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OZ - 13/3/2007 9:51:29 AM   
Clarence Worley


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Just picked up the first season after missing it first time round, really enjoyed it and although it does look a little dated!! was thinkin of pickin up series 2 and 3. They havent been released in the UK so was wondering if they were much cop, any views - are they worth getting??

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RE: OZ - 13/3/2007 10:07:36 AM   
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Absolutely  - IMO Oz was one of the best shows on TV and its treatment by Ch4 was nothing short of criminal (no pun intended).  I've got all six seasons on R1 and keep going back to them again and again.  Those characters you delighted in from Season 1 have arcs that last the whole 6 seasons - the ones that survive that is, because if there's one thing that can be said of the writers it was that they weren't scared to kill off the stars!  72 characters bite the dust over the 6-season run - that's even more than in 24!

The character rotation may have been high, but it allowed so many new ones to be introduced each year, with new plotlines to go with them.  Because of this the show was never dull, never lost its edge and always retained the ability to shock.  And how could you not love a show with the great JK Simmons in it?

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RE: OZ - 13/3/2007 1:40:58 PM   
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Really a must-see. Ditto everything Sharkboy says, although I only have seasons 1-5 at the moment. The quality of acting and writing is way beyond most TV and in terms of the story developing organically from its characters only shows like stablemate The Wire, IMO, are superior. And you see the alumni everywhere these days, even in The Wire.

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RE: OZ - 13/3/2007 1:41:51 PM   
Clarence Worley


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Excellent thanks, i will see if i can pick them up cheap off ebay - on a side note what a great performance b y Harold Perrineau Jr as the narrator, i didnt really rate him in Lost, but it goes to show how much of a difference a good character makes - thoroughly enjoyable and pretty shocking

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RE: OZ - 13/3/2007 5:05:09 PM   
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Oz is easily one of the best shows ever made. If not THE best show HBO has done (it was their first 1hr drama by the way)
As someone previous said, its also a show that works well under repeat viewing. ive seen it 3 times so far and each time you start again at season 1, you remember all the characters that come and go 'wow id forggoten about him'


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RE: OZ - 13/3/2007 5:09:51 PM   
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I loved OZ. Even when it got really stupid (the aging program anyone?) and the characters changed their personalities all the time, it was still better than most things on tv.

But mostly I remember it for the amazing chemistry of Keller and Beecher. One of tvs best couples.

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RE: OZ - 13/3/2007 5:21:45 PM   
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iv been meaning to pick up this show on dvd, iv heard its great.


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RE: OZ - 13/3/2007 6:25:53 PM   
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iv been meaning to pick up this show on dvd, iv heard its great.



It's fucking excellent (one of the best dvd investments you will ever make). I was so chuffed when season one finally got released recently on dvd. Buy it with utter confidence and pray the following 5 seasons get a swift release!

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RE: OZ - 13/3/2007 6:33:47 PM   
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I'm loving this show. JK Simmons is especially fantastic.

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RE: OZ - 13/3/2007 6:42:22 PM   
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Oz is one of my favourite shows of all time - love it. Count how many murders Ryan O'Reily is responsible for - either directly or indirectly!

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RE: OZ - 20/3/2007 11:33:34 PM   
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Agreed, just watched first 4 episodes and its fantastic....

Enjoying playing 'spot who went on to bigger TV shows.....'

So far....

The Wire: Bodie, Cutty and Burrell
Lost: Michael and Eko

Not to mention Carmela Soprano and several others who have starred in movies and I cannot be bothered to look up on IMDB

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RE: OZ - 20/3/2007 11:49:48 PM   
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Yes, many a TV star started on Oz. I know Edie Falco from Oz before The Sopranos. Mr. Eko was always Adebessi to me! He's a great character.

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RE: OZ - 18/4/2007 4:14:45 PM   
Clarence Worley


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thought id update - 2 episodes left of season 4 - what a show though easily in my top 3 of all time, gripping !!! cant wait to watch the rest, and whoever mentioned JK Simmons, great shout - hes brilliant!!

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RE: OZ - 18/4/2007 4:38:56 PM   
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Respect also to Lee Tergesen as Beecher.  He must have really enjoyed filming the second last episode of season 1.  Those who have seen it know what I'm talking about.

Eamonn Walker is also pretty awesome as Said, but to be honest the majority of the cast are excellent.

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RE: OZ - 18/4/2007 5:39:49 PM   
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Finished the 1st season recently. The last two episodes were fantastic. The Beecher and Schillinger storyline has definetly been the best.

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RE: OZ - 8/5/2007 11:18:09 PM   
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Finished it all off - and what can i say, what a fantastic show takes you through a rollercoaster of emotions and some of the best acting i have ever seen ...... i can but recommend it to you, you will not be dissapointed

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RE: OZ - 9/5/2007 12:44:18 AM   
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quote:

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Finished the 1st season recently. The last two episodes were fantastic. The Beecher and Schillinger storyline has definetly been the best.


Schillinger was an absolute evil bastard to poor old Tobias. There are so many memorable characters. I mean who doesn't love Adebesi?

