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WATERWORLD - 1/9/2010 10:01:33 PM   
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WATERWORLD - 9/9/2010 4:16:44 AM   
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Unused poster art by the main man, Drew Struzan...



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RE: WATERWORLD - 9/9/2010 5:04:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Snake-Eyes

Unused poster art by the main man, Drew Struzan...

 


Very nice! He does love those orange tones eh

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RE: WATERWORLD - 10/9/2010 9:15:08 PM   
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I thoroughly enjoyed Waterworld on the 1st viewing, and every time since

a guilty pleasure perhaps? or a great Sunday / Christmas vacation movie?



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RE: WATERWORLD - 11/9/2010 10:10:54 AM   
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I thoroughly enjoyed Waterworld on the 1st viewing, and every time since

a guilty pleasure perhaps? or a great Sunday / Christmas vacation movie?



All of the above bandit

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RE: WATERWORLD - 11/9/2010 3:10:16 PM   
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Another aspect of this film which is truly memorable is the score by James Newton Howard - Truly epic and adventurous in an almost INDIANA JONES style.

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WATERWORLD - 26/9/2010 11:08:54 AM   
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Listening to the soundtrack again, just reminds me of what a beautiful time of my like 1995 was. Man, I wanna go back to the day I first watched WATERWORLD at the cinema; everything was perfect.

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WATERWORLD - 4/11/2011 9:27:21 AM   
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Ol' Snake-Eyes is holed up with a stinkin' cold right now and so I'm watching WATERWORLD. Don't care what anyone says, this is a great film! Yeah, it's mostly nonsense but who cares? Just a fun movie.

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RE: WATERWORLD - 5/11/2011 9:25:50 AM   
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Thank god for the Empire forum!! Where else could you find a Waterworld 'appreciation' thread?? Not many i tell you!

I LOVE WATERWORLD!!! One of the coolest , dumbest, action sci fi flicks period!

I'm a big fan of Costner, ever since The Untouchables and Dances with Wolves. And this role suited him like fish to water (pun intended!). I love all the set pieces, and production designs are amazing. I always had the hots for Jeanne Tripplhorn (hope i got her name right!). In my view, she was far sexier than Shazza in THAT film! LOL! (she was nicknamed 'TripplePORN!)

I love Dennis Hopper, its almost like he walked off from the set of Apocalypse Now and wondered into Waterworld!

A wicked film and a guilty pleasure!?

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RE: WATERWORLD - 5/11/2011 3:36:00 PM   
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Waterworld isnt a terrible film by any means.Its entertaining enough with some great action scenes and photography.However,its really,REALLY dumb! You could write a book on how dumb it is.

The action peaks early on with the Atoll battle which is very impressive but after that it gets a bit boring.The Road Warrior was miles better than this on a fraction of the budget.


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RE: WATERWORLD - 6/11/2011 12:08:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: darth silas

Waterworld isnt a terrible film by any means.Its entertaining enough with some great action scenes and photography.However,its really,REALLY dumb! You could write a book on how dumb it is.

The action peaks early on with the Atoll battle which is very impressive but after that it gets a bit boring.The Road Warrior was miles better than this on a fraction of the budget.



I take offence to that mate, Waterworld isnt just dumb, its BEYOND dumb...its UBER dumb....but in a nice way!

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RE: WATERWORLD - 6/11/2011 1:05:57 AM   
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Well i love this as anyone who read my top 20 thread will know, no. 20 on the list, great movie!

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RE: WATERWORLD - 6/11/2011 1:34:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Snake-Eyes

Unused poster art by the main man, Drew Struzan...



What kind of crazy person decides not to use a Drew Struzan poster design? If he wasn't retired I'd save up all my money and commission a portrait of myself from him!

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RE: WATERWORLD - 6/11/2011 2:02:08 AM   
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Well i love this as anyone who read my top 20 thread will know, no. 20 on the list, great movie!


Dude, your avatar - some scary shit!

