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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 10:46:23 AM   
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Intresting, no shooting you down, everyone is different

For me Bioshock is the first game in ages where I didn't actually ever want to turn it off, and once I did, I wanted to get back to it and play some more...Whereas the Darkness which I'm going to finish soon , really lost me at the War section, and even once I was passed that it has struggled to keep me interested.

Both games definitely started better than they finished, the first few hours odd on Bioshock where just superb stuff imo.


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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 11:32:35 AM   
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Intresting, no shooting you down, everyone is different

For me Bioshock is the first game in ages where I didn't actually ever want to turn it off, and once I did, I wanted to get back to it and play some more...Whereas the Darkness which I'm going to finish soon , really lost me at the War section, and even once I was passed that it has struggled to keep me interested.

Both games definitely started better than they finished, the first few hours odd on Bioshock where just superb stuff imo.



Agreed about The Darkness WWI sections, although I had no trouble what so ever getting back into the groove after them, if anything it just made me appreciate the NY levels even more. I actually thought Bioshock was at it's strongest during the gardens and Cohen's masterpiece missions, before and after that (whilst still pretty good) didn't hold my attention quite as well.

My head tells me Bioshock is the better game, for numerous seemingly obvious reasons, it's more consistant, offers more of a challenge, has a far more in depth power/weapon upgrade system and so forth etc, etc. For the few hours where The Darkness was firing on all cylinders though, it's the game I'm most glad I played, it's hard to explain. Same goes for Condemned, I'll be the first to admit that without that narrative or atmosphere it would probably be the most repetitive bag of wank going, but there's just something about it that grabbed me.

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 11:44:18 AM   
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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 12:37:53 PM   
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I am hoping this game is a slow burner and gets better because although I am enjoying playing it, I don't feel like I am enjoying it enough to warrant the reviews it has been given. I have no idea how far into the game I am, but I have currently arrived at the fishers market and had all my weapons taken from me.

I guess the reason I say that I should be enjoying it more is because I picked up Half Life 2 recently (as most of you know) and found myself trying to play the game everytime I had some spare time on my hands. Heck, there were even times I was playing it before work and found myself loving nearly every minute of it. This hasn't happened with Bioshock yet. I installed it Sunday night and since then have played it three times. At the moment it is not the type of game that makes me go "I need to play this game again, right now!". Hopefully it ends up becoming that, but at the moment it is merely a game I can pass the time with now and then.


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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 1:11:48 PM   
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I am hoping this game is a slow burner and gets better because although I am enjoying playing it, I don't feel like I am enjoying it enough to warrant the reviews it has been given. I have no idea how far into the game I am, but I have currently arrived at the fishers market and had all my weapons taken from me.


I must admit I'm starting to agree with you. I've just got past the Farmers market. Even the Rosies are easy to take down now.

It's still good but not as good as I hoped.


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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 1:31:15 PM   
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For the most part I have left the Rosie's because all they do is give you cash and waste your ammo for when you find the Big Daddies. 4 or 5 prox mines and a few armour piercing rounds seem to do the job just fine on them which has eased their killings.

But yes, as of yet I have not experienced anything that would make it something that would be granted a 10/10. A solid shooter, but not a masterpiece.


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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 1:39:43 PM   
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For the most part I have left the Rosie's because all they do is give you cash and waste your ammo for when you find the Big Daddies.



Rosie's are big daddies


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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 1:44:42 PM   
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I know, but they don't have the little girls with them 

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 1:46:56 PM   
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They do if you follow them, they'll walk up to a pipe, bash on it and a little sister will crawl out.

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 1:55:15 PM   
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Ah right, cool. Didn't know that. 

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 2:45:59 PM   
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I know, but they don't have the little girls with them 


um.yes,they do you fight more of them than big daddies so youre losing a shitload of adam if you ignore them


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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 3:00:58 PM   
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They do if you follow them, they'll walk up to a pipe, bash on it and a little sister will crawl out.

Isn't there a limited number per level? I often see Big Daddies wandering around on their own after I harvest the little sisters.


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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 4:35:46 PM   
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  • The view that man was ever to be drawn by some vision of the unattainable shining ahead, doomed ever to aspire, but not to achieve. My life and my values could not bring me to that, I had never found beauty in longing for the impossible and had never found the possible to be beyond my reach.
  • I take no pride in hopeless longing; I wouldnt hold a stillborn aspiration. Id want to have it, to make it, to live it.
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  • There is no meaning in motors or factories or trains, that their only meaning is in mans enjoyment of his life, which they servedand that my swelling admiration at the sight of an achievement was for the man from whom it came, for the power and the radiant vision within him which had seen the earth as a place of enjoyment and had known that the work of achieving ones happiness was the purpose, the sanction and the meaning of life.
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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 4:38:21 PM   
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Etc. You should all read the book.

Ps. Look under the picture of chappy and the showgirl in the "Would You Kindly?" bit at the end.


That's YOU that is.


Still prefer the Darkness. Dude rocks.




