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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 12/9/2008 12:27:07 PM   
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Yeah I've got The Mission on DVD - still holds up quite brilliantly -
really dramatic stuff as only Spielberg can do....

RE: Blazing Angels: I'm more of a P-51 Mustang man myself...that plane
kicks serious ass...
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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 12/9/2008 12:53:08 PM   
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Nah!

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Playing Blazing Angels on the Wii is rather gnarly, as the choice to fly with the cockpit view gives you a rather detailed set-up (the Mk.I Spit even has the old-style gunsight!), but rather harder to see where the bandits are!

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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 13/9/2008 6:44:48 PM   
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Watched the classic that is 633 Squadron this afternoon.  I know some of the effects are dated now (the model work is rather ropey!), and I know the "Messerschmitts" aren't really Messerschmitts (well, they are, but they're Bf108s, not '109s!) but this film is an old childhood fave - so I don't care!

And the music is brilliant, too.  I'm actually surprised at myself for not having the theme tune as a ringtone!  (Although apparently Johnny Briggs, he who played Mike Baldwin in Corrie for years, and who played the pilot Jones in the movie, does!)



Been a long time since there was a flyable Mosquito - but hopefully not for much longer!

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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 14/9/2008 11:15:34 AM   
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Have never seen that one but I recently watched the DVD of
Howard Hughes' Hells Angels (yes the one from the Aviator)
and its not bad! - good transfer for a movie of its age and
some fairly decent dogfights.

Also I reckon another scene which was bloody brilliant was the
D-Day invasion scene from the air in Band of Brothers - god that
was something else!!

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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 14/9/2008 11:22:11 AM   
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Have never seen that one but I recently watched the DVD of
Howard Hughes' Hells Angels (yes the one from the Aviator)
and its not bad! - good transfer for a movie of its age and
some fairly decent dogfights.


Yeah, it's a pretty decent flick when the aerial stuff kicks in - and I love the fact that they used REAL Fokkers, S.E.5as and so on, compared to the earlier film "Wings" where they basically used whatever biplanes they had lying around (still a kick-ass film, though). 

I feel a need to watch something aviationy later on....



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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 14/9/2008 11:24:22 AM   
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For years, I've wanted to make a kick-ass war film using REAL hardware - Spitfires, Me109s, the lot. 

I feel a remake of something like "Aces High" would be good.  Mmmm, Spitfire porn!

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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 3/3/2009 12:32:14 PM   
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Having a browse of the IMDB, I notice that the much-mooted film The Few (y'know, the one where Tom Cruise was meant to play an RAF fighter pilot) is now missing from the listings...

Dropped? 

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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 4/3/2009 5:49:43 PM   
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I've been reading Malta Spitfire Aces lately, recounting the experience of the handful of fighter pilots who bravely fended off the Luftwaffe during 1941-42.  It's put me in the mood for watching The Malta Story, starring Alec Guinness, sometime this week...

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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 6/3/2009 3:21:33 PM   
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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 14/3/2009 4:48:45 PM   
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Just bought Amazing Stories (for £3!!!). I have fond memories of the WWII episode, 'The Mission', set on a Flying Fortress and starring Kevin Costner.  Anyone else remember it?

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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 14/3/2009 5:49:29 PM   
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I remember it well!

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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 16/3/2009 11:33:09 AM   
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Oh yes, my young Padawan. Peter Jackson will be producing but WETA is doing all the effects work and Rivers is directing in his feature film debut.







Got the original in Asda for £3 yesterday! That'll be watched at some point this week.


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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 16/3/2009 12:44:41 PM   
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I love The Dam Busters. It's the perfect war film. It focuses on a single campaign, so doesn't overreach itself; it's got one of the all-time great themes; it's triumphant, yet ends on a note of pathos; and served as the template for the Death Star trench run.

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I have fond memories of the WWII episode, 'The Mission', set on a Flying Fortress and starring Kevin Costner.  Anyone else remember it?


