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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 10/10/2012 12:19:30 AM   
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If only someone re-mixed Romney to an Enimen tune....
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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 10/10/2012 7:42:50 AM   
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 Don't have a link, but a report on the news last night suggested Romney leads in the polls.

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 10/10/2012 8:01:16 AM   
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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 10/10/2012 8:52:56 AM   
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Don't have a link, but a report on the news last night suggested Romney leads in the polls.


Depends on the poll, he has made some gains, but not enough as yet. There's still time for him to insert foot back into mouth. Huffington (which I know is left leaning, but does use Rasmussen) still has Obama ahead in the electoral college votes.

Obama 263, Romney 206 with 69 votes still a 'toss up' and very close. Have to get 270 to win.

Obama is outpacing him in fundraising which could have an impact - Romney blew his budget in the initial stages.

Not panicking just yet...........

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 10/10/2012 9:09:02 AM   
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19892102 puts it better than I can.

"The opinion polls right now do suggest that. The most dramatic is Pew, which gives Mr Romney a four point lead - last month they found Mr Obama had an eight-point lead.

If you don't trust such huge swings, Gallup gives Mr Romney 49% to Mr Obama's 47% among likely voters, but Mr Obama is leading in the same poll among registered voters.

Rasmussen has them level pegging on 46% among registered voters, noting sensibly, "since last week's debate, the numbers have shifted somewhat in Romney's direction, but even that change has been fairly modest".

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 10/10/2012 2:45:41 PM   
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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 10/10/2012 5:04:42 PM   
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I still think Obama will kick Romney's arse at the next two debates and will win the election.

The next debate involves the public asking questions and Romney isn't very good with people......

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 10/10/2012 7:04:39 PM   
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 Every time I think to mock Yankdom for considering Romney as President I remember enough Brits voted Tory to let Trish swan his way into No. 10.

Still can't believe there's enough 'Merkins willing to elect Romney. Surely there can't be.

Also, is it just me or have the terms "conservative" and "liberal" ceased to mean in American what they actually mean in English?

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 10/10/2012 7:34:51 PM   
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19892102 puts it better than I can.

"The opinion polls right now do suggest that. The most dramatic is Pew, which gives Mr Romney a four point lead - last month they found Mr Obama had an eight-point lead.


I'm not putting much faith in daily polling. Right now Romney's bounce is just that; it won't be until another week until we see whether that holds in any meaningful way.

Remember that the media has a vested interest in making this race as dramatic and 'close' as possible. The fact that they're writing so many articles on daily polls - which everyone knows are practically meaningless without any context - shows just how much they rely on somewhat articficial twists and turns that you get in a campaign (like various gaffes etc.) to fill content.


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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 10/10/2012 8:11:11 PM   
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Every time I think to mock Yankdom for considering Romney as President I remember enough Brits voted Tory to let Trish swan his way into No. 10.



64% of the country didn't vote Tory....

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 10/10/2012 8:51:57 PM   
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Every time I think to mock Yankdom for considering Romney as President I remember enough Brits voted Tory to let Trish swan his way into No. 10.



64% of the country didn't vote Tory....



Enough people did. Which is what I said.


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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 10/10/2012 9:50:41 PM   
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19892102 puts it better than I can.

"The opinion polls right now do suggest that. The most dramatic is Pew, which gives Mr Romney a four point lead - last month they found Mr Obama had an eight-point lead.


I'm not putting much faith in daily polling. Right now Romney's bounce is just that; it won't be until another week until we see whether that holds in any meaningful way.

Remember that the media has a vested interest in making this race as dramatic and 'close' as possible. The fact that they're writing so many articles on daily polls - which everyone knows are practically meaningless without any context - shows just how much they rely on somewhat articficial twists and turns that you get in a campaign (like various gaffes etc.) to fill content.



Yeah, I mucked up the quoting, those were actually Mark Mardell's words, I was trying to show that any 'gains' Romney has made are not actually that significant.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/presidential-polls-2012_n_1953910.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&utm_hp_ref=politics - this suggests it was only a temporary bounce for Romney.

The Right have seized on the debate and it has recharged Romney's campaign, but they've forgotten it's still another month till election day, and there's still another 2 debates. Romney has already started changing his position on contraception and abortion - forcing his campaign team into damage control.