BTW. I must commend you for having the balls to have this in your top 20! Its a brilliant fucking film and deserves to be seen by the 'younger' generation. I know theres kids out there who would love it!

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WATERWORLD - 22/2/2012 5:52:58 AM   
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WATERWORLD soundtrack by James Newton Howard - Track 6, "Swimming" Perfect for the early morning before the daily grind.

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RE: WATERWORLD - 22/2/2012 11:51:25 AM   
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I love this movie, used to watch it all the time when I was younger. Dennis Hopper's brilliant: "You know, I thought you were stupid friend, but I underestimated you; you're a total freakin' retard!"

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RE: WATERWORLD - 22/2/2012 12:16:18 PM   
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Still a big favourite of mine. The fact that they ran out of money and everyone wanted to go home becomes pretty evident around the 2/3 mark but it's still great fun. I love Costner's completely deadpan performance - the character is supposed to be completely blank behind the eyes and that allows him to ride a thin line between sublime and wooden like no-one else.

The star of the film though is Costner's transforming trimaran boat - that's one hell of a prop and thanks to CGI not something you're likely to see in a tent-pole release again. One of the best vehicles in cinema history by far. The opening chase scene is just awesome.

And of course the soundtrack is terrific, as is JNW's score to The Postman.

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RE: WATERWORLD - 22/2/2012 1:30:09 PM   
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The film is fun in many ways with some good action at the start but its also just as crap, my worst gripe is how badly shot it is. It looks like it was made cheaply in the 70's despite the mahoosive budget it had. Its also very badly plotted and paced, the characters are given no explanation or purpose other than to move the story forward. Still its fascinating to watch the film that sunk Costner's career.

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RE: WATERWORLD - 22/2/2012 1:57:42 PM   
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Nah it's class. Kevin Reynolds did a great job under torturous conditions. The Atoll attack is one of my alltime favourite action sequences!

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RE: Waterworld - 22/2/2012 2:20:10 PM   
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Waterworld is just a massive pile of shit.


I couldn't put it better myself.

Also where the hell do they get the tobacco from for all the cigarettes/cigars that are constantly being smoked? Still not as bad as The Postman though.

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RE: WATERWORLD - 22/2/2012 7:59:22 PM   
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Nah it's class. Kevin Reynolds did a great job under torturous conditions. The Atoll attack is one of my alltime favourite action sequences!


THIS.

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RE: WATERWORLD - 23/2/2012 1:32:19 PM   
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RE: WATERWORLD - 23/2/2012 4:13:08 PM   
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The film is fun in many ways with some good action at the start but its also just as crap, my worst gripe is how badly shot it is. It looks like it was made cheaply in the 70's despite the mahoosive budget it had. Its also very badly plotted and paced, the characters are given no explanation or purpose other than to move the story forward. Still its fascinating to watch the film that sunk Costner's career.



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RE: WATERWORLD - 25/2/2012 4:28:08 PM   
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Heard recently that Reynolds and Costner are reuniting for the TV miniseries "Hatfields & McCoys", also starring The Paxton now he's finished being a Mormon. Sounds interesting and it'll be good seeing KC back in a western setting. Hearing this also made me realise I haven't watched Open Range for several years. Going to have to sort that out!

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RE: WATERWORLD - 25/2/2012 4:49:12 PM   
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Heard recently that Reynolds and Costner are reuniting for the TV miniseries "Hatfields & McCoys", also starring The Paxton now he's finished being a Mormon. Sounds interesting and it'll be good seeing KC back in a western setting. Hearing this also made me realise I haven't watched Open Range for several years. Going to have to sort that out!


Wasnt Kevin Costner a figment of our imagination?

Good to see him back.The Untouchables,No Way Out and JFK were all enjoyable films.

