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Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 7:44:24 PM   
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Ok, before I run and hide from the torrent of abuse thats about to fly!

Does anyone, anyone, anyone think that The Chronicles of Riddick was actually a bit misunderstood and was actually quite enjoyable?!

I say this because Riddick as a character is still interesting, (and even people who hate Vin Diesel must admit that it was a great turn by him in Pitch Black, and even if you think Pitch Black was a slight Alien rip-off it was very good!). Does anyone think Twohy just introduced a quite Dune like extravagance and pure sci-fi worlds and characters that jarred with the first film (Necromongers, Furions etc) in Chronicles? Too much to take or just a bad movie?

I think aspects of the film are fantastic, the War like invasion scenes, Riddick (obviously) the Special effects etc, and the ending left me actually wanting to see a bit more of what happens next!

C'mon, before you get the Uzi's out at least humour me by saying it's a guilty pleasure!?!? Or is there SOMEONE who likes it.
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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 7:45:56 PM   
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I thought it was good. Not a patch on pitch black, but I did enjoy chronicals

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 7:46:41 PM   
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I thought it was good. Not a patch on pitch black, but I did enjoy chronicals


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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 7:48:50 PM   
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I loved it, and never got the hatred for it.

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 8:01:48 PM   
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I loved it, and never got the hatred for it.


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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 8:05:36 PM   
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Personally, I thought it was a great movie. Not as good as Pitch Black, but an interesting film nonetheless. I never understood the hatred either - perhaps becuase it didn't live up to all the hype and success of it's predecessor.

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 8:06:21 PM   
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I've not seen Chronicles, but even the trailor made it look shit. Tell me, is this a future discovered classic, or is it just shit? 

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 8:06:48 PM   
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I also love it and wish they would continue the series. Riddick killing that guy with the cup always makes me smile.

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 8:10:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dark Knight

Personally, I thought it was a great movie. Not as good as Pitch Black, but an interesting film nonetheless. I never understood the hatred either - perhaps becuase it didn't live up to all the hype and success of it's predecessor.


Agreed

Maybe it was like I said, that the elements of pure sci-fi that were brought into the film, and the vast scale it tried to achieve jarred with critics and audiences that were expecting something more gritty like Pitch Black? It was quite a departure from the first movie I'll give it that, but I really bought into Riddick's world and the Necromongers (bit of a dodgy name though!).

The Furion element was good too. And I think the ending, without giving anything away, was great and really well choreographed. I still don't understand the bile towards it but then I think I bought into the Riddick character a lot and went along for the ride!

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ORIGINAL: TheGreatEye

I've not seen Chronicles, but even the trailor made it look shit. Tell me, is this a future discovered classic, or is it just shit? 


Future discovered classic I tell ya!


(ok, maybe not classic but not as dreadful as people said!)




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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 8:14:21 PM   
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i remember renting this out of sheer curiosity thinking it might be shit but i was in the mood for a sci-fi movie.i was pleasantly surprised.while not great by any means,its an enjoyable sci-fi action flick.

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 8:26:13 PM   
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i really wanted to like it but some parts are so cheesy and naff,they took what was a great premise and made it into a silly sci-fi universe, the names of the planets and races were so cliche (riddick is a furion,cos ,y'know,hes furious) and the whole thing about the underverse and all that nonsense,the xbox game is miles better than the story for this,pity though as the effects are sets are great

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 8:34:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: krudler

(riddick is a furion,cos ,y'know,hes furious)




The names are silly (Necromongers - they're dead see? Crematoria is a planet thats hot! etc... )
But there are some great ideas, but like I said, maybe too much pure sci-fi 'nonsense' that people didn't like.

I agree about the X-Box game, it was really good. Great designs and good story.

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 8:41:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pablohoolio

quote:

ORIGINAL: krudler

(riddick is a furion,cos ,y'know,hes furious)




The names are silly (Necromongers - they're dead see? Crematoria is a planet thats hot! etc... )
But there are some great ideas, but like I said, maybe too much pure sci-fi 'nonsense' that people didn't like.

I agree about the X-Box game, it was really good. Great designs and good story.


theres a line in the extended cut that made me piss myself,when the main villain declares "today ive lost the purifier!" when his nazi looking sidekick is killed,it was like he misplaced a kitchen utensil or something,same when riddick declares "its been a long time since i smelled beautiful..." its like hes referring to himself lol

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 8:47:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: krudler

theres a line in the extended cut that made me piss myself,when the main villain declares "today ive lost the purifier!" when his nazi looking sidekick is killed,it was like he misplaced a kitchen utensil or something,same when riddick declares "its been a long time since i smelled beautiful..." its like hes referring to himself lol



Never thought of the 'beautiful' line like that before!

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 8:51:05 PM   
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Its better than Serenity!!!!!!!!!!!

Honestly really like the film loads.  I prefer the unrated version and wished they put most of it in the theatrical release minus the freaky Furion bird who gives Riddick energy near the end.  That version introduced Keira better and added more to Karl Urbans Macbeth-esque sub-plot.  The ending especailly which, while almost the same, had a few cuts that made it more dark.

