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ORIGINAL: Captain Trips

I actually meant that maybe Cottle was the Cylon...

Ah yes, sorry, completely misread that part. Good call too, it's certainly a possibility. I don't think any of the main character will turn out to be Cylons. The writers are making things up as they go and I think it would just be too constraining to write character ambiguously enough to maintain the possibility of them being a Cylon. Gaeta is really the only other possibility as we've seen so little of him away from CnC.

And I don't think I mentioned how great I thought James Callis and Tricia Helfer were in this episode. The casting personnel really struck gold with that pairing.

Still in two minds as to whether it would have been a good reveal to see a new Cylon on Caprica. It would have been fun, but not necessarily the best thing for the show.

This is spoilery from the podcast and actually made me happy because it contradicted something that I thought was true that I also considered to be a waste. I won't go any futher, but highlight if you want:

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ORIGINAL: Zatoichi

Does anyone know if any terrestrial channels will be picking this show up? I haven't seen a single episode before but I'd really like to see it from the start.

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ORIGINAL: Beckymonster

Captain Black - you are God.  That is all.

I thought Ivanova was God.

Zatoichi - I doubt any terrestrial channel will broadcast it as Sky co funded it and will want it to be exclusive, just like 24 (for now at least). However if you've got digital and don't fancy forking out, I expect it will be on Sky Three before too long. I'm currently enjoying The 4400 on there, another Sky exclusive so it does tend to trickle down if you're patient and/or skint.

What's the recommended boxset for season 1? I think I'd prefer something with all the extra features, even if it's a few quid more.

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As for the ashes scene - people were mentioning about the Chief.  First up, logistics would be key.  Chief would have the kind of pull to get a Raptor up and out to perform the ceremony.  Not only that but he's a kind, considerate guy who'd be grieving alongside Helo and Boomer.  Not to mention that he 'could' call on his background to say a few words of comfort (mother was an oracle, father was a priest) to aid 'Hera' on her way.

Were any words spoken or was it silent? Lovely scene.

I adore the Chief, this was a terrific episode of people coming together in a bad situation, which personally, I believe there's a lot more of than when things are going great and people are more out for themselves. I remember watching a Battle of Britain doc and how the pilots said, 'it was difficult to be unpleasant to people who might not be here the next day', I guess that's why I didn't like some of the preceding episodes so much, some of the characters were written as too unsympathetic.

And Chief should sooo hook up with Cally. Lucky b*stard.

And going back to Helo, has he been portrayed as being particularly religious before now? I guess if you're less inclined towards the Colonial polyethiastic (hope that's even close to the right word) then the Cylon alternative might be easier to sway towards.

Other things; D'Anna didn't actually see Six drop a slab on her - it could quite conceivably has just been falling rubble - so Six and Sharon still have their cover.

Only two and a half episoes to go now.

Shame no one said: 'By your command.' That would have rocked.

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ORIGINAL: galvatron

Now i'm even further convinced... Going back to the pilot episode Sharon selects the number in order to get Baltar on board Galactica one spy helping another!!! 

No need for the spoiler colour Galvatron, if it's one of your theories.

And regarding Baltar, if memory serves (and it's going a bit these days) the blast was a great distance away, only the glass that shattered from the shockwave would be a danger and Six shielded him. That's my take on it until proven otherwise anyway.

2.19. Lay Down Your Burdens Part I.

Were there more new bits in the precredits sequence? Lee/Dualla definitely.

I'm kinda back to thinking Dualla is a Cylon now. And Gaeta, basically more screen time makes me suspicious.

And the award for the longest pre credit sequence in history goes to.....10 minutes?!

I really feared that they'd killed off Cally in that sequence, I have to say it was tough to watch. Chief's such a great guy normally. His scenes with Dean Stockwell were gold. Loved the way Dean insinuated that he 'Could be a cylon' just as I was thinking it myself. Damn writers, screwing around with me.

I liked that they explained a bit more about the FTL drives - and the organic part of the Raider inside the Raptor? Liked the atmospheric re-entry. Couldn't help but think when Starbuck highlighted 'windshear' 'turbulence' etc she did kinda miss out 'intense heat brought on by atmospheric entry', but I suppose that could be a known quantity.

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Timon:
Told you Capt Black! Nah nah nah nah! (I will keep bringing this up for a while to come)

Tsk, I did predict it two episodes (and blamed Ron for my earlier comments) ago if you look at one of my earlier posts.

*Cpt Black goes off to sulk in the corner. Again* 

Helo, great again. Lee effective in a small role. Everyone really on their A-game. Callis was again superb. Racetrack looked hot. Sorry, thinking out loud there.

Not my quote, but worth it:

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'Sam, Ziggy says you have to betray humanity before you can leap out!'

More to come after I've listened to the podcast, probably.

Edit: They are so not gonna....well, here's what I think it's spoilered and I'm only going to use the first letter, to claim bragging rights if I'm correct.

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N.T.G.

If it's just that Baltar wins the election. Lame.

End (yes, I am aware of the irony of telling Galvatron he didn't need to but trust me, you'll be annoyed if I'm right and you want to be unspoiled ).

Frankly, Moore excites me more than any man should.

Now if you'll excuse me I've got a vigil to maintain by Cally's bedside..... *Sniffs*

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ORIGINAL: elab49

I so envy you people who are unspoiled as to how the series will end.

