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RE: Battlestar Galactica - US Speed - 27/2/2012 3:01:48 PM   
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Been working my way through this on blu ray. Just finished season 3, so got Razor next, then the final season. It's a great show, but i do find it a little slow at times. It's also quite bleak. Very interested to see how things turn out though.

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RE: Battlestar Galactica - US Speed - 18/3/2012 12:09:57 AM   
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S2 Finale


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RE: Battlestar Galactica - US Speed - 18/3/2012 12:13:46 AM   
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S2 Finale




Yeah, I had to wait a YEAR for season 3.



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RE: Battlestar Galactica - US Speed - 18/3/2012 12:00:08 PM   
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That would have been awful.

I'm glad I only had to change disc, but in another way the wait would've built excitment to ridiculous levels.

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RE: Battlestar Galactica - US Speed - 19/3/2012 9:41:23 PM   
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The finale is currently on Sky Atlantic - I never fail to get chills when the truth of the opera house is revealled.

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Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome - 21/3/2012 11:03:14 AM   
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Battlestar Galactica returns with Blood and Chrome. http://bit.ly/GHeV5A

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome - 21/3/2012 11:05:25 AM   
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Not sure about this.

BSG was amazing. I didn't get past 3 or 4 episodes of Caprica. I cant help but feel they are milking this to death.


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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome - 21/3/2012 11:24:58 AM   
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Yeah, Caprica was at least a challenge in terms of what it wanted to do. This seems like the reaction of studio who didn't want a difficult show but rather one that goes bang bang bang.

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome - 21/3/2012 12:07:14 PM   
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Still need to watch the second half of Caprica.

It does seem a shame that they're just going for an 'action' series, but hey, it could be good, right?

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome - 21/3/2012 7:33:42 PM   
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I am sure all those folks who hated the finale cause it dared to be radical and different and actully challange and ask questions will love this series!

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome - 21/3/2012 9:58:32 PM   
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Saw that Blood and Chrome trailer. Do not like.

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome - 21/3/2012 11:46:58 PM   
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Looks alright I suppose, would rather a second season of Caprica.

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome - 22/3/2012 12:42:21 AM   
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I am sure all those folks who hated the finale cause it dared to be radical and different and actully challange and ask questions will love this series!


If by radical you mean completely undermining 4 seasons worth of characterization and plot!

The last 15 mins of that finale was one of the biggest and most irrational fuckups in the history of television. Just sayin'.

This show looks ok. Didn't watch Caprica because my feelings were too hurt after BSG (); I'll wait for the reviews and word of mouth on this one before giving it a go. Looks purdy though!

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome - 22/3/2012 1:17:27 AM   
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Syfy passes on BLOOD & CHROME...
http://www.deadline.com/2012/03/battlestar-galactica-blood-and-chrome-cancelled-syfy/

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome - 22/3/2012 1:27:27 AM   
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Well that was quick.

Might work better as a one-off movie anyway. Web-series sounds a bit pointless. Maybe a series of TV films?

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome - 22/3/2012 12:20:06 PM   
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I am sure all those folks who hated the finale cause it dared to be radical and different and actully challange and ask questions will love this series!


If by radical you mean completely undermining 4 seasons worth of characterization and plot!

The last 15 mins of that finale was one of the biggest and most irrational fuckups in the history of television. Just sayin'.



Say what?

I can understand if you didn't like the finale (the coda still doesn't sit right with me but everything else does) but I don't think they undermined all the previous work they'd done.

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Final Season - 24/6/2012 12:48:06 PM   
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QUESTION

I am on the final season now. I want to know when I can watch THE PLAN?



SPOILERS - I know who the final five are. Basically I am at the point where they have revealed themselves to everyone. They have found earth. Discovered it was most possibly a cylon colony but it's now uninhabitable. They've left and Gaytor tried a coup on Battlestar which has just failed.




I've been flying through the show the last couple of months. Only get the chance to watch it on the weekend but it ends up being long sessions of viewing. Which has it's pro's and con's. One of the con's being you miss that chance to reflect or absorb what you've seen ... yet on the other hand sometimes it's brilliant as you keep the flow of the story going when the odd episode feels like it's stopped at the wrong moment.

