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Galactica 1980 - 30/1/2007 10:05:26 PM   
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For anyone interested, who has Bravo, Bravo has gone from the original BSG series straight into the much maligned and completely unavailable Galactica 1980, which includes the oft referred to epi 'The Return of Starbuck'.

Showing at 6pm daily the first epi was tonight.

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 30/1/2007 10:09:15 PM   
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Shit, I don't have Bravo.  It was a fairly poor programme but it would be nice to see it again, particularly the 'The Return of Starbuck'.   *Mild Spoiler* What ever became of him?  We'll never know. sigh

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 30/1/2007 11:36:52 PM   
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Shit, I don't have Bravo.  It was a fairly poor programme but it would be nice to see it again, particularly the 'The Return of Starbuck'.   *Mild Spoiler* What ever became of him?  We'll never know. sigh


He joined the A-Team, don't you remember? As if Templeton Peck is a real name...

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 30/1/2007 11:54:10 PM   
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It was a melancholy episode

Galactica 1980 with the flying motorbikes, scouts who can leap twenty feet in the air and Barry Van Dyke son of Dick.  What more can you ask for?

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 11:07:22 AM   
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Shit, I don't have Bravo.† It was a fairly poor programme but it would be nice to see it again, particularly the 'The Return of Starbuck'.†† *Mild Spoiler* What ever became of him?† We'll never know. sigh


He became a being of light didn't he? Or something like that............

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 11:43:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: elab49

For anyone interested, who has Bravo, Bravo has gone from the original BSG series straight into the much maligned and completely unavailable Galactica 1980, which includes the oft referred to epi 'The Return of Starbuck'.

Showing at 6pm daily the first epi was tonight.


In case your interested, and in case Bravo are showing them in the proper order, 'The Return of Starbuck' is the tenth and last episode of this very short series.

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 11:56:28 AM   
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I assume it will be as the original series was transmitted properly (although, annoyingly, the final epi was transmitted without the talk track and all you got was background noise!).

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 11:56:41 AM   
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***** SPOILERS ****
I thought when they made it to Earth it definately became a bit crap - the new characters were lame and lacked the coolness of the original crew.

The Starbuck episode - I think Starbuck had crash landed on some planet and met some girl who they had a kid with or something - it was really sad. Then if my memory is correct the kid left on a ship that didn't have enough space for Starbuck leaving him behind.


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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 12:05:33 PM   
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I seem to recall him being left on a planet too - they do like that in SF, being left in limbo like Quantum Leap.

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 12:14:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: elab49

I seem to recall him being left on a planet too - they do like that in SF, being left in limbo like Quantum Leap.


I haven't seen any of the new Battlestar series at all - is it any good compared to the old one? I avoid reading the relevant thread in case of spoilers

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 12:26:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

***** SPOILERS ****
I thought when they made it to Earth it definately became a bit crap - the new characters were lame and lacked the coolness of the original crew.

The Starbuck episode - I think Starbuck had crash landed on some planet and met some girl who they had a kid with or something - it was really sad. Then if my memory is correct the kid left on a ship that didn't have enough space for Starbuck leaving him behind.



I can remember he had reprogrammed a Cylon which became his friend and then found a woman who was from another dimension who had come to the planet to give birth.  Cylons attacked whilst she was in the process and Starbuck and friendly Cylon held them off whilst extra dimensional woman gave birth.  The friendly Cylon was destroyed and the woman and baby returned to their dimension leaving Starbuck alone on the planet.  Bit of a downer really.

with regards to new Galactica.  If you like your programmes to be unrelentingly dark and devoid of humour then this will be your thing.  It is good but not a good idea to watch a lot of episodes in one go without getting therapy.

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 12:40:13 PM   
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with regards to new Galactica.  If you like your programmes to be unrelentingly dark and devoid of humour then this will be your thing.  It is good but not a good idea to watch a lot of episodes in one go without getting therapy.



Fucking hell!

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 1:00:00 PM   
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It is a very good, quality sci-fi drama but it does pummel away at you a bit but I would say worth a look.  It lacks the camp value of the original although I do understand the actress who plays Number Six does look quite good in this months Playboy

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 1:18:19 PM   
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I seem to recall him being left on a planet too - they do like that in SF, being left in limbo like Quantum Leap.


