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Darren Aronofsky - 17/12/2006 11:44:03 PM   
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 Hi Guys and Gals

Just a quick question, what do people think of Darren Aronofsky's "Pi"

I've always wanted to watch it, and well i thought i'd ask y'all if its anygood and worth the hype that it receives.

Muchas muchas gracias


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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 17/12/2006 11:50:00 PM   
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Honestly? I much prefer it to Requiem.

I was fortunate enough to catch Pi at the cinema on release. Quite a trippy experience (can't remember if I'd been smoking something or not,  but I totally "got" the movie).

Got some lovely imagery too, without ruining anything: Brain in the sink, ant goo, sunshine...

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 17/12/2006 11:51:20 PM   
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 I think its a great film, but I know theres a lot of people out there that aren't so keen on it, I can see some people thinking its a bit pretentious and it does look a bit cheap but then it did cost hardly anything to make and I think thats part of its charm. You should be able to get it for about a fiver on dvd, its well worth seeing in my opinion.

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 17/12/2006 11:51:27 PM   
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 What an amazing film Pi is but it takes a hell of a lot of attention but its bloody well worth it. Go watch it, no questions! Also check out Requiem For A Dream, one hell of a movie experience which has to be seen to be believed

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 17/12/2006 11:52:14 PM   
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 oh i agree, Requiem is brilliant, just wanted a general opinion on Pi, and with The Fountain coming out in January, thought it would be good to get the heads up on the fella's other piece of work.

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 17/12/2006 11:55:11 PM   
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 I thought it was brilliant, I prefer it to Requiem for a Dream. I didn't find it confusing at all, I assumed it would be. Its a very clever film yet there is no real logic to it all. Well worth the watch, it has a fairly short running time too which is good for this film I think.


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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 18/12/2006 12:18:34 AM   
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 Just read up in "The Rough Guide to: Cult Movies" - My Bible so to say

Under the chapter Philosophy, the author writes for Pi, the following:

""My new hypothesis: if we're built from Spirals while living in a giant Spiral, then is it possible that everything we put our hands to is infused with the Spiral?" If you just love it when movie characters talk like this, this is the movie for you. A fascinating study of character obsessed by the thought that numbers can explain everything, this makes the pseudo-philosophy of The Matrix look as intellectually challenging as a song from Oklahoma!. Driven by some fine cutting and shot through with a David Lynch wierdness."


is this a fair recommendation of the film?


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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 18/12/2006 4:33:50 PM   
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PI's very good it really freaked me out.  Very well shot.  He's a fine filmmaker all in all.

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 18/12/2006 8:55:28 PM   
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A little off topic but anyway, I saw Primer the other day, its a debut feature that reminds me a lot of Pi but I thinks its better and one of the best time travel films Ive seen

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 19/12/2006 3:35:01 PM   
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I saw that also.  It's interesting, i would say it's a film you have to see at the pictures as i did first time around to really get a sense of it.  It didn't quite grab me as much when i watched it on filmFour.  I don't think it's as good as PI but still a good compesions and if you haven't seen Primer take a look at it.

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 19/12/2006 3:37:09 PM   
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 I love the film Pi. It's so much more accessiable than Requiem. Although Requiem is absolutely brilliant, Pi is much easier to cope with.

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 19/12/2006 3:44:21 PM   
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I don't think you can compere the two in that sort of way.   You see i would say RFAD is hard and tough and dark in a grim sort of way.  And it is suposed to be more based on real people, where as Pi is more on top of you from the word go and is just different in the way the film plays out.   In some ways i prefier RFAD because of how great the acting is, but Pi on a artiistic level is maybe just as good.

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 19/12/2006 3:48:58 PM   
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I prefer "The Fountain".

I connected with Aronofsky's style after watching PI yes it suffers from a few traps of indy filmmaking but more than makes up for it with a amazing soundtrack which taps into the mathematic subject matter rather than just being "cool songs" like other directors might use.

Looking forward to "The Fountain"? you bloody well should be, it's amazing!

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 19/12/2006 3:58:52 PM   
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 Punch! You've seen it? Awesome. I've been waiting years for The Fountain! I cannot wait!

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 19/12/2006 5:01:14 PM   
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Wont' be going anywhere near this guy for a long time. I still haven't forgotten Requiem for a dream... I absolutely loath it. I'm sure the guy is a pleasant enough bloke - but I just don't like his style.



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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 19/12/2006 5:44:32 PM   
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I prefer "The Fountain".

I connected with Aronofsky's style after watching PI yes it suffers from a few traps of indy filmmaking but more than makes up for it with a amazing soundtrack which taps into the mathematic subject matter rather than just being "cool songs" like other directors might use.

Looking forward to "The Fountain"? you bloody well should be, it's amazing!