Off the top of my head I'm rating the seasons in this order of enjoyment:

SPOILERS

S1 - The mini series set the premise and just gripped me. It was an intense season where they struggled to adapt to the war or escape from the Cylons.
S4 - The reveal of the final five has refreshed the undercover cylon plot. As we look at characters we've connected with for four seasons deal with this new revelation. The fact that they are still individual and still more human than the other's make for some interesting situations.
S3 - Early episodes of were interesting as they dealt with living under cylon rule and the aftermath of this bubbled through the season well.
S2 - Honestly I remember being a bit tired of the whole Gaius + Six plot and all the talk of religion started to put me off.

Those are truly off the top of my head and as I've been watching back to back I wouldn't be surprised if I'm blending the end of one season and the start of another together! As mentioned I've not had time to truly reflect and it's interesting to see the reviews on Empire with everyone's feedback as they were watching.



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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Final Season - 24/6/2012 1:33:24 PM   
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QUESTION

I am on the final season now. I want to know when I can watch THE PLAN?



Best to watch it after the final episode.

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Final Season - 24/6/2012 1:37:02 PM   
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Yeah watch it once you've finished the rest. It's not really all that essential but it does make for an interesting footnote to the series.


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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Final Season - 24/6/2012 3:29:33 PM   
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Yeah watch it once you've finished the rest. It's not really all that essential but it does make for an interesting footnote to the series.




Cheers people!

I just didn't want it all to end so I was going to watch "The Plan" first to drag out the ending a bit. As you've noted ... it sounds like a bad idea.


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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Final Season - 24/6/2012 9:00:01 PM   
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I would actually say watch the Plan before the finale. It works perfectly there.

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Final Season - 24/6/2012 9:55:35 PM   
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Still haven't watched The Plan.

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Final Season - 2/7/2012 12:51:53 AM   
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Finished!


SPOILERS END OF THE SHOW


MIXED FEELINGS

Annoyed at

- No explanation of what Kara is / was and how she returned.
- Was the final Cylon ship truly destroyed by the nukes from one Raptor?
- Why did the Cylon leader kill himself?
- Why resurrection was offered up so freely in the first place? The main thing the Cylon seemed to have wanted was to become a Robot again. Resurrection doesn't fix this. Though I guess it removes the issue of mortality and everything that stems from it.
- Why the Chief got away with killing the other final/original Cylon
?

Enjoyed

- The lead up to the final stand off in the bridge.
- The idea of tying the new Earth to ours
.





To add I thought some time travel would be involved with all the black holes and vortex's (quite sure Sam mentions it too in his ramblings before the op). I thought Kara goes through the vortex and from that moment there was one that finds Earth and one that dies. Then to skip to the end Kara finds Earth again but this time it's Earth ... the same one they found before but waaaaaaay in the past.

Oh and this http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Number_Seven my mind started to race about Kara's father / step father being the seventh.


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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Final Season - 2/7/2012 12:34:58 PM   
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Finished!


SPOILERS END OF THE SHOW


MIXED FEELINGS

Annoyed at

- No explanation of what Kara is / was and how she returned.
- Was the final Cylon ship truly destroyed by the nukes from one Raptor?
- Why did the Cylon leader kill himself?
- Why resurrection was offered up so freely in the first place? The main thing the Cylon seemed to have wanted was to become a Robot again. Resurrection doesn't fix this. Though I guess it removes the issue of mortality and everything that stems from it.
- Why the Chief got away with killing the other final/original Cylon
?

Enjoyed

- The lead up to the final stand off in the bridge.
- The idea of tying the new Earth to ours
.





To add I thought some time travel would be involved with all the black holes and vortex's (quite sure Sam mentions it too in his ramblings before the op). I thought Kara goes through the vortex and from that moment there was one that finds Earth and one that dies. Then to skip to the end Kara finds Earth again but this time it's Earth ... the same one they found before but waaaaaaay in the past.

Oh and this http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Number_Seven my mind started to race about Kara's father / step father being the seventh.



To answer your points - (not sure why I am putting SPOILER but there you go)

No explanation of what Kara is / was and how she returned.

Kara was one of the HeadCharacters at the end - what the colonists called an "angel" but could be the visual representation of any advanced being.