I haven't seen any of the new Battlestar series at all - is it any good compared to the old one? I avoid reading the relevant thread in case of spoilers


BSG is one of the best things on TV at the moment and one of the best SF creations ever - and certainly not devoid of humour (think of James Callas in season1 - a joy to watch). It is, however, intelligent as well as action-packed. Some people I think get disappointed because they expect the constant high adrenaline of poorly scripted shows like 24, which are, however, superbly paced. With BSG you get quality. The original is camp crap in comparison and really not even remotely on the same level.

But the current BSG? About the only show on TV that deals with religion, war and terrorism in any kind of depth. It is described as not only as the best SF but the best political thriller currently on TV.

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 2:04:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: elab49

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ORIGINAL: elab49

I seem to recall him being left on a planet too - they do like that in SF, being left in limbo like Quantum Leap.


I haven't seen any of the new Battlestar series at all - is it any good compared to the old one? I avoid reading the relevant thread in case of spoilers


BSG is one of the best things on TV at the moment and one of the best SF creations ever - and certainly not devoid of humour (think of James Callas in season1 - a joy to watch). It is, however, intelligent as well as action-packed. Some people I think get disappointed because they expect the constant high adrenaline of poorly scripted shows like 24, which are, however, superbly paced. With BSG you get quality. The original is camp crap in comparison and really not even remotely on the same level.

But the current BSG? About the only show on TV that deals with religion, war and terrorism in any kind of depth. It is described as not only as the best SF but the best political thriller currently on TV.


So, it'll be worth a blind buy then?

Also, is the new mini series set before the events of Season 1?

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 2:07:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: elab49

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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

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ORIGINAL: elab49

I seem to recall him being left on a planet too - they do like that in SF, being left in limbo like Quantum Leap.


I haven't seen any of the new Battlestar series at all - is it any good compared to the old one? I avoid reading the relevant thread in case of spoilers


BSG is one of the best things on TV at the moment and one of the best SF creations ever - and certainly not devoid of humour (think of James Callas in season1 - a joy to watch). It is, however, intelligent as well as action-packed. Some people I think get disappointed because they expect the constant high adrenaline of poorly scripted shows like 24, which are, however, superbly paced. With BSG you get quality. The original is camp crap in comparison and really not even remotely on the same level.

But the current BSG? About the only show on TV that deals with religion, war and terrorism in any kind of depth. It is described as not only as the best SF but the best political thriller currently on TV.


So, it'll be worth a blind buy then?

Also, is the new mini series set before the events of Season 1?

Yeah, think of the Mini Series as a 3 hour pilot, and then Season 1 continues on from that

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 2:08:09 PM   
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The mini series is effectively the pilot episode so integral to season 1. A poster in the main thread mentioned managing to get the mini series and S1 and 2 for under a total of £35. I know CD Wow has the latter for about £15 and the mini is in most sales at the moment.

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 9:34:01 PM   
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I can't recommend the new BSG enough. Pretty much just have to echo what elab said 

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 9:40:38 PM   
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BSG is brilliant. I only got into it last January, and knew within the first 5 minutes of the miniseries that I was hooked. Couldn't believe I'd missed out on it for so long - it is very different from the scifi show I expected. It is character driven, and what I love about it is the way it portrays both sides of any conflict - you always question where your loyalties are as a viewer and it is never that easy to take a 'side'.

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 9:49:07 PM   
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You have got to admit it is pretty unrelenting though   Very heavy on the realism which does work well.

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 10:12:06 PM   
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I honestly don't think I'd agree - but it may just be a matter of description? I think of unrelenting as not showing a great deal of variation in terms of pace, normally to hide other inadequacies ie script. BSG is paced at several levels in different episodes - a variation that shows the confidence in the quality of the production. So, no - I wouldn't really call it unrelenting. But that's just how I define it.

You know, I seriously forgot how bad Galactica 80 is. It is like one extended bad Star Trek holosuite epi after another!

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 31/1/2007 10:19:46 PM   
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I meant more unrelenting in that it is continuously dark in tone with no real humour to punctuate the this tone.

