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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 11:58:06 AM   
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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 12:18:22 PM   
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I also have a feeling I may enjoy this more than DK which for as much as I love, I feel is still hyped up to levels I don't really think it should be. Begins is the better film IMO

Great review, no spoilers, glad to see Hathaway gaining same plaudits and Im still very hopefull this could be the series best. Could Nolans Batman films become the new "THE Trilogy" ?

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 12:42:02 PM   
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It's also a very different feeling compared to this time last year when I was constantly refreshing rottentomatoes.com to see all the Green Lantern reviews coming in and my heart was sinking very fast.

Likewise I'm glad that Hathaway seems to have done a good job according to what I've read so far.

If this film is even remotely decent then it's the best trilogy ever for me (obviously reserving judgement until Friday)

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The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 12:58:25 PM   
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I like Empire's little quote under the review box on the front page of the website: "God help the bloke who reboots this."

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 1:40:32 PM   
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If they are intent on keeping Batman on the screen in the near future then I'm not sure a full reboot is the best course of action. For me with the impact these films have had they would need at least 6 years for full reboot. Personally im hoping this trilogy has closure but the door is left open for a continuation of sorts with possibly a different direction in tone. There are still some great villains I would love to see in this universe Nolan has created.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 2:12:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dirk Miggler

If they are intent on keeping Batman on the screen in the near future then I'm not sure a full reboot is the best course of action. For me with the impact these films have had they would need at least 6 years for full reboot. Personally im hoping this trilogy has closure but the door is left open for a continuation of sorts with possibly a different direction in tone. There are still some great villains I would love to see in this universe Nolan has created.


This quote may well give away the end of the film and any direction future films may take - if you have a crystal ball, or are an eidetic genius you may wish to stop reading now

According to one review - The Hollywood Reporter the way forward has been hinted at in the films final moments - "Even though Nolan and Bale have made it clear that The Dark Knight Rises marks their farewell to Bruce Wayne and Batman, the final shot clearly indicates the direction a follow-up offshoot series by Warner Bros. will likely take."

The review does contain some spoliers, those wanting to not know anything about the storyline are advised not to read it.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/dark-knight-rises-movie-review-batman-349354



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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 2:22:46 PM   
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Not daring to go more than 2 words into reviews at this stage.

For those brave souls out there risking it, any talk of Banes voice? Donít get the impression that this is an issue anymore.


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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 2:32:20 PM   
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I can't help myself and have read every review I can find!

Bane's voice is apparently fine.

Seriously avoid the Hollywood Reporter review though!

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 2:40:57 PM   
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Found the Empire review a bit confusing. And quite poorly written/structured. Who are they hiring to write these days? I swear the quality of reviews is slipping (arguably alongside the overall the quality of the magazine).

In my day Empire was all about etc.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 2:49:58 PM   
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I think I, like most people, am most pleased to hear about Hatheway being a success. Can't lie: i was not so ecsatic when she was cast but if she's good: she's good!

I'm guessing ultimately it will be

1. BB
2. DKR
3. TDK

in terms of quality.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 3:06:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Discodez

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dirk Miggler

If they are intent on keeping Batman on the screen in the near future then I'm not sure a full reboot is the best course of action. For me with the impact these films have had they would need at least 6 years for full reboot. Personally im hoping this trilogy has closure but the door is left open for a continuation of sorts with possibly a different direction in tone. There are still some great villains I would love to see in this universe Nolan has created.


THIS IS SPOILERIFFIC......
According to one review - The Hollywood Reporter the way forward has been hinted at in the films final moments - "Even though Nolan and Bale have made it clear that The Dark Knight Rises marks their farewell to Bruce Wayne and Batman, the final shot clearly indicates the direction a follow-up offshoot series by Warner Bros. will likely take."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/dark-knight-rises-movie-review-batman-349354

The review does contain some spoliers, those wanting to not know anything about the storyline are advised not to read it.



Fuck. I am definately avoiding that review. That one quote feels more spoilery than a bunch of stuff I've already read, and it seems to seriously allude to how this one ends up. I mean, it cant be any more obvious than that quote can it? You dont have to do much reading between the lines..... Get some spoiler warnings on that quote.....


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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 3:35:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: porntrooper


quote:

ORIGINAL: Discodez

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dirk Miggler

If they are intent on keeping Batman on the screen in the near future then I'm not sure a full reboot is the best course of action. For me with the impact these films have had they would need at least 6 years for full reboot. Personally im hoping this trilogy has closure but the door is left open for a continuation of sorts with possibly a different direction in tone. There are still some great villains I would love to see in this universe Nolan has created.


