Fluke Skywalker
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They've been bombing 'Al Qaeda' in Yemen and killed a lot of civilians so I don't think the people needed too much of an excuse to do this.
I do wonder what you mean with the apostrophes there. I do hope you're not seriously suggesting that there is not an Al Qaeda presence there.
Al Qaeda is a name invented by the CIA and a blanket propaganda label unifying various disparate terrorist groups. This allows them to continue with the War on Terror and maintain high levels of defence spending - essentially the US need to make it look like there's this evil global terror group like S.P.E.C.T.R.E. or someone out there.
There is no single islamic army/ terror group called Al Qaeda operating in the world which is why I used the apostrophes.
Sure hope you've got some sources there on this point.
BBC The Power of Nightmares :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mztfFdpd1Rk
On the note of Americans backing terrorists or at least condoning them we have to look at a few facts and then decide what you want to believe.
1.Have the Americans used terror groups/ death squads within countries to eliminate opposition in the past? Yes, a classic tactic of theirs is to arm groups within countries to destabilise them. Killing of civilians/ opponents has never been a problem and there is a ton of evidence to back this up.
2. 9/11 hijackers were Saudis, American started wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and left the Saudis completely untouched. Considering were talking about one of the most corrupt and gung ho US governments of all time in the Bush era - why would they leave alone the very country Bin Laden and the hijackers sprung up from? We also know the Saudis are preaching extreme forms of Islam, the Salafi fighters now in Syria are Saudi backed. Why don't America move against them or bring them into line?
3. We have had suicide bomb attacks against the Syrian regime, effectively we have terrorists fighting for the same cause as western foreign policy. Terror groups also flooded Iraq - but their primary targets were always other muslims not the occupying forces. Extremely odd. Interestingly there are no terror groups attempting to destabilise the likes of Bahrain in the same manner.
It doesn't add up - on one hand we have America fighting the War on Terror, but leaving the primary culprit Saudi Arabia well alone. We also have 'Al Qaeda' appearing to help to bring down non compliant arab countries in the middle east - effectively helping the west forment regime change.
Pure and utter conspiracy theory bait, there are massive divisiosn in the Islamic world: Iran/Iraq war Sunni/Shia etc
Of course there are - but they've been exploited by western interests before most recently in Iraq.
And the group behind September 11th didn't srping up from Saudi Arabia (some were also Egyptian and possibly a Moroccan, Bin Laden I think was born in Yemen. the nucleus of the group got together in Germany. There are some dodgy Saudi government links but to put them bang in the center is as far off as a light house.
Come on most of the hijackers were Saudi, Bin Laden's Saudi connections are common knowledge.
Why do the US turn a blind eye to Saudi Arabia, you have to ask!
This is my point though - American purport to be fighting this civilisation-saving battle against terrorism and yet they completely ignore the Saudis, a country clearly involved in radicalisation. What conclusions can you draw from this? Makes no sense unless you look for darker motives
Al Qaeada isn't some monoltihic group it's a network of networks, the nucleus of which was probably about 30 people who acted as figure heads and provided training funding for other groups. It's a useful umbrella term.
An umbrella term actually dreamt up by the Americans
Here's an article that touches on exactly what I've been talking about,
'The US had fed the al-Qa'ida scorpion and now it had bitten America. And so Washington now supports the opposition against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, was helping Saudi Arabia and Qatar pour cash and weapons to the militias (including Salafists and al-Qa'ida) and would, inevitably, be bitten by the same "scorpion" if Assad was overthrown.'
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-alqaida-cashes-in-as-the-scorpion-gets-in-among-the-good-guys-8143267.html
< Message edited by Fluke Skywalker -- 17/9/2012 1:06:56 PM >
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