Anyway change of subject. One thing I have been wondering.  In a Simpsons Halloween episode comic Book Guy had kidnapped Lucy Lawless and when covered in lucite posed in Lrne Greens Battlestar Galactica death scene which was "Best death scene ever."  Did Lorne Green die in Battlestar Galactica as he was in 1980 and that sort of peeters out at the end?

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 1/2/2007 12:00:28 AM   
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The Return of Starbuck made me want to jump off a bridge when I was a kid. Such a depressing ending.

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 1/2/2007 9:11:50 AM   
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I meant more unrelenting in that it is continuously dark in tone with no real humour to punctuate the this tone.



Ah - then we don't agree. Certainly not about the lack of humour.

Must look out that Simpsons epi though. But I don't remember him dying in the show - I'm sure he is in the last flashback epi (although reading about that, apparently they scripted but didn't film another epi where Starbuck was rescued by the ship of light).

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 1/2/2007 10:29:53 AM   
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The mini series is effectively the pilot episode so integral to season 1. A poster in the main thread mentioned managing to get the mini series and S1 and 2 for under a total of £35. I know CD Wow has the latter for about £15 and the mini is in most sales at the moment.


That was me  

Mini-series can be bought at £5ish from most places, S1 has been sold by Virginmetastores for £12.99 and then £9.99 (check as they may have put prices back up again - shops, not online), and CD-WOW has S2 for £15.99. 

Bargains! 

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 1/2/2007 11:43:28 AM   
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Just to drag it all back on-topic (and with mild *SPOILERS*, if you can have them for such an old show)...

I can't remember what happens to the woman in the end, but the baby that Starbuck sends off in the ship is the annoying super-intelligent brat that advises Adama in Galactica '80.  And the woman was pregnant when she arrived on the planet, he's not actually Starbucks kid (possibly that was the original intention, but c'mon, NO ONE will believe that basin haired, bespectacled little tit could ever be the fruit of Starbucks loins!!!!!)....

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 1/2/2007 11:45:59 AM   
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Just to drag it all back on-topic (and with mild *SPOILERS*, if you can have them for such an old show)...

I can't remember what happens to the woman in the end, but the baby that Starbuck sends off in the ship is the annoying super-intelligent brat that advises Adama in Galactica '80.  And the woman was pregnant when she arrived on the planet, he's not actually Starbucks kid (possibly that was the original intention, but c'mon, NO ONE will believe that basin haired, bespectacled little tit could ever be the fruit of Starbucks loins!!!!!)....


Yes, never quite got that story line.  I'm sure they were just making things up as they went along.

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 1/2/2007 11:55:55 AM   
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I'd completely forgotten about Dr Zee.  From the look of IMDB James Patrick Stuart has had quite a few tv roles since then.

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RE: Galactica 1980 - 1/2/2007 2:36:01 PM   
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RE: Lorne Greene. I think the Simpsons gag was more a comment on his roles in the past rather than Galactica specifically, I don't remember him dying in the series (has been years though). Wasn't he in a lot of Westerns and so on that may have involved his characters dying? He was the first "guest star" on Police Squad too.

What was the deal with the format change? You'd think if it was sufficiently succesful to warrant a second season they'd have carried on with Starbuck and Apollo as central characters. It was just odd. Buck Rogers did a similar thing in its second year and totally reworked its format as well, but at least all the original characters were there. I believe that was largely down to Gil Gerard's involvement on the creative side of things.


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RE: Galactica 1980 - 1/2/2007 2:37:32 PM   
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Just to drag it all back on-topic (and with mild *SPOILERS*, if you can have them for such an old show)...

I can't remember what happens to the woman in the end, but the baby that Starbuck sends off in the ship is the annoying super-intelligent brat that advises Adama in Galactica '80.  And the woman was pregnant when she arrived on the planet, he's not actually Starbucks kid (possibly that was the original intention, but c'mon, NO ONE will believe that basin haired, bespectacled little tit could ever be the fruit of Starbucks loins!!!!!)....


That sprog was definately a bit crap - just one of the problems with the series when they got to earth

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