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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 23/7/2011 6:38:21 PM   
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Why did this film cause controversy when it came out?



The only 'controversy' may be that once Deckard's narration and the 'happy ending' had been removed as well as the addition of the 'Unicorn Dream' sequence for the 1992 Director's Cut, it presented fans with a different version of the film. Not controversial upon it's initial 1982 release.


Wasn't the problem that the "happy ending" and the narration were enforced by Warner Bros and that Ridley Scott didn't want them. I know Ford has certainly made his feelings on the narration pretty clear.


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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 24/7/2011 6:46:52 PM   
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Final saw the Director's Cut on Friday night, and while it is not that much different to the oringal I do think it makes for a much darker and more intertesting ending which leaves the viewer to wonder.

Also the narration idea was just terrible, and never would have worked.

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BLADE RUNNER - 26/7/2011 9:33:09 PM   
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I'm re-watching right now - the original 1982 version from my nice new 5-disc U.S. blu-ray set. It's funny listening to that narration and the wires on the spinners are so obvious! Still a stunningly beautiful film though. Woulda been sooooo cool if we were given the option to have the original, untouched theatrical versions of the original STAR WARS trilogy as well.

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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 26/7/2011 10:56:32 PM   
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I only saw Blade Runner for the first time the other day. Sure I'd caught the whatever version happened to be on in the past (arent there like 3 or 4?!) but this was the first time I'd seen the final cut. Having only ever saw bits and pieces of scenes it was about time I sat through the whole thing. Loved it. It's a bit slow but I don't mean that in a bad way. It just seems to be longer than it actually is. But the story and characters are mint. Surprised this was never turned into a franchise! I'd say if it had of been made today that would be the case.

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BLADE RUNNER - 3/8/2011 7:22:12 PM   
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Check this out -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajK1ISnbMsU&feature=youtube_gdata

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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 3/8/2011 7:40:48 PM   
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Blade Runner was ruined for me years ago in A level media studies where we sat and dissected the movie endlessly. Ever since then i just can't watch it. Shame, as it was an alright movie before i got sick of it!

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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 3/8/2011 7:55:45 PM   
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Blade Runner was ruined for me years ago in A level media studies where we sat and dissected the movie endlessly. Ever since then i just can't watch it. Shame, as it was an alright movie before i got sick of it!


Aw man, that's a shame. It really is a fantastic film but if it was forced upon you in a Media Studies class, I understand what you mean DK - same thing happened to me when I did Media Studies & Techniques GNVQ and had to study 'Citizen Kane'. It bored me to tears.

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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 3/8/2011 8:04:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: The REAL Bozz

I only saw Blade Runner for the first time the other day. Sure I'd caught the whatever version happened to be on in the past (arent there like 3 or 4?!) but this was the first time I'd seen the final cut. Having only ever saw bits and pieces of scenes it was about time I sat through the whole thing. Loved it. It's a bit slow but I don't mean that in a bad way. It just seems to be longer than it actually is. But the story and characters are mint. Surprised this was never turned into a franchise! I'd say if it had of been made today that would be the case.


It was one of the biggest flops of the 80s, Bozz.


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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 4/8/2011 10:43:01 AM   
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Really? I thought it was a big deal back in the day! So in theory Skyline could well be Blade Runner in another 15 years??

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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 4/8/2011 12:58:35 PM   
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I enjoy Skyline more!

Btw Skyline was nowhere near a flop, it was a huge success as the budget was so low and it made it back many times over

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BLADE RUNNER - 4/8/2011 8:24:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: The REAL Bozz

Really? I thought it was a big deal back in the day! So in theory Skyline could well be Blade Runner in another 15 years??



Snake-Eyes has not seen SKYLINE and therefore cannot comment but it's a very different type of Sci-Fi film to BLADE RUNNER.

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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 4/8/2011 8:37:43 PM   
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I enjoy Skyline more!



Goddamit DK....


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BLADE RUNNER - 4/8/2011 8:50:22 PM   
Snake-Eyes


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Screw it. I'm gonna pop the blu-ray into the player. I think it was all that working in the rain earlier - got me in the mood.

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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 4/8/2011 9:11:29 PM   
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I enjoy Skyline more!

Btw Skyline was nowhere near a flop, it was a huge success as the budget was so low and it made it back many times over


Where's that facepalm picture?

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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 4/8/2011 9:15:18 PM   
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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 4/8/2011 9:18:03 PM   
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Thank you muchly.

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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 4/8/2011 9:30:57 PM   
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I enjoy Skyline more!