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 10/10/2012 9:55:36 PM   
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Every time I think to mock Yankdom for considering Romney as President I remember enough Brits voted Tory to let Trish swan his way into No. 10.

Still can't believe there's enough 'Merkins willing to elect Romney. Surely there can't be.

Also, is it just me or have the terms "conservative" and "liberal" ceased to mean in American what they actually mean in English?


They do seem to use the word liberal as an insult, right up there with being a socialist communist brainwashed sheep.

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 11/10/2012 12:54:42 AM   
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19892102 puts it better than I can.

"The opinion polls right now do suggest that. The most dramatic is Pew, which gives Mr Romney a four point lead - last month they found Mr Obama had an eight-point lead.


I'm not putting much faith in daily polling. Right now Romney's bounce is just that; it won't be until another week until we see whether that holds in any meaningful way.

Remember that the media has a vested interest in making this race as dramatic and 'close' as possible. The fact that they're writing so many articles on daily polls - which everyone knows are practically meaningless without any context - shows just how much they rely on somewhat articficial twists and turns that you get in a campaign (like various gaffes etc.) to fill content.



Yeah, I mucked up the quoting, those were actually Mark Mardell's words, I was trying to show that any 'gains' Romney has made are not actually that significant.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/presidential-polls-2012_n_1953910.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&utm_hp_ref=politics - this suggests it was only a temporary bounce for Romney.

The Right have seized on the debate and it has recharged Romney's campaign, but they've forgotten it's still another month till election day, and there's still another 2 debates. Romney has already started changing his position on contraception and abortion - forcing his campaign team into damage control.


You think there might be a chance of Obama coming back? There seems to be a lot of judging of the candidates by the candidates' behaviour and Gallup and Pew seem to be favouring him by a margin. Obama actually managed to fuck this up.

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 11/10/2012 1:21:02 AM   
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 Obama will be fine; he'll do his Shaft thang next debate and blow dead-brain boy out of the water.

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 11/10/2012 3:19:56 AM   
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Speaking of campaign moments, although it probably didn't have that big an affect on its own, I still like to think that this swayed a lot of people last time:

http://youtu.be/_TiQCJXpbKg

I don't care what anyone says, I loved that RickRoll meme


If only someone re-mixed Romney to an Enimen tune....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxch-yi14BE&list=PL3CB99D6B204F307E&index=1&feature=plcp

Thank you internet.


That is just genius.

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 11/10/2012 3:29:42 AM   
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You think there might be a chance of Obama coming back? There seems to be a lot of judging of the candidates by the candidates' behaviour and Gallup and Pew seem to be favouring him by a margin. Obama actually managed to fuck this up.


http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

This is the only poll worth paying attention to.

Obama is still well ahead unless Romney can build on his current momentum and not fuck anything up. And considering his comments on abortion today where he forgot what position he's supposed to have, I think that's unlikely. No election is ever smooth sailing, it's bound to have its ups and downs. The VP debate will be interesting tomorrow; Biden's a pretty good debater and it's likely he'll want to undo the damage his team has suffered over the last week (in contrast to Ryan, Biden is very much a team player). Obama's a pretty competitive guy too; last weeks debate might end up being the best thing to happen to him. (It could also be the worst! But come on, it's no secret '47% of the country are wasters' video)

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 11/10/2012 8:38:02 AM   
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19892102 puts it better than I can.

"The opinion polls right now do suggest that. The most dramatic is Pew, which gives Mr Romney a four point lead - last month they found Mr Obama had an eight-point lead.


I'm not putting much faith in daily polling. Right now Romney's bounce is just that; it won't be until another week until we see whether that holds in any meaningful way.

Remember that the media has a vested interest in making this race as dramatic and 'close' as possible. The fact that they're writing so many articles on daily polls - which everyone knows are practically meaningless without any context - shows just how much they rely on somewhat articficial twists and turns that you get in a campaign (like various gaffes etc.) to fill content.



Yeah, I mucked up the quoting, those were actually Mark Mardell's words, I was trying to show that any 'gains' Romney has made are not actually that significant.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/presidential-polls-2012_n_1953910.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&utm_hp_ref=politics - this suggests it was only a temporary bounce for Romney.