Was the final Cylon ship truly destroyed by the nukes from one Raptor?

The ship was sitting right on the edge of a black hole. The nukes knocked it out of orbit and towards the hole. The sheer pressure was crushing the ship and so while the nukes did some damage, it was really this which took it out.

Why did the Cylon leader kill himself?

Cavill had lost - he could no longer ressurect and with the other Cylons being shot to death, he killed himself - a final expression of choice which made his race more than just machines. It was actually the actors idea, and played into the character wanting to be more human than human.

Why resurrection was offered up so freely in the first place? The main thing the Cylon seemed to have wanted was to become a Robot again. Resurrection doesn't fix this. Though I guess it removes the issue of mortality and everything that stems from it.

Resurrection gave them immortality - when it was removed the Cylons finally understood what death was. Cavil wanted it back in order to continue his journey of escaping the elderly man he was designed to be.

Why the Chief got away with killing the other final/original Cylon

As Tigh says, no one would blame him for killing Tory. Rememeber he experienced the death of his wife in those moments. It was a pure, human reaction. After they get to Earth, what reason would they have to punish him?

Oh and this http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Number_Seven my mind started to race about Kara's father / step father being the seventh.

Daniel was invented in order to explain away a numbering problem with the Cylons


Number One (John Cavil)
Number Two (Leoben Conoy)
Number Three (D'Anna Biers)
Number Four (Simon O'Neill)
Number Five (Aaron Doral)
Number Six (Six)

Number Eight (Boomer)

Either one of the Final Five was in the position of Seven, which doesn't make sense or there was a Cylon between Six and Eight. So they invented Daniel to plug that gap so it is now;

Number One (John Cavil)
Number Two (Leoben Conoy)
Number Three (D'Anna Biers)
Number Four (Simon O'Neill)
Number Five (Aaron Doral)
Number Six (Caprica-Six / Shelly Godfrey / Gina Inviere / Natalie Faust / Lida / Sonja)
Number Seven (Daniel)
Number Eight (Sharon "Boomer" Valerii / Sharon "Athena" Agathon)
The Final Five (Samuel Anders, Galen Tyrol, Tory Foster, Saul Tigh, Ellen Tigh)


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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Final Season - 2/7/2012 7:41:43 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: the anomaly

Finished!


SPOILERS END OF THE SHOW


MIXED FEELINGS

Annoyed at

- No explanation of what Kara is / was and how she returned.
- Was the final Cylon ship truly destroyed by the nukes from one Raptor?
- Why did the Cylon leader kill himself?
- Why resurrection was offered up so freely in the first place? The main thing the Cylon seemed to have wanted was to become a Robot again. Resurrection doesn't fix this. Though I guess it removes the issue of mortality and everything that stems from it.
- Why the Chief got away with killing the other final/original Cylon
?

Enjoyed

- The lead up to the final stand off in the bridge.
- The idea of tying the new Earth to ours
.





To add I thought some time travel would be involved with all the black holes and vortex's (quite sure Sam mentions it too in his ramblings before the op). I thought Kara goes through the vortex and from that moment there was one that finds Earth and one that dies. Then to skip to the end Kara finds Earth again but this time it's Earth ... the same one they found before but waaaaaaay in the past.

Oh and this http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Number_Seven my mind started to race about Kara's father / step father being the seventh.



To answer your points - (not sure why I am putting SPOILER but there you go)

No explanation of what Kara is / was and how she returned.

Kara was one of the HeadCharacters at the end - what the colonists called an "angel" but could be the visual representation of any advanced being.

Yet there's no closure on this. Was she always this higher being? Or was it only once the real Kara died did she awaken? Completely ambiguous. Which can be fine but in this instance felt like a cop out.

Was the final Cylon ship truly destroyed by the nukes from one Raptor?

The ship was sitting right on the edge of a black hole. The nukes knocked it out of orbit and towards the hole. The sheer pressure was crushing the ship and so while the nukes did some damage, it was really this which took it out.

Fair enough I'd forgotten the were within an asteroid field, next to a black hole.


Why did the Cylon leader kill himself?