THIS IS SPOILERIFFIC......
According to one review - The Hollywood Reporter the way forward has been hinted at in the films final moments - "Even though Nolan and Bale have made it clear that The Dark Knight Rises marks their farewell to Bruce Wayne and Batman, the final shot clearly indicates the direction a follow-up offshoot series by Warner Bros. will likely take."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/dark-knight-rises-movie-review-batman-349354

The review does contain some spoliers, those wanting to not know anything about the storyline are advised not to read it.



Fuck. I am definately avoiding that review. That one quote feels more spoilery than a bunch of stuff I've already read, and it seems to seriously allude to how this one ends up. I mean, it cant be any more obvious than that quote can it? You dont have to do much reading between the lines..... Get some spoiler warnings on that quote.....



I thought I had put a spoiler warning in by saying "The review does contain some spoliers, those wanting to not know anything about the storyline are advised not to read it."

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 3:51:47 PM   
porntrooper

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Discodez


quote:

ORIGINAL: porntrooper


quote:

ORIGINAL: Discodez

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dirk Miggler

If they are intent on keeping Batman on the screen in the near future then I'm not sure a full reboot is the best course of action. For me with the impact these films have had they would need at least 6 years for full reboot. Personally im hoping this trilogy has closure but the door is left open for a continuation of sorts with possibly a different direction in tone. There are still some great villains I would love to see in this universe Nolan has created.


THIS IS SPOILERIFFIC......
According to one review - The Hollywood Reporter the way forward has been hinted at in the films final moments - "Even though Nolan and Bale have made it clear that The Dark Knight Rises marks their farewell to Bruce Wayne and Batman, the final shot clearly indicates the direction a follow-up offshoot series by Warner Bros. will likely take."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/dark-knight-rises-movie-review-batman-349354

The review does contain some spoliers, those wanting to not know anything about the storyline are advised not to read it.



Fuck. I am definately avoiding that review. That one quote feels more spoilery than a bunch of stuff I've already read, and it seems to seriously allude to how this one ends up. I mean, it cant be any more obvious than that quote can it? You dont have to do much reading between the lines..... Get some spoiler warnings on that quote.....



I thought I had put a spoiler warning in by saying "The review does contain some spoliers, those wanting to not know anything about the storyline are advised not to read it."


You did, but you put it in after the offending quote. I think the quote you posted is pretty bad, like I say, I dont think it needs a genius to see what it's getting at.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 4:19:08 PM   
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Well not knowing what the final shot is (and it certainly isn't revealed in that hollywood reporter review) then I certainly can't work it out, but I will go back and edit my original post - sorry for ruining the film for you.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 4:28:27 PM   
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Other reviews to stay clear of would be:

Robbie Collin - Telegraph (5 stars)
Xan Brooks - Guardian (4 stars)

I clearly have no self-control and I'm reading pretty much everything so if I come across any more I'll let you know.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 4:29:49 PM   
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Okay, I'm hyped up to levels never before reached for any film ever after looking at Rottentomatoes.

Seriously can't wait for this. I'm probably going to stay out of the review thread and stay in this one because those threads are so awful to start with. This is a great thread.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 4:31:53 PM   
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Also Marshall Fine (Hollywood and Fine) has just given the film the first "rotten" review and has, perhaps somewhat unsurprisingly, been immediately referred to as a "shit-faced moron". Ah, the internet in all it's glory!

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 4:41:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rob

Also Marshall Fine (Hollywood and Fine) has just given the film the first "rotten" review and has, perhaps somewhat unsurprisingly, been immediately referred to as a "shit-faced moron". Ah, the internet in all it's glory!


LOL! I just read that comment aloud in the office...hilarious!

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 4:49:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rob

Also Marshall Fine (Hollywood and Fine) has just given the film the first "rotten" review and has, perhaps somewhat unsurprisingly, been immediately referred to as a "shit-faced moron". Ah, the internet in all it's glory!




Someone should be expecting a fresh dog poo through the letterbox any time soon.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 5:47:20 PM   
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LOL, loved this comment:

'This is the critic rottentomatoes deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll flame him. Because he can take it.'


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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 6:13:47 PM   
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I can't understand how that mechanical ball reactor overwrite Batman history and creating a world filled with all the DC heroes. Also Zod punching reality also had an effect. WTF

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 6:57:55 PM   
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Speculation/ Potential Spoilers.

1. Batman is not gonna die, have none of you read The Dark Knight Returns? Jeez!

2. Seriously, he is not. This film is aimed at wide demographic from kids to old folks. The Studio would not allow it.

3. Still don't believe me, woah, you guys are stubborn,lets take a look at the title shall we? The Dark Knight Rises, THAT"S RISES, not falls, not gets his ass beat, not loses, not is defeated.

4. So the only definitive way of ending a Superhero story is killing the Superhero? RIIIIIIIGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHT?

Also I am willing to bet Catwoman does away with Bane...she would be ideal for that task, she has no rules, so that is what I think is gonna happen.

