidelines like he was used to, Butchie not knowing what the hell it is cos' it's something completely alien to him, the doctor trying to rationalize it through science and coming to terms with being unable to do so etc. etc.)

It's been my favourite show of the year, without a doubt. "Meet the fucking Jetsons!"

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RE: John From Cincinnati - U.S Speed - 16/8/2007 9:47:47 PM   
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Glad there is a few of us that enjoyed the show.

Captain Black - You really should watch all ten episodes, yes the dialogue is jarring at times and some of the characters don't quite work (De Mornay I got my eye on YOU) but it is an immensely rewarding series. Not to everyones taste, and most of the hate has been from Deadwood fans blaming Milch for doing this instead of it, but challenging, off the wall shows like this don't come along very often.

I'm glad HBO and Milch gave the series a decent send off, being left mid way through this with nothing but questions would have frustrated beyond belief. I quite like the idea of them doing 'TV Novels' or 'Maxi series' in this way, ten chapters of a damn good show is better than being treated to the usual dross the networks churn out. Not everything can be The Sopranos or Lost. Let's be thankful that their are networks that are willing to invest in shows like this, whether it is 'your bag' or not.

Bill Jacks (Ed O' Neil) has been one of my favourite characters in any TV show in quite some time, the way his fury and frustration is bubbling just under the surface was fabulous. and his delivery of "Jesus Christ...Jesus Christ...JESUS CHRIST" is to be my new catchphrase


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