I beg to differ, I saw it at a special screening and must say I was dissapointed, visually stunning.......nothing more. The theme is wafer-thin and (although I hate this word with a passion)...it was PRETENTIOUS!!!

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 19/12/2006 6:14:20 PM   
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I saw that also.  It's interesting, i would say it's a film you have to see at the pictures as i did first time around to really get a sense of it.  It didn't quite grab me as much when i watched it on filmFour.  I don't think it's as good as PI but still a good compesions and if you haven't seen Primer take a look at it.


Just dont go watching Prime by mistake Awful film.

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 20/12/2006 2:22:16 PM   
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I don't know though their still quite different films although i can see how their alike.  And please sopme one explain what the problem is RFAD.  It's a wonderful movie.  It's powerful, Raw and Real!

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 20/12/2006 2:56:24 PM   
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I don't know though their still quite different films although i can see how their alike. And please sopme one explain what the problem is RFAD. It's a wonderful movie. It's powerful, Raw and Real!


Since you ask, and I really hope this doesn't effect your love for the film because I wouldn't want to ruin it for anyone, regardless of my thoughts, and that's all they are my thoughts nothing more, but basically: to be crude about it:

Start :Oh something bad is going to happen. BASH!!!!
Middle :Oh something bad is happening. BASH,!!!BASH!!!!
Ending: Oh look Something bad just happened BASH!!! BASH!!! BASH!!!! all over your head again and again and again.!!!!

Sorry but to me it was a simplistic melodrama based on very little, presented in a paint by numbers way. I don't usually have such thoughts about films, but this is right up there with one of my worst I'm afraid. It was like being spoon fed a dose of laxatives with your grandmother pretending the spoon is a train! and spitting "Choo Choo!" at you while you try and turn your head away.

I find there is a fraternity of filmakers who undertake "Raw and Real" subject matter as though it's a prerequisite to intelligence and sophisticated film-making and prance around thinking they are in some way a superior director to the kind who churn out summer blockbusters. I don't buy it.

...I must stop or else I'm likely to go on about the extremely dubious 'BAD MAN' character Keith David plays.

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 20/12/2006 4:32:20 PM   
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 Pi- One of the most greatest films ever made.

R.F.A.D.- Very good film, if a bit over-melodramatic.

The Fountain- HAVE TO SEE IT!!!



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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 20/12/2006 8:26:52 PM   
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Pi is one of the bestest films ever and I also prefer it over Requiem (though I love that as well). It's just so intense and claustrophobic and it's got a wicked soundtrack.

Aronofsky is probably my favourite filmmaker and I am dying to see The Fountain. Got the OST the other day and it really is ace (it's got Mansell, Kronos Quartet and Mogwai on it).

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 20/12/2006 9:10:25 PM   
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About THE FOUNTAIN:

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It was PRETENTIOUS!!!


How so?

I've not seen Aronofsky's latest yet, but I'd love to read more of your thoughts... REQUIEM left me cold.

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 16/9/2008 3:47:00 PM   
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 Part One: Interview With Darren Aronofsky from /Film (Suggested by rk_webb)

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 16/9/2008 3:58:19 PM   
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I beg to differ, I saw it at a special screening and must say I was dissapointed, visually stunning.......nothing more. The theme is wafer-thin and (although I hate this word with a passion)...it was PRETENTIOUS!!!


Confusing? Yes but pretentious? I'm not so sure.

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 16/9/2008 4:10:26 PM   
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Part One: Interview With Darren Aronofsky from /Film (Suggested by rk_webb)


Was it really worth dragging up a two year old thread just to share a link you've Ctrl+V'd off IMDB's front page?


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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 16/9/2008 4:16:09 PM   
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 My God this is an old thread and I didnt even realise it....

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 16/9/2008 5:50:09 PM   
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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 16/9/2008 8:10:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mor Del Ondel

quote:

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I don't know though their still quite different films although i can see how their alike. And please sopme one explain what the problem is RFAD. It's a wonderful movie. It's powerful, Raw and Real!



Start :Oh something bad is going to happen. BASH!!!!
Middle :Oh something bad is happening. BASH,!!!BASH!!!!
Ending: Oh look Something bad just happened BASH!!! BASH!!! BASH!!!! all over your head again and again and again.!!!!



I think the film you were watching is over here:

http://www.empireonline.com/forum/tm.asp?m=1619129&mpage=1&key=Transformers




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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 16/9/2008 8:51:37 PM   
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can't remember if I'd been smoking something or not,  but I totally "got" the movie


Ugh...

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RE: Darren Aronofsky - 16/9/2008 9:49:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mason Verger

Part One: Interview With Darren Aronofsky from /Film (Suggested by rk_webb)


Was it really worth dragging up a two year old thread just to share a link you've Ctrl+V'd off IMDB's front page?



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