The Beecher/Schilinger thing gets more twisted through the series. Enjoy!

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RE: OZ - 9/5/2007 1:53:13 PM   
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I was watching Six Feet Under the other day, and David and Keith were watching an episode of Oz. Some guy was telling Beecher "Oz didn't make you a bitch; you were born one". David and Keith seemed very turned on.

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RE: OZ - 10/5/2007 2:10:44 PM   
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Ive been playing Oz-Watch for years now and its really amazing just how many things you watch where they pop up. I would list them here but you couldnt cope with the sheer amount of text...

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RE: OZ - 10/5/2007 2:18:09 PM   
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What is distrubring about Oz is how Chris Keller ends up being a lead detective investigating sex crimes in Law and Order:SVU. I cant help think that the twist in that series is going to be the fact he is causing them all

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RE: OZ - 10/5/2007 5:33:05 PM   
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quote:

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What is distrubring about Oz is how Chris Keller ends up being a lead detective investigating sex crimes in Law and Order:SVU. I cant help think that the twist in that series is going to be the fact he is causing them all


I alaways found that curious myself

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RE: OZ - 10/5/2007 10:41:19 PM   
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What is distrubring about Oz is how Chris Keller ends up being a lead detective investigating sex crimes in Law and Order:SVU. I cant help think that the twist in that series is going to be the fact he is causing them all


Do you know what's really odd about that?

In Oz is part of a prison in Baltimore right? Well the governor was in a a few times over the course of the series. Well, as you may know Homicide: Life On The Streets was set in Baltimore. The same guy who played the governor in Oz was the assistant DA in Homicide. Which is where Det. Munch comes in. Munch is in L&O: SVU too right? So in my weird view they're all part of the same universe so Keller is actually playing a cop while existing as an inmate in Oz.

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RE: OZ - 11/5/2007 10:13:43 AM   
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i dont think it is ever mentioned where it is set - except for it being in the North East - but good randomness nonetheless!!!

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RE: OZ - 16/5/2007 10:50:13 PM   
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Does anyone know of a date for season 2 on dvd?  In my season 1 box it says it's due this month and season 3 in September, although I've been quite impatient and have nearly finished season 3 online.

I've also been calling people prag a hell of a lot lately.

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RE: OZ - 21/5/2007 2:48:11 PM   
Clarence Worley


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I've also been calling people prag a hell of a lot lately.



brilliant!!

Ended up picking S2 etc on R1 i think you can pick series 1-6 boxset of amazon for approx 100 with free delivery 


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RE: OZ - 1/7/2007 3:09:21 AM   
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Finshed watching the whole thing recently.  It is now without a doubt my second favourite tv show ever after "I, Claudius".

Ryan O'Reily is just an amazing character who is slimy, manipulative and double-crossing but still very likeable.  Adebisi is incredible, and worth watching for the hat alone.  The relationship between Beecher and Keller is fascinating too. 

As for Schillinger: perhaps the greatest love-to-hate character ever.  He's cruel, sadistic and ruthless(but enough about his sons), yet you can't deny he's great to watch.  Well done J.K Simmons.

Timmy Kirk was pretty cool too.  If he and Ryan O'Reily could've worked together they might have made the Irish top dogs in the whole prison.

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RE: OZ - 2/7/2007 1:30:22 PM   
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It got a bit silly and rushed in the last series, the writers seemed in too much of a hurry to do nasty things to the characters, it would be set up one week and carried out the next. Which was a shame, one of the strengths to OZ was the build up and tension before a death/rape/mutilation or whatever. JK Simmons is one of the best small screen villains ever.

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RE: Oz - 5/10/2007 3:38:21 PM   
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Ok so I just finished watching Season 1 recently and I love it, what a great show! I cant decide who's my favourite as I love them all (even though in some way or another there all bastards) best moment was probably when Beecher shat on JK Simmons face, brilliant! Must get Season 2.

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RE: OZ - 6/10/2007 12:34:32 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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What is distrubring about Oz is how Chris Keller ends up being a lead detective investigating sex crimes in Law and Order:SVU. I cant help think that the twist in that series is going to be the fact he is causing them all


Do you know what's really odd about that?

In Oz is part of a prison in Baltimore right? Well the governor was in a a few times over the course of the series. Well, as you may know Homicide: Life On The Streets was set in Baltimore. The same guy who played the governor in Oz was the assistant DA in Homicide. Which is where Det. Munch comes in. Munch is in L&O: SVU too right? So in my weird view they're all part of the same universe so Keller is actually playing a cop while existing as an inmate in Oz.

[/Ramdomness]


a lot of OZ actors have guested or have had lead roles in law and order franchise-keller became stabler in SVU and dean winters was lead in 1st season of that show.
and of course j k simmons is mighty shrink emil skoda in all the L&O shows.

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RE: OZ - 21/5/2008 7:25:41 PM   
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Rented the first season from my local library and watched the first 3 eps today. Bloody good show. Can't wait to finish it off tomorrow

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