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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 5:03:13 PM   
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They do if you follow them, they'll walk up to a pipe, bash on it and a little sister will crawl out.

Isn't there a limited number per level? I often see Big Daddies wandering around on their own after I harvest the little sisters.



theres a set amoutn of sisters,press start and itll show how many on the bottom of the screen, but once you harvest them the big daddies still wander around on the same set pattern


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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 5:25:33 PM   
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They do if you follow them, they'll walk up to a pipe, bash on it and a little sister will crawl out.

Isn't there a limited number per level? I often see Big Daddies wandering around on their own after I harvest the little sisters.



theres a set amoutn of sisters,press start and itll show how many on the bottom of the screen, but once you harvest them the big daddies still wander around on the same set pattern


Yeah theres an unlimited number of big daddies as they respawn, but there's a set limit of little sisters so if a little sister disappears while you're in the middle of a fight with a big daddy, you may aswell finish killing him and just wait until you find another big daddy with another little sister or for one to go and get a little sister out of a pipe.


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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 7:26:31 PM   
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Question for those on the second run through, does the game keep track of your stats on a second play-through or am I actually going to have to invent 100 items as opposed to the remaining number from my previous go?


I second this? Any ideas?


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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 7/9/2007 7:29:09 PM   
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You have to do it again, unless you backtrack from a previous save.

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 8/9/2007 10:42:06 PM   
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I am hoping this game is a slow burner and gets better because although I am enjoying playing it, I don't feel like I am enjoying it enough to warrant the reviews it has been given. I have no idea how far into the game I am, but I have currently arrived at the fishers market and had all my weapons taken from me.

I guess the reason I say that I should be enjoying it more is because I picked up Half Life 2 recently (as most of you know) and found myself trying to play the game everytime I had some spare time on my hands. Heck, there were even times I was playing it before work and found myself loving nearly every minute of it. This hasn't happened with Bioshock yet. I installed it Sunday night and since then have played it three times. At the moment it is not the type of game that makes me go "I need to play this game again, right now!". Hopefully it ends up becoming that, but at the moment it is merely a game I can pass the time with now and then.



I've been playing again for a few hours today and I feel exactly the same.  I'm back on Oblivion again now as it just doesn't seem to be grabbing me. 

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 10/9/2007 9:48:06 AM   
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Played it through twice now, loved every second of it, easily one of the best games I've played on the 360, the only down point is I found the hacking mini game so tedious towards the end

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 10/9/2007 12:40:36 PM   
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I have to admit i dont think this game has good as its made out to be, sure its enjoyable but a 10/10 game it isn't.My main problem is with the resurection points mean theres no point trying to stay alive at times- an  alarms going off your being attacked- just allow your self to die and respawn in a safer area why waste medkits, ammo etc when dying is an easier option?

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 10/9/2007 12:57:28 PM   
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Brilliant game, played through it on each difficulty setting & got all achievements.Does anyone know if any extra achievements will be coming out for it because if not i'm trading it in.

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 11/9/2007 1:29:41 PM   
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I've been playing again for a few hours today and I feel exactly the same.  I'm back on Oblivion again now as it just doesn't seem to be grabbing me. 


Well, I have had parts of the weekend and yesterday to get some more game time in on it and as of yet have not even attempted to try and play it.

I guess that kind of shows you what I think of the game now.

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 11/9/2007 4:07:00 PM   
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Got to Arcadia, the forest section so far and Im loving it, the shoot outs are great and can be played very tactically. The graphics and art direction are superb as is the voice acting and the plot so far (although the plot seems strikingly like System Shock 2, Im only partially through it so time will tell.)

Bioshock is a great game so far but its no Half-Life 2.

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 11/9/2007 4:10:36 PM   
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finished it on medium then hard, now playing it on easy and im harvesting every LS in the game, its so much more fun on easy, killing people with whiskey bottles and their own hats, heres a tip, light a gas puddle on fire, kill someone, use telekenesis to pick up their body,float it over the fire,ignite it, chuck in to group of baddies standing around explosive barrels, comedy death fun!

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 11/9/2007 4:45:12 PM   
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A question for the chaps that have finished it a few times, how many endings are there? one good and one evil? (Please be wary of spoilers, Im only quater of the way through my first play), cheers.

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 11/9/2007 11:04:57 PM   
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A question for the chaps that have finished it a few times, how many endings are there? one good and one evil? (Please be wary of spoilers, Im only quater of the way through my first play), cheers.


there are only two endings, regardless of whatever level you play it at and the ending is dictated by your decision to rescue or harvest.

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 12/9/2007 12:53:09 PM   
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Slightly of topic but on later levels is anyone experienceing some pretty bad slow down?

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 12/9/2007 1:00:40 PM   
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Slightly of topic but on later levels is anyone experienceing some pretty bad slow down?



PC or 360?

360 version was pretty much smooth sailing 99.9% of the time, for me at least.

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RE: Bioshock- Welcome To Rapture - 12/9/2007 1:02:23 PM   
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