Nolan made Inception, think about that ending and apply it here, I think the ending will imply alot, rather than just tell.

What do you think?

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 7:04:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr Terrific

Speculation/ Potential Spoilers.

1. Batman is not gonna die, have none of you read The Dark Knight Returns? Jeez!

2. Seriously, he is not. This film is aimed at wide demographic from kids to old folks. The Studio would not allow it.

3. Still don't believe me, woah, you guys are stubborn,lets take a look at the title shall we? The Dark Knight Rises, THAT"S RISES, not falls, not gets his ass beat, not loses, not is defeated.

4. So the only definitive way of ending a Superhero story is killing the Superhero? RIIIIIIIGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHT?

Also I am willing to bet Catwoman does away with Bane...she would be ideal for that task, she has no rules, so that is what I think is gonna happen.

Nolan made Inception, think about that ending and apply it here, I think the ending will imply alot, rather than just tell.

What do you think?


Regards points 1-4, Batman may not die, but Bruce may. Batman as a symbol will likely live on, either by someone else (my guess) or as a legend/myth. If Bruce doesn't die, I could see him retiring/ending his time as Bats. As per my earlier speculation, the more i read the more I think the end may include a passing of the torch, possibly shown, possibly implied.

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The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 9:01:42 PM   
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THE FOLLOWING POST DOES NOT CONTAIN SPOILERS, JUST MY OWN SPECULATION... (Just in case anyone thinks I'm reacting to a review!)

I literally have no clue what they have done with the end, or that final scene/shot. I'm most curious about that. But even so I cannot imagine a 'passing of the torch' scene in this film. That suggests that the story will continue but we all know that this is the very end. They cannot contradict the marketing hype that this is all finished, surely. Nolan has too much integrity for that.

Nolan's universe is over. Someone else will come in, maybe in a few years, and start again. Whether it uses the audience's prior knowledge of the universe (ala Superman Returns) and doesn't bother with the origin, or they do indeed take a completely different approach to the source material (Batman is ripe for it).



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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 9:12:49 PM   
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Speculation
What if Bane is really Ducard from Begins and the mask is for injuries suffered in the train crash?
I'm also available to predict lottery numbers.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 10:33:32 PM   
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In my first post in nearly 2 years, I just wanna say that I can't wait to see the last outing of Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy. I missed the chance of watching the other two in the cinema because I was not bothered to go to the cinema during both instances.

The future of the Batman franchise has 3 possible outcomes:

1. The Christopher Nolan envisioned Gotham universe is continued minus Nolan directing and Bale as the Dark Knight (Same filming locations, same Tumbler, same Batpod, different actors).
2. Warner Bro execs screams 'REBOOT!' and there is a new trilogy of Batman films with an all new vision of Gotham.
3. After The Dark Knight Rises, there is truly no more Batman films, irrespective of any or lack of presence/creative input from Nolan. Warner Bros has managed to grasp the art of constantly changing & evolving and avoided being repetitive Luddites by milking the franchise to death i.e. churning out more Batman films that are vastly inferior.

Number 3 is a hard-core fans dream except it will never happen for obvious reasons.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 10:44:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Alistair

THE FOLLOWING POST DOES NOT CONTAIN SPOILERS, JUST MY OWN SPECULATION... (Just in case anyone thinks I'm reacting to a review!)

I literally have no clue what they have done with the end, or that final scene/shot. I'm most curious about that. But even so I cannot imagine a 'passing of the torch' scene in this film. That suggests that the story will continue but we all know that this is the very end. They cannot contradict the marketing hype that this is all finished, surely. Nolan has too much integrity for that.



I've got a theory on how it will end. This is also coming from not having read any reviews (aside from Empire's) and thus no spoilers.

Fade to black.

THE DARK KNIGHT RISES

Fade in.

Ext. A beautiful white sand and blue sea beach in a non-specific tropical country.

Bruce and Alfred are sat at a bar drinking cocktails.

Alfred.
'Batman aye... what a palaver!'

Bruce.
'Oi oi'

Freeze frame on Bruce's face. Fade out.

Credits.


With this as the soundtrack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5yXCDw427w

Perfect.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 10:58:52 PM   
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Well that would certainly be a mind-blowing final scene

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 17/7/2012 10:04:47 AM   
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I really need to stop reading reviews as I think I've now got a pretty good idea of what happens. My own fault really.

Rottentomatoes have disabled the comments section as anyone who gave a negative review was getting absolutely pilloried. Some of the stuff on there was absolutely ridiculous...although some was also quite funny and I'm still chuckling at "shit-faced moron".

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The Dark Knight Rises - 17/7/2012 10:15:37 AM   
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Shit-faced moron is my new insult to anyone who annoys me in work.

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