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ORIGINAL: elab49

b) I don't generally go for them for this show - but this particular one I came across without it being properly noted as a spoiler, so I didn't have a choice.

Aaahhhh, Cylon virus. I'd just typed all this out and it's timed out! 

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jstarbuck:
Ep 19 was superb. Highlight for me was the realisation that one of the Raptors had jumped in to the mountain. Nice. Although, how was the transponder still working? Did the matter of the transponder displace the mountain? In which case were the pilots till alive in the cockpit but surrounded by rock? Hmm?

Nice to see you around again, starbuck. I wondered the same thing, depending on your take on how they actually make FTL jumps. If it's a wormhole tunneling method (which fis more into how they've portrayed it on the show visually) they'd smack into the mountain, destroying the transponder. If it's more like rematerialisation (like Trek's transporters) then the Raptor's would (I guess ) sort of blend in with the rock, also stopping the transponder from working. A plot hole I guess, but I suppose it was important to explain the result of the jump.


Dean Stockwell's still great. Was he not Oscar nominated before Quantum Leap? I remember another poster said he saw Dean at a convention, smoking a cigar not 10 feet away from the no-smoking sign.


Regarding spoilers; for me it depends on the show, I did look at a few photos of BSG a while back because I wasn't happy with a few of the episodes and wanted to see what direction they were going in. I was suitably buoyed. I've guessed something big about the final from statements in the podcast, though I'll be pleasantly surprised if I've been deceived or if it's just my poor reading of the situation.

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ORIGINAL: Captain Black

Nice to see you around again, starbuck.

It's good to be back

'Hey, everybody shut the frack up - I'm posting!'

How much more blood, Gaius? How much more?

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So is that a good or a bad thing? I don't listen to the podcasts

I would have said 'depends if I'm right' had I replied before watching the last episode. I was wrong. Moore lies. He's a Cylon.

This proved an absolute pain to download anyone else find that? Still not got Stargate either.

Podcast is great this week BTW, very funny. More on that in the context of the ep review....

3,2,1, Go....

Well, that's another prediction down the drain....I genuinely thought they were going to Nuke.The.Galactica (as my spoiler capped text from a previous post would atest) because I knew the Pegasus would survive from what Ron said on the podcasts and when the nuke goes up Adama is not on the Galactica. However, in that situation they'd probably have had to rename the show Not!Battlestar Galactica. Spinoff series: Battlestar Pegasus!

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Timon:
Um...wow.

Pretty much my reaction, I guess it really opens up new avenues of storylines for them to tell, but it didn't feel quite.....organic to me. Anyone know what I mean? Like it was - 'hey we'll do this 'cause it'll be cool' and not necessarily (I'll happily be proved wrong) because it's best for the story.

You must all admire my powers of healing. I have snuggled Cally and now she is better.
And go Chief, you lucky git.

Really liked how the actions of Downloaded played in to this.

Tigh of all people rigging the election.

Regardless of the plot logic the character beats were spot on.

When Dean Stockwell is revealed as the Cylon and is then in the cell, you could see Mary McDonnell thinking 'airlock, airlock'. Or was that just me?
He was absolutely great, especially when he's all 'I'm not a Cylon...' sees himself 'oh, alright then, the game's up' and then has the conversation with himself.

Apparently Torri will be in future episodes. This is cool, she's actually a far more effective character than Billy.

Curse Gaeta and his retentiveness. That guy would have no friends in real life. Oh well, maybe they can do good things with him next season.

Really expected Galactica to get caught in the nukuler[sic] blast. Still, glad it didn't. They didn't really explain why Gina detonated the nuke though - can anyone enlighten me? Was I just not paying attention?

Loved the transition to one year later. Was Baltar's leather Presidential chair black where Roslin's was red? Just the lighting maybe.

Didn't like all the ageing processes they all went through, Starbuck's was the most effective. Dualla's was more than a year, Tigh actually looked considerably younger, and what was up with those Adamas? Awful 'tache and implied weight gain? Eh? Chief was decent and Cally had a certain glow about her.

Took me a while to pick up Maya and the Cylon baby. Loved Mary McDonnell as the teacher. Here's something cool, the cradle the baby is in is the one from Baltar's dream.

Loved EJO breaking the filter off the cigarette. That was a great scene between him and Tigh. I've always kinda liked Tigh (maybe Paul Hogan's acting would be closer to the truth) and he seemed to make the transition over the one year on period the best. Perhaps we'll see him come into his own as a possible resistance leader.

Loved Gaius's Presidential portrait on the wall behind him. Egomaniac much?

James Callis should get an Emmy based on this ep.

So, as something of a recap.

• Adama (please get rid of the 'tache I was having Miami Vice flashbacks and not in a good way), Helo on Galactica - as XO?.
  
• Apollo (plus paunchy stomach?), Dualla on Pegasus.
  
• Tigh (all of a sudden best mates with Starbuck), Ellen on New Caprica.
  
• Starbuck, Cally (pregnant) & Chief possibly forming some kind of resistance movement(?? ) on New Capria.
  
• Gaeta with Baltar in the Presidents office.
  
• Cottle is on the surface as well.
  
• Where's imprisoned Boomer? Or have I answered ny own question? And what's the point of rhetorical questions?
  

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