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RE: Waterworld - 29/2/2012 5:46:38 PM   
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This is by far one of my favorite films of all time, flaws and all. The flaws I will lay at the feet of Kevin Reynolds, as I’m more than willing to absolve Costner for all the film’s sins. I don’t know if that has any basis in reality (as disastrous casting like that of Enola – the worlds worst and most annoying child actor of all time – is something over which he’d no doubt have had veto power), but his Mariner remains one of the most iconic cinema bad asses of the past 30 years and for that he earns my loyalty. The Mariner WAS hard, harder than any normal “hero”, and I respect him for it. Like Enola says: “He doesn’t have a home, or people to care for. He doesn’t have a name…. so death can’t find him. . He’s not afraid of *anything*, men least of all. He’s fast and strong like a big wind. He can hear a hundred miles and see a hundred miles underwater. He can hide in the shadow of the noon sun. He could be right behind you, and you wouldn’t even know it ’til you’re dead”


The music, world building, the little lime tree, *the amazing trimaran*, all of it is one of a kind and instantly unforgettable. I’m not ashamed to say I’m in love, in a lusty, wildly romantic way with WATERWORLD, though I lament the missed opportunities… it could have been so much better. Had that hurricane not taken out the slaver set (rumored to rival the Atol set in sheer size), how cool would that sequence have been (the set sunk to the bottom of the ocean)? Had Enonla not made you want to gouge your ears out.. had they just combined Helen and Enola into one character… what could have been? I don’t really like Hopper at all either, as he’s so corny it’s just awful… but what if they’d had someone with a real animal menace in the role? Someone who truly seemed like they’d gone crazy from too many years baking under the unrelenting sun of Waterworld?


So yes, it could have been much much better.. but you know what? Most of what is in the extended cut sounds like it would already improve the film by leaps and bounds. I’ve heard rumors that the original true director’s cut was 3+ hours, and if that were to someday hit DVD.. well I think the public at large would have to do a complete reevaluation of the movie. It would no longer be a punch line. As it is, I’ve seen bits and pieces of the TV cut, and even though not all the extra footage is there, what has been added is enough to make for a richer experience and I’d wholeheartedly recommend everyone check it out

Thanks for starting this thread. Hopefully someday the misplaced “embarrassment” Universal and Costner feel over this will evaporate, and we’ll see the movie as he originally intended. It’s a damn bloody brilliant near masterpiece, and I am on a quest to see every last minute of it they shot!

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RE: Waterworld - 1/3/2012 1:51:34 PM   
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it's great to read of some more passion for the movie. I hold dear my blu ray of this, but think it's a missed opportunity for an extras loaded release. I dont think that will ever happen as it appears that everyone who was involved with this still wants no association with it.

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RE: Waterworld - 1/3/2012 2:03:00 PM   
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If you watch Costner on Inside The Actor's Studio, he does speak quite fondly of it. For better or worse, the film was a milestone and deserves recognition for the fact. Its appeal to me is basically that I'd rather watch an ambitious failure than a competent run-of-the-mill affair, which is the same reason I also quite like The Postman.

Either way, King of Kafiristan, that was a superb post!

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RE: Waterworld - 1/3/2012 2:47:10 PM   
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I think a film about the making of Waterworld would be more dramatic than the film itself (Not hard i know).

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RE: Waterworld - 1/3/2012 6:41:51 PM   
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quote:

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If you watch Costner on Inside The Actor's Studio, he does speak quite fondly of it. For better or worse, the film was a milestone and deserves recognition for the fact. Its appeal to me is basically that I'd rather watch an ambitious failure than a competent run-of-the-mill affair, which is the same reason I also quite like The Postman.

Either way, King of Kafiristan, that was a superb post!



Cheers! I'm definitely unashamed to champion WATERWORLD: it is one of the last great practically shot epics. The scale of the production is truly awe inspiring, and I love the world they created. I'm rather fond of THE POSTMAN too, though I have to say it can't hold a candle to the book, which is one of my favorite novels of all time.

PS Kevin Costner is an extremely talented director, and it's a shame he's not been given more of an opportunity to flex those skills in the wake of OPEN RANGE - a film I consider to be one of the finest westerns of all time.

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