Goddamit DK....



Youre actually surprised?


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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 8/8/2011 5:50:37 AM   
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I've never actually read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" - the original story by Phillip K. Dick and so I'm thinking of ordering it soon. Has anyone here read it? Any thoughts? And how about the 'sequel novels' by K.W. Jeter...?

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BLADE RUNNER - 8/8/2011 5:54:18 AM   
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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 8/8/2011 11:14:31 AM   
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I've never actually read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" - the original story by Phillip K. Dick and so I'm thinking of ordering it soon. Has anyone here read it? Any thoughts? And how about the 'sequel novels' by K.W. Jeter...?


Electric Sheep is somewhat different to the movie, although the spirit is there.

As for the book sequels to the movie - avoid.


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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 8/8/2011 1:08:37 PM   
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avoid.


This. Definitely this.

Dick's original book is just fine, as most of his stuff is, and, as RGirvan said, it is different. But, out of the book and the film, I prefer the film.

Actually, it's not Dick's best book, but it is well worth a read.


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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 8/8/2011 1:11:58 PM   
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I actully prefer Dick's short stories to his books. 

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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 10/8/2011 12:20:29 AM   
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I actully prefer Dick. 


Hehe.


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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 10/8/2011 1:13:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Snake-Eyes

I've never actually read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" - the original story by Phillip K. Dick and so I'm thinking of ordering it soon. Has anyone here read it? Any thoughts? And how about the 'sequel novels' by K.W. Jeter...?


Electric Sheep is somewhat different to the movie, although the spirit is there.

As for the book sequels to the movie - avoid.



Yep, avoid the sequel books and locate a copy of the Blade Runner computer game instead. That's a more than worthy sequel despite the differing medium...

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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 10/8/2011 1:15:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Snake-Eyes


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Why did this film cause controversy when it came out?



The only 'controversy' may be that once Deckard's narration and the 'happy ending' had been removed as well as the addition of the 'Unicorn Dream' sequence for the 1992 Director's Cut, it presented fans with a different version of the film. Not controversial upon it's initial 1982 release.


Wasn't the problem that the "happy ending" and the narration were enforced by Warner Bros and that Ridley Scott didn't want them. I know Ford has certainly made his feelings on the narration pretty clear.



I think that's the myth behind the reality. The decsion to add the narration and happy ending was based on test audiences not really getting Scott's initial cut of the film and it was a decision that Scott didn't disagree with...

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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 11/8/2011 12:25:50 PM   
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I've never actually read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" - the original story by Phillip K. Dick and so I'm thinking of ordering it soon. Has anyone here read it? Any thoughts? And how about the 'sequel novels' by K.W. Jeter...?


Hey Snake,

Yeah, definitely worth reading Electric Sheep - I've read it twice and intend to read it again soon. I do think the film actually does a better job of the material, though this may be unfair as the medium allows for rainy visuals, dimly-lit settings and the best score ever. PKD had only paper and ink, but it's still great.

Give Dr Bloodmoney a go at some point - very different from Electric Sheep but the best PKD book I've read.

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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 11/8/2011 4:21:42 PM   
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I was browsing this forum today, decided to join and then found this wonderful thread :)

Blade Runner, as you can tell by my username, is one of my favourite movies. It appeals to me on an aesthetic and philosophical level. I love the whole cyberpunk idea. You know, despite the high level of technology, the place is overpopulated, buildings falling apart, it's raining all the time and so forth. There's also, on a philosophical level, that big question about, 'identity'.

I hope they don't try and remake this, like the rumours have said. Ridley Scott, Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer and the soundtrack of Vangelis were just perfect

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BLADE RUNNER - 16/8/2011 12:56:41 AM   
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Its a nice movie... The way he moves the sword..its amazing



Ha Ha Ha!!!! WTF?!

Don't ya just LOVE these f**king donuts who show up for about three posts of utter bulls**t?

Anyhoo, thanks for the feedback concerning the BR books; Snake-Eyes will go ahead and read the original PKD novel soon.


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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 16/8/2011 1:01:25 PM   
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Ha Ha Ha!!!! WTF?!

Don't ya just LOVE these f**king donuts who show up for about three posts of utter bulls**t?


Yeah.

I also enjoyed the bit where Rutger Hauer rides that dragon which eats a boat.


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RE: BLADE RUNNER - 16/8/2011 1:17:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD

I enjoy Skyline more!



Goddamit DK....



Youre actually surprised?



Seriously DK, enough is enough

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