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RE: The Obama Presidency and US politics in general - 11/5/2012 6:27:57 PM   
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RE: The Obama Presidency and US politics in general - 11/5/2012 6:34:28 PM   
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Nice to see him come out and support it (lol, I said come out). I'm not sure what it will do in the short term but it will certainly matter in the future. I just hope it doesn't affect his re-election chances

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RE: The Obama Presidency and US politics in general - 28/6/2012 12:03:25 PM   
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Health care legislation ruling due soon. My guess is it'll be struck down.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 28/6/2012 1:36:38 PM   
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If it is it will look very bad for Obama with him being a constitutional scholar; if they were'nt such a ball-less party the democrats could then force the republicans to suggest another option. The human windsock/Romney will also be in a bind as it's similar to what he initiated in Massachussets.
Apparently many healthinsurance companies stock went up after passing of the bill, it would be hilarious if it wend down because "deepest, darkest socialism " was rejected.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 28/6/2012 3:19:03 PM   
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Decision is starting to come out
The decision seems to be this – Roberts says the court Can’t force you to buy health insurance. But they can tax you for not having it.

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RE: The Obama Presidency and US politics in general - 28/6/2012 5:07:45 PM   
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Health care legislation ruling due soon. My guess is it'll be struck down.


Most of it was upheld.

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RE: The Obama Presidency and US politics in general - 28/6/2012 6:24:16 PM   
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 It was upheld! CNN and Fox both reported that it was struck down initially, then had to correct that a few minutes later.

Big day for Obama. Terrible day for Romney (though it WAS his idea, I doubt that'll give him much comfort!). A lot of people predicting its demise seemed to base it on the Justice's thorough grilling of the law from a few months ago though that was always going to be their job anyway, to properly vet the law and ascertain all its interpretations and intricacies. One of the more 'liberal' Justices sided against the law while George W. Bush's appointee upheld the law.

Pretty much everyone predicted the opposite was going to happen. Should be interesting to see how this plays out in the election.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 28/6/2012 6:30:19 PM   
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Could be bad for Obama in that it was passed as it is similar to a tax; great attack ad material.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 28/6/2012 11:28:54 PM   
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 America is weird.

I hope the zoomers given face time on my TV by the beeb's news channel are fringe elements. Communist country? Mentalists.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 29/6/2012 12:39:17 AM   
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 The gall of that shameless fucktard Romney using Obamacare as his main campaign weapon even though it was him who came up with it in the first place is fucking astonishing.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 29/6/2012 6:02:17 AM   
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I found this highly amusing. People who say they are leaving the US because 'Obamacare' (which it isn't actually called, but still...) has been passed. Where have they said they are moving to? -click.

If they are serious then all of those people are morons. Some of the comments below are quite good, too.



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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 29/6/2012 11:31:14 AM   
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I've been facinated with the Obamacare debate, I genuinely don't understand the level of opposition to it.
Is there any wecsite I can go to with an articulate arguement against it?
Ideally someone you can make the case without using the words socialist, nazi, dictatorship or antichrist.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 29/6/2012 3:54:32 PM   
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I found this highly amusing. People who say they are leaving the US because 'Obamacare' (which it isn't actually called, but still...) has been passed. Where have they said they are moving to? -click.

If they are serious then all of those people are morons. Some of the comments below are quite good, too.



Idiots.

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I've been facinated with the Obamacare debate, I genuinely don't understand the level of opposition to it.
Is there any wecsite I can go to with an articulate arguement against it?
Ideally someone you can make the case without using the words socialist, nazi, dictatorship or antichrist.


I wouldn't hold your breath.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 29/6/2012 4:30:35 PM   
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I've been facinated with the Obamacare debate, I genuinely don't understand the level of opposition to it.



Health corporations in league with the Republicunts and christian groups using the corporate media to brainwash the more cerebrally challenged Americans.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 17/7/2012 11:54:17 PM   
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 Rush Limbaugh at his absolute best here!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/rush-limbaugh-bane-bain-conspiracy-dark-knight-rises-batman-350311

Fuck me, how does this man have any sort of following or political influence?

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 18/7/2012 12:14:51 AM   
Spaldron


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Rush Limbaugh at his absolute best here!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/rush-limbaugh-bane-bain-conspiracy-dark-knight-rises-batman-350311

Fuck me, how does this man have any sort of following or political influence?


The man's a troll in human from and thicker than a bowl of Tiger shite. I personally would pay attention to anything that farts out of his big fat gob.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 19/7/2012 12:12:13 PM   
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But Batman is probally the most right wing superhero out there. His only real superpawer is that he's a really good capitalist.

This is sadder than Fox attacking the Muppet movie.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 19/7/2012 4:52:52 PM   
Spaldron


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But Batman is probally the most right wing superhero out there. His only real superpawer is that he's a really good capitalist.



