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The Tudors - Sex, Violence, Swords And History - 14/2/2007 6:31:31 PM   
Timon


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Beginning April 1st Showtime will air the ten-part series "The Tudors" which looks at the early years of the reign of Henry the Eighth.

Jonathan Rhys Meyers stars as the young, fit and impetuous monarch who later went on to become the larger, bearded, multiply-married figure we've come to know.

Events cover the ten years between his being coronated and his first divorce. It's similar to 1998's superb "Elizabeth" in concept, no surprise though considering its from the same writer.

Sam Neill, Jeremy Northam, Henry Czerny, Henry Cavill, Callum Blue, Natalie Dormer, James Frain and Gabrielle Anwar are amongst the stellar line up.









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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 14/2/2007 6:53:00 PM   
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Fan - bloody - tastic! Good casting list. Sounds like a series not to be missed. Finally we have a series that covers the early years of Henry VIII.

Any idea what channel? I'm hoping it's terestrial!!!

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 14/2/2007 7:26:24 PM   
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[History student] Wasn't it 18 years? [/History student]

Looks good though.

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 14/2/2007 8:53:14 PM   
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Cool.  Looks more like something me mum might watch though.  Brilliant cast!

Especially this lady, phwoar!!!



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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes 'Rock Star' - 15/2/2007 1:22:33 PM   
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I've just watched a 'Behind The Scenes' trailer on Youtube and it looks like Showtime is retaining the whole sex and violence they can used in Sleeper Cell as well as the 'laddish element' found in the excellent Showtime. They are after all dubbing this Henry as 'the Rock Star of this time'.



And it looks great.

Click HERE for Behind The Scenes Trailer

It's also good to see Henry Cavil in more things. I recently dubbed him The Unluckiest Actor In The World.

You may have seen him in The Count Of Monte Cristo as Jim Cavizel's son but this man is also;

The man that was ALMOST Superman (down to the final 3), as well as the man that was ALMOST Batman (final 6) and well as the man that was SO CLOSE to being Bond (final 2 but deemed too young).

Here though he looks quite the part and I reckon he'll most likely succeed Daniel Craig as Bond. Many a time have they come back to an actor deemed too young at first (Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan)

Series starts April 1st

TRAILER 1 (Good use of Kingdom Of Heaven and Plunkett and Macleane's music)

TRAILER 2: Passion Of A King

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 15/2/2007 1:46:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mozza

[History student] Wasn't it 18 years? [/History student]

Looks good though.



From the promos it looks like it shows the birth of Edward so it must carry on WAY past his first divorce.

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 15/2/2007 8:42:08 PM   
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I'd be sold on this were it not for the presence of Rhys-Meyers.The guy makes me physically ill.With any luck both he and Cillian Murphy will suffer a terminal case of Paddywhackery and that'll be that.

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 15/2/2007 9:57:48 PM   
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It's interesting that it's coming out so close to THE OTHER BOLEYN GIRL with Eric Bana as a young Henry VIII and Natalie Portman as Anne and Scarlett Johanson as her sister.
 
Case of hedging bets like the Helen Mirren Elizabeth I miniseries last year which came out alongside Ann Marie Duff's miniseries 'The Virgin Queen'? That coupled with Cate Blanchett's return to the role of Elizabeth this year in 'The Golden Age'.

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 18/2/2007 5:55:53 PM   
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I've seen the trailers for this and although it looks cheap, i hope they show it over here.  CAn't wait to c it.

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 18/2/2007 7:23:32 PM   
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It looks cheap?!

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 19/2/2007 12:35:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

It looks cheap?!


Pay no attention to the person dribbling in the corner, it looks great.

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 19/2/2007 1:21:40 PM   
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The cast list does look like a lot of very minor Brits in the US from cancelled TV shows. Anyone who saw the atrocious sequel to the originally fun Librarian will be reminded of how terrible an actress Anwar is.

