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Neil Gaiman - genius? - 10/1/2007 9:50:52 PM   
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Having just finished Anansi Boys, I've decided that Neil Gaiman is borderline genius and better than Pratchett. The soon to be filmed Stardust, the excellent Neverwhere and the absolutely immense American Gods are all fantastic reads. Just thought I'd bring this up. Anyone else a fan?

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 10/1/2007 9:59:32 PM   
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Oh dear lord yes!  I've met him and he's incredibly funny and down to earth.  He signed my hardback limited edition Stardust and even drew in it for me!

I have a signed pre-edition copy of Fragile Things.

I've adored Gaiman since his Marvel days.  The man is a genius.  The Wolves in the Walls has made my daughter become interested in reading!

Gaiman has all my respect.  I'll buy one of his books that I don't have in a heartbeat!

Errm. Yeah.  I kinda like his stuff.


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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 10/1/2007 10:20:39 PM   
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I was just reading about Fragile Things and it looks pretty good, the short story that continues after American Gods sounded intriguing.
What about Coraline, is it any good? And are they making it into a film of sorts?

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 10/1/2007 10:49:52 PM   
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I've adored Gaiman since his Marvel days. 


I assume you meant his DC/Vertigo days, unless of course you discovered the Neil a couple of years ago. Kudos to your taste regardless. He is for my money, the best contemporary fantasy writer working today.

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What about Coraline, is it any good? And are they making it into a film of sorts?


It's not bad, though it really is a younger kid's book, and clearly should be read aloud by yourself to one of your own. Henry Selick of Nightmare Before Christmas fame is making a stop motion film of it.

Really looking forward to Stardust, even though it's one of the few longer works of Gaiman that I haven't got round to yet.


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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 11/1/2007 12:51:06 PM   
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I've adored Gaiman since his Marvel days. 


I assume you meant his DC/Vertigo days, unless of course you discovered the Neil a couple of years ago. Kudos to your taste regardless. He is for my money, the best contemporary fantasy writer working today.



Oops   That will teach me to post when I've been drinking!  Yes I did mean the DC days.  Yes Coraline is being made

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 11/1/2007 3:32:33 PM   
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Amazing writer!!!  Am taking my time with Fragile Things and reading the odd story between other books, he's done some wonderful short stories.

I managed to get a pristine HB edition of Angels and Visitations a few years back on ebay, don't think there's much in it that wasn't in Smoke and Mirrors tho.  It's one of very few books I've bought just for the sake of a complete collection...

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 11/1/2007 6:03:55 PM   
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I felt Fragile Things  is a big let down and far less consistent that his previous work with some excellent stories such as A study in Emerald but many more very mediocre stories.

He is very good at stories with a dark lilt to them as he showed in Sandman one of the rare comics to gain universal praise and worth a look even to those who are not comic fans.  His collection of short stories in comic form Midnight Days is also very good with the Sandman Mystery Theatre story and Hellblazer story the highlights.

I understand his short story Murder Mysteries about the very first murder in heaven as in film development at the moment.

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 11/1/2007 9:32:23 PM   
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I have to admit i didnt like Anansi Boys or Stardust but American Gods is a masterpiece!
I fell in love with that book and rushed through it as fast as i could, even sitting in class reading it (luckily my philosophy teacher is a big fan and we discussed it).
Will definately get my hans on Neverwhere.

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 12/1/2007 2:38:37 PM   
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Good Omens got me into him and I've gone from there - just read Anansi Boys and I'm making my way through Sandman. What. A. Dude.

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 12/1/2007 3:01:14 PM   
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I'm going to have to re-read American Gods.  First time round I enjoyed it ok but....I don't know....I felt in certain bits the writing was a bit childish? rushed?  I'm not sure really but it didn't make as big an impact as it seems to have on others and I usually adore books like that.

He's stilla wesome though.  I loved Good Omens and bought my wife Anansi boys for christmas and she is thouroughly enjoying it.

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 12/1/2007 4:12:19 PM   
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I'm going to have to re-read American Gods.  First time round I enjoyed it ok but....I don't know....I felt in certain bits the writing was a bit childish? rushed?  I'm not sure really but it didn't make as big an impact as it seems to have on others and I usually adore books like that.

He's stilla wesome though.  I loved Good Omens and bought my wife Anansi boys for christmas and she is thouroughly enjoying it.


I agree Beer, American Gods was okay but not particulary original or well written. I was waiting for a big pay off at the end and Shadow is such a one dimensional character that he ruined my enjoyment of the whole thing. But then of course you read the Sandman and he jumps out at you again. Certinaly not a genius in prose, but a very good comic book writer (although he nicks alot from Moore)

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 13/1/2007 10:57:21 AM   
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Aw, the guy is fantastic, he really is. I picked up American Gods for £3 from WH Smith last Christmas on a total whim, and it's one of the greatest novels I've ever read. Just finishing off Smoke and Mirrors at the minute, some of the stuff in there is incredible, too. I lent American Gods to my parents and they've both read it, loved it, and bought Neverwhere, so once they're finished that I'll be working my way through it.