Wrong thread dude.

http://www.empireonline.com/forum/tm.asp?m=3457157

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 20/7/2012 9:24:25 AM   
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But Batman is probally the most right wing superhero out there. His only real superpawer is that he's a really good capitalist.



Wrong thread dude.

http://www.empireonline.com/forum/tm.asp?m=3457157


after writing that I did stroll over to the thread...then backed away slowly

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 28/7/2012 8:48:56 AM   
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 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/27/mitt-romney-gaffe-strewn-london?newsfeed=true

So Romney's visit to the UK has essentially shown him up to be a bit of a joke on the world stage.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 28/7/2012 9:37:54 AM   
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 Ha! Good thing the Americans will NEVER vote for someone like that as President!







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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 28/7/2012 7:36:31 PM   
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 Most of the reports seem to be that people in the US are stating they do not care what anyone outside thinks of their candidate (even though he comes across as a massively arrogant undiplomatic idiot). I guess no one told him this visit was supposed to be about showing he could be a statesman on the world stage.

I do like how people at No. 10 are saying he came across as even more stupid and arrogant than Palin.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 29/7/2012 2:53:27 AM   
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Most of the reports seem to be that people in the US are stating they do not care what anyone outside thinks of their candidate


That's nothing new, most Americans are as self-absorbed and ignorant as he is.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 29/7/2012 3:12:35 AM   
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Most of the reports seem to be that people in the US are stating they do not care what anyone outside thinks of their candidate


That's nothing new, most Americans are as self-absorbed and ignorant as he is.


Xenophobia much?

Spaldron, I'm tired of your posts in this thread. Just because a proportion of the populace disagrees with you doesn't make the nation stupid.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 29/7/2012 4:14:51 AM   
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Most of the reports seem to be that people in the US are stating they do not care what anyone outside thinks of their candidate


That's nothing new, most Americans are as self-absorbed and ignorant as he is.


Xenophobia much?

Spaldron, I'm tired of your posts in this thread. Just because a proportion of the populace disagrees with you doesn't make the nation stupid.


Bit harsh no?

Ok maybe not most Americans but a large proportion of them at least.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 29/7/2012 5:16:13 AM   
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Mit Romney: odd name but looks and sounds like a nice guy , I like him and that's my ten cents

Sounds funny but I tend to think if you get a good vibe from looking at a candidate then trust your hunch. Obama v McCain, Obama looked like a nice guy, McCain looked like an old red neck with an agenda on his mind hehe. In short McCain looked a bit 'dangerous' if put in power, especially with his sidekick Palin, you could sense the pending danger.

Anyway that's my simple view, I'm British and I know nothing of US politics honesty is the best policy

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 29/7/2012 7:29:52 AM   
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 The impression I get from him is that he is an individual very quick to proportion blame without first obtaining facts (instances both in the past and present day) also very much an opportunist who steps up and takes credit for things even when he was not massively involved. Personally he may be ok (although a bit of an idiot) but politically he comes across a bit meh.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 29/7/2012 11:17:17 AM   
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Most of the reports seem to be that people in the US are stating they do not care what anyone outside thinks of their candidate


That's nothing new, most Americans are as self-absorbed and ignorant as he is.


Having a large number of American friends, and having dated a few more this is a pretty rubbish thing to say to be honest.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 29/7/2012 11:31:36 AM   
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Most of the reports seem to be that people in the US are stating they do not care what anyone outside thinks of their candidate


That's nothing new, most Americans are as self-absorbed and ignorant as he is.


To be honest though, why should they care? Do we care what Americans think of our politicians? I don't think I've ever thought about how our politics are discussed in America.

At the end of the day, it's the Americans that have to vote and live under the laws that their chosen government passes, it has no effect on us whatsoever. Calling most American's self-absorbed and ignorant because they don't know what people outside of their country think about their politicians is incredibly insulting, you really should think about what you're saying there Spald.

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RE: The Race for the White House - 2008 Election - 29/7/2012 4:49:09 PM   
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Mit Romney: odd name but looks and sounds like a nice guy , I like him and that's my ten cents

People said that about W. Bush.

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The impression I get from him is that he is an individual very quick to proportion blame without first obtaining facts (instances both in the past and present day) also very much an opportunist who steps up and takes credit for things even when he was not massively involved. Personally he may be ok (although a bit of an idiot) but politically he comes across a bit meh.


He's a CEO masquerading as a politician, a rich kid who's spent most of his life downsizing companies and sacking workers whilst at the same time championing the elite and powerful. He stands for the banks and de-regulation while claiming to be "one of the people" and would sell his Gran to get votes.

As for the ignorant comment I did correct that upthread and stand by it. Claiming many Americans are ignorant and self-absorbed is no different to saying many British are ignorant and self-absorbed, both are true.

If I'm wrong then explain how Bush got re-elected? Or how Romney is only a few points behind Obama?

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