I think so - isn't that the one where the undercarriage won't work and then one of the gunners (I guess the one in the belly, who'd be crushed if it landed on its fuselage) 'draws' a cartoon landing gear on it, which magically appears?


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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 16/3/2009 12:45:44 PM   
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Ti, I thoroughly recommend the book Filming The Dam Busters...



Not cheap, though!

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RE: Favourite Fighter Pilot Film - 16/3/2009 12:46:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wedge

I have fond memories of the WWII episode, 'The Mission', set on a Flying Fortress and starring Kevin Costner.  Anyone else remember it?


I think so - isn't that the one where the undercarriage won't work and then one of the gunners (I guess the one in the belly, who'd be crushed if it landed on its fuselage) 'draws' a cartoon landing gear on it, which magically appears?



Yeah, that's the one.  Not seen it in years!

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RE: The Dam Busters - 18/3/2009 10:36:37 AM   
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So I watched the Dam Busters last night AND I'm currently read a book called The Dambusters Raid by John Sweetman and it was very interesting to see the various 'inaccuracies' portrayed in the film compared to the realities of the operation. I'm only two chapters in, but apparantly Gibson didn't ask for his own crew to be transferred, the whole spotlight idea was thought up by someone else and the bombadiers didn't use those sight-things but rather made marks on the cockpit glass.

But these are trivial matters, it's a film and you'd expect things to be changed to make the story flow better and it is a great film. However, the whole 'Nigger' aspect just didn't sit well with me,  I know it was the name of his dog etc etc and I wouldn't like to have it changed in the remake but at the same time, watching all these young RAF pilots and ground crew shouting "Oh hello Nigger!", was a bit cringeworthy.

Also, I noticed a young Robert Shaw and Patrick McGoohan amongst the young faces. A really good film and one where the action sequences still stand up rather well today.
 
I was browsing through my film collection later in the evening and I really want to get some old classic war films, I have a bunch already but at some point I want to pick up;
 
Ice Cold In Alex (love this film)
Battle of the Buldge (ditto)
Kelly's Heroes (ditto)
Patton (have yet to see this)
Bridge at Remagen (yet to see)
Battle of Britain (love this)
The Colditz Story
 


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RE: The Dam Busters - 18/3/2009 10:56:41 AM   
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I recommend you get the two-disc Battle of Britain - the extras are well worth the price! 

Also, I think you can get the books by Robert Rudhall on the making of the film - they were published some years ago but I think they were reprinted in paperback format a little while back.  Originals can fetch a high price (and I have mine signed! )

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RE: The Dam Busters - 26/3/2009 11:25:22 PM   
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Some footage posted on an Historic Aviation forum - rushes from the movie Reach for the Sky, showing the model aircraft combat sequences.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSNnh06bPNc

Stunning stuff - and not a wire in sight!

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RE: The Dam Busters - 27/3/2009 9:19:11 AM   
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Hang on. So Reach For The Sky ISN'T the long anticipated S Club 7 biopic?!

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RE: The Dam Busters - 27/3/2009 12:52:12 PM   
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Sadly for you, Ti, no!

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RE: The Dam Busters - 27/3/2009 1:01:22 PM   
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I think really, the only Fighter Pilot Film on the horizon is George Lucas's Red Tails for which casting has begun.




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RE: Straighten Up... And Fly Right - 7/4/2009 11:34:33 AM   
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Well I am a sucker for a good old fashioned WWII film but for you Wedge, I'm going to recommend THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN.

Tells the story of the black combat pilots during WWII that during their bomber escort flights NEVER lost ONE bomber to enemy action. Great little film made by HBO that combines actual WWII footage into the film.

Great cast and you get it cheap on R1 DVD. Get it now before George Lucas CGI's the hell out of them in his future project RED TAILS.



A fascinating true and moving story.