I've alwasy liked it and thought it was unfairly blasted by critics who labelled it the new Battlefield Earth.  Even early screening went well and got some decent reviewes over on AICN et all so I was surprised with the hammering it got.


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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 9:36:06 PM   
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It's an over-blown pile of self indulgent shit that had idea's above it's station. Thank god there won't be a third!

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 9:53:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: EVILSPEAK

It's an over-blown pile of self indulgent shit that had idea's above it's station. Thank god there won't be a third!


Evil can you change your avatar or put a warning up about flashing imagery?!?!


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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 10:13:20 PM   
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It had potential but was wrapped up with a bit to much pretentious drivel to elevate it above mediocre.  A decent character just a shame he was reduced in the manner he was.

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 10:24:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pablohoolio


quote:

ORIGINAL: EVILSPEAK

It's an over-blown pile of self indulgent shit that had idea's above it's station. Thank god there won't be a third!


Evil can you change your avatar or put a warning up about flashing imagery?!?!



Your not epileptic are you?

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 10:26:32 PM   
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Its better than Serenity!!!!!!!!!!!


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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 10:28:56 PM   
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I thought Pitch Black was rubbish, so I have no hopes for this film.

By "misunderstood" do you mean "rubbish"?


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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 11:01:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: EVILSPEAK

quote:

ORIGINAL: pablohoolio

Evil can you change your avatar or put a warning up about flashing imagery?!?!



Your not epileptic are you?




No (my brother is though)

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ORIGINAL: Mikey C

By "misunderstood" do you mean "rubbish"?



You wouldn't have asked that if you read the first post surely?


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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 11:32:12 PM   
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Sci-fi should be overblown, hard to understand and packed to the flux capacitor full of silly names and pointy ears!
The key world we are looking for here is ...FUN!
Who cares if it doesn't make sense?
Who cares if the beginning of the prequal doesn't match up to the end of the sequal?
Pitch Black was an awsome film. Chronicles was an enjoyable film. Both films made you forget the grind that is 'real life' for two hours.
Isn't that the point?

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 17/3/2007 11:49:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Oddboy

Sci-fi should be overblown, hard to understand and packed to the flux capacitor full of silly names and pointy ears!
The key world we are looking for here is ...FUN!
Who cares if it doesn't make sense?
Who cares if the beginning of the prequal doesn't match up to the end of the sequal?
Pitch Black was an awsome film. Chronicles was an enjoyable film. Both films made you forget the grind that is 'real life' for two hours.
Isn't that the point?


Amen to that!


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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 18/3/2007 12:16:04 AM   
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I think that as with the matrix  there was an expectation set with the characters that the sequels didn't live up to, hence the frustration/dislike.
Some nice imagery in Chronicles, prision level thing seemed to be lifted out of "Fortress" with a touch of  Alien3 griminess though.

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 18/3/2007 12:28:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Oddboy

Sci-fi should be overblown, hard to understand and packed to the flux capacitor full of silly names and pointy ears!
The key world we are looking for here is ...FUN!
Who cares if it doesn't make sense?
Who cares if the beginning of the prequal doesn't match up to the end of the sequal?
Pitch Black was an awsome film. Chronicles was an enjoyable film. Both films made you forget the grind that is 'real life' for two hours.
Isn't that the point?


Yes.Yes it is,especially with sci-fi,it's as escapist as you can get.As far as escapist fantasy goes I'd much rather watch this
than something like Pirates of the Carribean.
I love my sci-fi and I loved Riddick.Great cast,excellent costumes,silly names,over-the-top hero,Shakespearian references
and the amazing Thandie Newton.Great stuff!!One of the few films where the CGI was a worthy addition to the spectacle.
I never listen to the critics when it comes to sci-fi because they inevitably rip into it,especially sequels and it's obvious most
of them just don't like Vin Diesel.
This is exactly what I want from my sci-fi,some reluctant galactic hero zapping around the universe taking on the bad guys,
epic shit with lots of strange planets and space ships and alien beasties.Makes a welcome change from hapless,doomed
alien invasion of Earth stories with virtually the same endings.
Bring on more Riddick sequels.

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 18/3/2007 7:44:00 AM   
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Its a crap film. That is all

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 18/3/2007 9:21:19 AM   
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Its a crap film. That is all


BOOO!

I actually was forced to see it (don't like sci-fi movies and thought Pitch Black was alright). It definetely has a problem with a basic narrative structure...but it actually is a good movie. The themes in it were rather good ( Religion was handled rather well), the effects were nice and it was visually beautiful. The names were ridiculous...but for all it's short comings it was actually rather good. 6/10

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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 18/3/2007 10:55:43 AM   
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I surprised myself when watching it, as I really enjoyed it too. In fact, if I had to choose to watch one of the 2 films again I'd choose Chronicles over Pitch Black. Yeah its by no means a perfect film, but its certainly enjoyable fun, and whenever I caught it halfway through on Sky Movies I ended up watching it again.

I'd definitely want to see another in the chronicles.


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RE: Chronicles of Riddick - misunderstood?!?! - 18/3/2007 10:57:04 AM   
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I saw this on DVD a while back and I remember nothing about it.

That says it all.

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