Hopefully Neil will have fun, although Northam isn't exactly my idea of St Thomas More.

Meyers as bold, ebullient physical Henry though? He may give the occasional decent performance, but physically seems pretty poor casting. Henry's more effete older brother, maybe.

At least the writer has decent form. I hope the cast live up to it. If not, I'm back to my Elizabeth R DVD.

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 19/2/2007 2:24:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Peppermint

quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

It looks cheap?!


Pay no attention to the person dribbling in the corner, it looks great.


No i am not a nut case!!!!  I still say that compared to other drama's it looks like they haven't spent much money on it - that is all.  That does not mean it won't be good. 

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 5/3/2007 11:23:58 PM   
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April 1st is fast approaching and from what I've heard it'll be as explicit as ROME. Thank God for Showtime.

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 26/3/2007 1:53:14 PM   
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Starts in less than a week!

Time to drum up more interest and enthuiasm.

Who's with me?

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 27/3/2007 4:08:13 PM   
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I'll be watching it, need something to fill that Rome sized void in my television viewing. Any ideas what British channel it will be showing on?

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 27/3/2007 4:43:24 PM   
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Defo be there, only finished watching the last ep of Rome and already having withdrawal symptoms!

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RE: The Tudors - Henry VIII Goes Slim - 27/3/2007 9:17:22 PM   
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There's a huge void now Rome's over but I just stand the idea of watching Rhys Myers.  A real charmless man.  I think I'll give this Canadian/Irish funded series a miss.

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RE: The Tudors - Sex, Violence, Swords And History - 28/3/2007 2:45:57 AM   
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I really wanna see this, too bad I don't have Showtime.  Guess I'll have to see it by some other means.

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RE: The Tudors - Sex, Violence, Swords And History - 28/3/2007 9:04:58 PM   
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I just saw the first three episodes up on the torrents 

Jonathan Rhys-Meyers? Oh dear... unless I hear very good things, I think I'll have to give it a miss.

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RE: The Tudors - Sex, Violence, Swords And History - 28/3/2007 9:36:57 PM   
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I'm up for anything that features '16th century cleavage'. Heaving bosoms indeed.

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RE: The Tudors - Sex, Violence, Swords And History - 29/3/2007 9:17:57 AM   
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The first episode is very good - though you have to feel sorry for Sean Pertwee in the opening scene. On one hand, it's clear that Showtime looked at Rome and had a meeting to decide which was the next most debauched era in history, but they've pulled it off admirably, kicking off the pilot with violence quickly followed by sex.

The CGI reconstructions of famous landmarks - like a beautiful overhead sweep of Hampton Court Palace - shows that they've done their homework, and while I'm not a historian and able to vouch for the historical accuracy, it certainly convinces as a period piece.

Rhys Meyers makes a good, vain but responsible monarch, and there's political intrigue aplenty supplied by Sam Neill as Cardinal Wolsey, desperately trying to avert a needless war with France but clearly with his own aims in mind. On the other side of Henry's advisors is Jeremy Northam as Sir Thomas More, a humanist (although was that a real concept back then? It seems a more modern philosophy, at least in the naming of it), someone who tries to rein in his headstrong king.

The series run (I don't know how many seasons that would be) intends to cover all 6 of Henry's wives, and the first episode involves his almost sexless marriage to Catherine, a woman who has disappointed him by delivering a daughter - Mary - rather than a son and heir.

The only false note - and for me it was a biggie - was right at the end with a horribly clumsy line of dialogue: "At last my daughters, you may get a chance to meet the King. [pours two glasses of wine] For you Mary... and for you, ANNE BOLEYN!" Seriously, it's just a dreadful bit of needless foreshadowing.

Other than that. well worth a watch.

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RE: The Tudors - Sex, Violence, Swords And History - 2/4/2007 1:43:53 PM   
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Watched the first episode and really enjoyed it.