Cavill had lost - he could no longer ressurect and with the other Cylons being shot to death, he killed himself - a final expression of choice which made his race more than just machines. It was actually the actors idea, and played into the character wanting to be more human than human.

It all kicked off so quickly. Why didn't they just stop the chief strangling Tory? Fair enough there was clearly a lack of trust ... bit of a stand off and you could say Cavil didn't want to live without at least having the ability to resurrect. I accept that. But before that point it looked like they were winning! They had battered Galactica a hell of a lot from the exterior and they'd managed to get to the bridge and they had the girl. The show made it seem as if everything was on their side and Galactica were the under dogs. Yet suddenly the tables turned too quickly for me to get with it.


Why resurrection was offered up so freely in the first place? The main thing the Cylon seemed to have wanted was to become a Robot again. Resurrection doesn't fix this. Though I guess it removes the issue of mortality and everything that stems from it.

Resurrection gave them immortality - when it was removed the Cylons finally understood what death was. Cavil wanted it back in order to continue his journey of escaping the elderly man he was designed to be.

Why the Chief got away with killing the other final/original Cylon

As Tigh says, no one would blame him for killing Tory. Rememeber he experienced the death of his wife in those moments. It was a pure, human reaction. After they get to Earth, what reason would they have to punish him?


Because he's a liability? Not the first time he's lost it. Add to the fact he had serious issues with his wife. Goes outright to say he resents her. Finally discovering the child isn't his he doesn't seem to care. Then starts to fall for Boomer. It's not as cut and dry as that but it's also not black and white to just say it's fine he strangled Tory to death when peace between the Cylons and Humans was resting on them simply completing that download. Hell if she had to die it could have waited?


Oh and this http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Number_Seven my mind started to race about Kara's father / step father being the seventh.

Daniel was invented in order to explain away a numbering problem with the Cylons


Number One (John Cavil)
Number Two (Leoben Conoy)
Number Three (D'Anna Biers)
Number Four (Simon O'Neill)
Number Five (Aaron Doral)
Number Six (Six)

Number Eight (Boomer)

Either one of the Final Five was in the position of Seven, which doesn't make sense or there was a Cylon between Six and Eight. So they invented Daniel to plug that gap so it is now;

Number One (John Cavil)
Number Two (Leoben Conoy)
Number Three (D'Anna Biers)
Number Four (Simon O'Neill)
Number Five (Aaron Doral)
Number Six (Caprica-Six / Shelly Godfrey / Gina Inviere / Natalie Faust / Lida / Sonja)
Number Seven (Daniel)
Number Eight (Sharon "Boomer" Valerii / Sharon "Athena" Agathon)
The Final Five (Samuel Anders, Galen Tyrol, Tory Foster, Saul Tigh, Ellen Tigh)

I did read the page I linked too Just noting that it would have been quite interesting.





I loved the journey but I feel the Cylon story could have been fleshed out more in the last season. So I'm looking forward to the Plan to discover ... well their agenda ... honestly start of the series they are a large and immortal fleet ... against two battle stars. The fact that by the end they are a complete ruin is mind boggling.

Then the whole Kara / Six Inner / Gaius Inner - not clear what these are? Angels? Truly? Or some program created to guide events? They refer to God at the end ... is that actually God ... or a man made God ...

Whilst I was glad to see certain characters finally being able to quit fighting and live the rest of their lives ... it felt quite rushed and as it sinks in my disappointment is growing.

Apologies for the rambling.

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Final Season - 2/7/2012 7:59:47 PM   
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QUESTION

I am on the final season now. I want to know when I can watch THE PLAN?



Best to watch it after the final episode.


I know its a bit late now but you're actually supposed to watch The Plan between Ep15 and 16 of S04, just saying.

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Final Season - 2/7/2012 8:11:50 PM   
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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Final Season - 2/7/2012 8:12:41 PM   
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Yeah never heard that before.

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Final Season - 2/7/2012 8:17:08 PM   
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I can understand why, but I'd rather watch it after the series was over rather than stop midway though the final few episodes, to hear about something which gets explained pretty well in the series proper anyway.

Besides, it wasn't that great.

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RE: Battlestar Galactica: Final Season - 2/7/2012 8:26:14 PM   
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Yeah never heard this one myself.

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