The Right have seized on the debate and it has recharged Romney's campaign, but they've forgotten it's still another month till election day, and there's still another 2 debates. Romney has already started changing his position on contraception and abortion - forcing his campaign team into damage control.


You think there might be a chance of Obama coming back? There seems to be a lot of judging of the candidates by the candidates' behaviour and Gallup and Pew seem to be favouring him by a margin. Obama actually managed to fuck this up.


Yeah, I don't think this is as bad as some of the media would like to indicate. When you watch the the debate Obama wasn't actually BAD, he was calm, measured, what he said made sense, and he made some good points. Romney 'appeared' better as he appeared more animated and fired up - but he outright lied and changed his position on many issues.

I do have faith that, despite how they are portrayed, that the majority of voting Americans are mature, intelligent, responsible adults who can see past the spin. Yes, there will be some who can't see past Faux News' output (and they seem to get a lot of media coverage), but I don't believe that's a typical picture.

Just after the debate there were some soundbites of views: all 3 said Romney came across better than they had expected - didn't mean they believed him - 1 said "Romney won the Emmy for best performance at a debate, but he's not going to win this election".

I don't think this will be a landslide result in anyway, but I still think Obama will win. The fact the economy is improving - albeit slowly - and unemployment is down, that I believe will have a bigger impact.


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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 11/10/2012 5:42:53 PM   
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 Those crazy Republicans:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19842704

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 11/10/2012 6:10:37 PM   
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Those crazy Republicans:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19842704

Also, Ladan Cockshut (Tee hee).


It sounds to me like someone has been hacking her account and then stalking her?

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 11/10/2012 6:56:51 PM   
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 I know nothing about US politics other than Obama seems like a nice guy and Romney a lizard, but anyway I thought this was quite amusing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlwilbVYvUg

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 11/10/2012 8:39:33 PM   
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Every time I think to mock Yankdom for considering Romney as President I remember enough Brits voted Tory to let Trish swan his way into No. 10.



64% of the country didn't vote Tory....



Enough people did. Which is what I said.



Actually enough people didn't vote Tory - which is why a coalition was formed

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 11/10/2012 11:07:48 PM   
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Every time I think to mock Yankdom for considering Romney as President I remember enough Brits voted Tory to let Trish swan his way into No. 10.



64% of the country didn't vote Tory....



Enough people did. Which is what I said.



Actually enough people didn't vote Tory - which is why a coalition was formed


Hemmin! Can you nae read or are ye being deliberately niggly? Is Trish in No. 10? What did I write? Exactly. Now hud yer wheesht.

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 11/10/2012 11:47:03 PM   
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Every time I think to mock Yankdom for considering Romney as President I remember enough Brits voted Tory to let Trish swan his way into No. 10.



64% of the country didn't vote Tory....



Enough people did. Which is what I said.



Actually enough people didn't vote Tory - which is why a coalition was formed


Hemmin! Can you nae read or are ye being deliberately niggly? Is Trish in No. 10? What did I write? Exactly. Now hud yer wheesht.


Enough voted for a hung parliament, resulting in coalition. Not quite the same as "enough voted Cameron in"...because actually it wasn't enough. The coalition created the "enough".

Sort of.

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 12/10/2012 12:02:17 AM   
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But he didn't say they Cameron in - he said enough voted to let him in. Which is, as far as I recall, perfectly correct - they got the easiest shot at arranging a coalition as the biggest party. Had Labour the biggest vote I sincerely doubt the Libbies would have been overly eager to form a minority govt with the Tories.

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 12/10/2012 2:03:28 AM   
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Let's hope tonight's debate is more lively than the last one, go Biden

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 12/10/2012 2:25:38 AM   
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Holy. Shit. Joe.

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 12/10/2012 2:30:58 AM   
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Ryan gets a big laugh from the audience, Biden responds with his wife and daughter.

The man's good.

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 12/10/2012 2:33:01 AM   
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Ryan isn't really answering anything, is he?

Biden is kicking his ass but he seriously has to stop laughing and smirking.

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RE: 2012 US Presidential Debates - 12/10/2012 2:40:05 AM   
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 "Palin"- ZING!!!! Biden seems to be having fun at Ryan's expense.

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