Rhys is a King who wants to be remembered but at the same time has a sense of chivalry and responsibilty. He knows More is a wise man and knows war is expensive and devastating but combat is where legends are made. Also liked it how he gets consent from the maidens he beds.

How we get to see 'The Field Of The Cloth of Gold' as that would be visually stunning to see. The sweeping shots of Hampton Court et al look great so far and the crew have clearly used Rome as an influence with wanton swearing, sex and violence.

The reviews so far are lukewarm but I really enjoyed it. The cast are all top notch and the writing is decent apart from the end line that Vertigo noted. Completely stupid. So many other ways they could have shown these were The Bolyen Sisters. Strange also how the prettier of the two isn't Anne.



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RE: The Tudors - Sex, Violence, Swords And History - 2/4/2007 6:30:30 PM   
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Just starting the second episode and not sure about the titles. It's like I'm watching The Bold And The Beautiful!

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RE: The Tudors - Sex, Violence, Swords And History - 4/4/2007 1:20:29 PM   
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Just watched the second and third episodes and I'm really getting into it.

The filmmakers seem to be sticking pretty close to the historical fact which I like. The Field Of The Cloth of Gold was beautifully done as was Francis and Henry's wrestle which Francis did actually win.

Also liking Henry's 'entourage' and it's good to see Henry Cavil's Charles Brandon coming front and centre as he's giving titles and the responsiblity of escorting Margaret on her marriage. It's a shame Cavil lost out on the roles of Batman (final 6), Superman (final 3) and Bond (final 2!) as he's a talented actor.

Love how Catherine of Aragon is portrayed as you really feel for her as she is shunned by Henry for not providing a son as well as her lonliness at court as Henry spends time with every other woman but her.

Neil and Northam as Wosley and More are also excellent in their roles and it's great watching these two character interact with Henry knowing what will happen to them in the future.

Anne Boleyn is growing on me. She is manipulative and beautiful and can't wait to see how her seduction of Henry plays out apart from her haunting his lust filled dreams.

Also, after having it as a notable green screen effect - could we see the Sinking of the Mary Rose on screen? That would be a sight.

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RE: The Tudors - Sex, Violence, Swords And History - 6/4/2007 12:17:59 AM   
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Have watched the first three episodes and absolutly loving it. Know very little about this period of history so its a welcome change to knowing the outcome of the major plots in rome. This could almost have been made by the same people as Rome, with the sex, violence and intrigue surrounding the leaders of power. Fasinating to see how much power royalty had back then, and how hard it was to keep yourself out of prison! Brilliant acting on the part of Meyers aswell, a King thirsty for power and glory but also to do good by his people, and some of the women are beautiful but you wonder how clean and polished they would have been back in the day.......great stuff.

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RE: The Tudors - Sex, Violence, Swords And History - 15/4/2007 8:47:12 PM   
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Really can't wait till the 4th episode. So far, this is the new ROME. I feel the critics are being a bit harsh on the 'melodramatic' aspects.

Was just browsing on imdb and some people are really fussing over the historical aspects of the show. I've found that generally it's quite accurate although the timeline is slightly moved around for story purposes much like Elizabeth and Rome.

Also some of the comments are really odd. Some people are asking who Wolsey is and why it's called The Tudors?! Americans!

PS - Does anyone have an mp3 of the opening theme.

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RE: The Tudors - Sex, Violence, Swords And History - 16/4/2007 12:16:25 AM   
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I've seen the first 2 episodes and I quite enjoyed them. It's not as impressive as Rome but decent nonetheless. Strong writing too, for the most part. And Meyers is actually ok in the role. 

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RE: The Tudors - Sex, Violence, Swords And History - 16/4/2007 5:05:33 PM   
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Will he go 'method' though and pork up?

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RE: The Tudors - Sex, Violence, Swords And History - 16/4/2007 7:35:40 PM   
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Er, what channel is this on.  I realise you've probably aready said some where...

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