With the cast for Red Tails announced, I'm in a 332nd Squadron kind of mood, I might watch this tonight.
 
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RE: Straighten Up... And Fly Right - 7/4/2009 12:53:25 PM   
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RE: Tuskegee Airmen - 9/4/2009 12:21:04 PM   
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RE: Tuskegee Airmen - 9/4/2009 12:38:16 PM   
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Thought you'd like to see a couple of photos of modern-day Mustang restorations in Tuskegee colours:


This one sadly crashed a few years ago due to engine failure, the pilot sadly succumbing to his injuries later, but it is under rebuild to fly once again.


This one is owned by Kermit Weeks, and is based in Florida. 

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RE: Tuskegee Airmen - 9/4/2009 12:41:54 PM   
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He's called Kermit? Awesome. So are you a flyer then DazDaMan or just an aviation buff?

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RE: Tuskegee Airmen - 9/4/2009 12:57:49 PM   
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A little of both! 

I did think about taking microlighting lessons some years ago - that is all kinds of awesome.  I also used to fly R/C planes, and still have a Spitfire that's waiting for some decent weather to go commit aviation.

I also have/had dreams of building my own Spitfire one day, though in miniature form (60% scale, with a 100hp engine up front.  Fully aerobatic, too).  http://www.abpic.co.uk/search.php?q=G-BBJI&u=reg

I also nearly owned this - http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1162942/  
Long story short, the plane was in a barn/cellar somewhere in France, where the owner/builder had stored it following a lapse in its certificates.  He was going to give it to me so that I could recover it to the UK and rebuild it to fly.  Had a team together to recover it and everything, but the owner died and there was no other way for us to get hold of it!

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RE: Tuskegee Airmen - 11/4/2009 10:29:20 PM   
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Thanks to a member of an online war film discussion group, I managed to watch this film earlier:


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Baron Manfred von Richthofen (Matthias Schweighöfer) is the most feared and celebrated pilot of the Imperial German Air Service in World War I. His fellow pilots and himself regard their aerial combats as a glorious sporting contest, ignoring the horrors of the trenches below. After being wounded in action, von Richthofen falls in love with Nurse Käte (Lena Headey) and realizes he is only being manipulated for propaganda by the Generals.
Torn between his disgust for the war and his love for aviation, the Baron is offered a position away from the battlefront. To Käte's shock, he refuses to leave the firing line, stating that the pilots dying at the front don't have a choice, but he does. Ultimately, he is killed in action by Arthur Roy Brown (Joseph Fiennes), shortly after he and Käte had planned their life together.


Having heard about this one back in 2007, I was rather keen on seeing how this interpretation of the Red Baron legend would look in its final form.  Over time, there were sneak-peaks thanks to aviation enthusiasts involved in the filming in Germany, and sure enough some of the dogfight footage was eventually posted on YouTube.

Plot-wise, much of von Richthofen's life story is fictitious, with some basis in reality (various other historical figures are present here).  This is the film's biggest let-down, as it presents MvR almost as a romantic hero, a gallant fighter pilot who hates warfare but does what he does because of his love of flying.  Some of the dialogue is also rather ropey at times.

The film's strongest points are the dogfights and general aviation content.  The film-makers went to great lengths to recreate the aircraft of the period, including some which I've never seen in film before (the Albatross and R.E.8 spring to mind).  Again, though, the dogfights are sometimes reminiscent of Star Wars, with snap-rolling biplanes again, but a lot of the time it looks bloody realistic.  There are times, during the combat sequences, when I felt I was watching a more lavish version of The Blue Max.

Not bad, but not brilliant by any means. 

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RE: Tuskegee Airmen - 27/4/2009 11:52:35 AM   
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Dare I ask whether it shows The Red Baron being killed by a British pilot or by an Australian anti aircraft gun.... the debate still rages!

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RE: Tuskegee Airmen - 27/4/2009 11:56:57 AM   
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