Regarding the criticism of American Gods, particularly Shadow - I really disagree that he's one-dimensional. It would have been very easy for him to have been the typical, clichéd tortured-dark-hero-with-a-soul, but I think Gaiman manages to just avoid this, by giving him some beautiful scenes and great dialogue. My only minor criticism is that the book occasionally loses it's way towards the end. Aside from that, it's definitely a modern classic.


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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 15/1/2007 5:14:32 PM   
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I love Neil Gainman, I also love his work with Dave McKean. Wolves in the wall is a great kids book  and Mirrormask of course.
I havn't read Neverwhere but it was made into a TV Show, I havn't seen it but you can get it on DVD.

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 16/1/2007 12:07:30 PM   
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Although in The Tragical Comedy or Comical Tragedy of Mr Punch: A Romance I did find McKeans artwork did make it a very difficult read.

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 17/1/2007 9:10:29 AM   
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I think the series of Neverwhere was made first and he adapted his own script for his first book (may be wrong).  The series is ok but the book was better.  There was talk of a big budget film a few years back...

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 17/1/2007 9:36:06 AM   
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I think the series of Neverwhere was made first and he adapted his own script for his first book (may be wrong).  The series is ok but the book was better.  There was talk of a big budget film a few years back...


Indeed it was.  But as enjoyable as the show was, it was kind of let down by its restrictive budget.  Interestingly, it's also a monthly comic now too.  I've always thought that there was great scope for a big-budget movie there- perhaps Gaiman could sue JK Rowling for plagarism and use the winnings to make the movie?  

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 21/1/2007 2:59:02 PM   
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I've always thought that there was great scope for a big-budget movie there- perhaps Gaiman could sue JK Rowling for plagarism and use the winnings to make the movie?  


As Gaiman himself has pointed out, TH White could justifiably come to both his and Rowling's houses and claim some money, so there's probably not going to be a lawsuit, or a Books of Magic movie anytime soon.

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 21/1/2007 6:34:13 PM   
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I think the series of Neverwhere was made first and he adapted his own script for his first book (may be wrong).  The series is ok but the book was better.  There was talk of a big budget film a few years back...


Indeed it was.  But as enjoyable as the show was, it was kind of let down by its restrictive budget.  Interestingly, it's also a monthly comic now too.  I've always thought that there was great scope for a big-budget movie there- perhaps Gaiman could sue JK Rowling for plagarism and use the winnings to make the movie?  


Wasn't that the one where there was supposed to be an underground magical market which they achieved by putting a few fairy lights up?

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 22/1/2007 1:35:38 PM   
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Wasn't that the one where there was supposed to be an underground magical market which they achieved by putting a few fairy lights up?


Yeah, pretty much. At the time it was compared to Doctor Who, and not in a good way.

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 15/3/2007 10:15:17 PM   
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Over halfway through Anansi Boys and once again, I'm blown away. Beautiful, and completely unlike his other works.


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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 5/3/2008 1:52:41 PM   
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Damndest thing - this doesn't appear going through the pages but turns up on search! Does search find archived stuff that isn't shown anymore?

Anyway - Gaiman has written an original short story for World Book Day out now - Odd and the Frost Giants. Only £1.

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 5/3/2008 1:59:06 PM   
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Over halfway through Anansi Boys and once again, I'm blown away. Beautiful, and completely unlike his other works.



Nothing like American Gods then?

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 5/3/2008 2:05:20 PM   
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You can get American Gods for free online until the end of the month.
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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 12/5/2009 10:46:27 AM   
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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 12/5/2009 9:08:34 PM   
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http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/221843/march-16-2009/neil-gaiman

Excellent interview with Gaiman on The Colbert Report a few months back. 

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 16/5/2009 1:50:46 PM   
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Who added a question mark to the title? He IS a genius

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 17/5/2009 9:44:53 PM   
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Couldn't agree more.  Would be nice if he came back over here to live though.

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 18/5/2009 12:07:32 AM   
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love gaimens work...first i read was The Kindly Ones (the 9th Sandman book) which i found tucked away in a library, initially got it cos i loved McKeans covers and went on to love the book an get the the others


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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 18/5/2009 5:57:14 AM   
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Couldn't agree more.  Would be nice if he came back over here to live though.


I reckon he will in a few years time - he mentioned in a recent interview that he's starting to feel too comfortable in the US and wants to live somewhere unfamiliar again.

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RE: Neil gaiman - Genius - 18/5/2009 7:09:00 PM   
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Hmm maybe.  When I met him he was saying that he likes returning to the UK but couldn't see a permanent return on the cards.

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