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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 13/7/2012 8:53:06 PM   
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Argh! One week indeed...and lo, the reviews will come flooding in from all angles.

I've been so tempted to go on the forums of SHH but have kept away for a whole week. I think I can just about manage to stay away from there for another week.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 13/7/2012 9:02:56 PM   
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I think I can hold out from spoiler filled reviews until I see it the following wednesday, it's getting caught reading something I think has no spoilers and someone has a dangle berry sitting in there that might get me.
So when is the embargo lifted?

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The Dark Knight Rises - 13/7/2012 9:26:10 PM   
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I think the embargo is until the 18th, something like that. Although there will be a lot of advanced screenings next week so the internet will be full of reviews before any of us get to see it, I'm sure.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 13/7/2012 9:26:25 PM   
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Saw this new TV spot earlier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PayRJfUvK3Q

Quite comedic. And don't worry, nothing spoiler-y

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The Dark Knight Rises - 13/7/2012 9:34:24 PM   
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Haha, good TV spot! Nice to see them splashing a bit of humour in to the marketing campaign. I especially like the bit where the policeman shoots Batman

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 14/7/2012 10:21:44 AM   
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The dark knight released reviews and the buzz around Ledgers performance was true, this one has no official reviews coming out and promises big, epic action, for me the strengths of the first two were there script/characters, the second's weakest points were the 'big' bits. Anybody concerned it might sacrifice character for spectacle and reviews are held off as word of mouth won't be as good?

Hope not obviously and still very excited to see this, just hoping these aren't portents.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 14/7/2012 10:45:46 AM   
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quote:

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The dark knight released reviews and the buzz around Ledgers performance was true, this one has no official reviews coming out and promises big, epic action, for me the strengths of the first two were there script/characters, the second's weakest points were the 'big' bits. Anybody concerned it might sacrifice character for spectacle and reviews are held off as word of mouth won't be as good?

Hope not obviously and still very excited to see this, just hoping these aren't portents.


I think it's more likely the film is so hotly anticipated they've not felt the need to publicise it with reviews at the potential cost of leaking spoilers.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 14/7/2012 6:55:23 PM   
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Unlike the Dark Knight?

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 14/7/2012 7:48:45 PM   
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The Dark Knight wasn't the ending though. This one is.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 14/7/2012 8:51:27 PM   
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I have my tickets for the Batman Begins/The Dark Knight double bill on Tuesday evening at Cineworld Sheffield, then I'm seeing Rises at a preview in Wednesday, and then I have tickets for an 8am showing on Friday. I don't think I've been this excited about a movie. Only time really may have been the release of Phantom Menace or Jurassic Park. Have read some of the non-spoilery first reactions and things are sounding promising.

Am still standing by earlier predictions... possible spoilers... but if youve read any of my other posts you know where I am going with it.....

Gotham's gunna fall hard and more literally than any trailers have shown.
JGL's orphan history is going to tie him into Bruce's overall story arc - and I am still not ruling out a Batman takeover!


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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 14/7/2012 9:30:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: porntrooper

Am still standing by earlier predictions... possible spoilers... but if you've read any of my other posts you know where I am going with it.....
Gotham's gunna fall hard and more literally than any trailers have shown.


I agree. I think there's much more to the logo and poster than people think - Crumbling buildings, destruction - Gotham is going down, big time. How it unfolds on screen will be interesting to see.

I am enjoying listening to the soundtrack at the moment, while editing a friend's wedding photos, and something has struck me. This is my own personal opinion, and not based on any known fact just yet - I know we've discussed this previously but I believe now more than ever that we're going to be met with the death of Bruce/Batman come the end of the film. At first I thought it might just be Batman that 'dies' and Bruce lives on, but the final two tracks of the soundtrack 'Necessary Evil' and 'Rise' are both very tragic and solemn sounding. They do not give the impression of an optimistic ending, not at all. They give the impression of a sad ending.

Edit: I've just noticed on the track 'Necessary Evil' what sounds like the Joker's theme from TDK (that kind of electronic/metallic note). I wonder why Zimmer put that in there (obviously nothing to do with the Joker in this film, but still begs the question why).

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 14/7/2012 11:26:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Alistair

I know we've discussed this previously but I believe now more than ever that we're going to be met with the death of Bruce/Batman come the end of the film. At first I thought it might just be Batman that 'dies' and Bruce lives on, but the final two tracks of the soundtrack 'Necessary Evil' and 'Rise' are both very tragic and solemn sounding. They do not give the impression of an optimistic ending, not at all. They give the impression of a sad ending.



Possible spoilers....

I think it may be a Bruce dies, Batman lives type deal. I know people have dismissed it as madness on here a few times, but I do still believe that a Bruce dying, Blake taking over to keep the legend going would work in this trilogy... I could really, really see it happening. I know a lot of people would hate it, but I think it could be great.

With regards the the sombre mood of some tracks on the OST, I suggest you try to get hold of the bonus tracks, in particular 'The End'. It's another really great track and another that really supports the fact that the finale of this film will include a lot of emotions. I can really hear the downbeat side of things alongside some really great pieces that could accompany the 'rise' of the Bat as a symbol on screen. Bring on Wednesday!!!!

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 15/7/2012 12:15:48 AM   
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POTENTIAL SPOILERS...

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With regards the the sombre mood of some tracks on the OST, I suggest you try to get hold of the bonus tracks, in particular 'The End'. It's another really great track and another that really supports the fact that the finale of this film will include a lot of emotions.


Thanks for that, just found the track on YouTube...what can I say? Sounds very sad and, while containing the same theme used throughout the three films, it is a very different piece of music to what we've heard before. Incredible.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 15/7/2012 3:11:28 AM   
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Oh god I can't wait. Watched Begins yesterday. Still a brilliant movie even after seeing it so much. TDK will come later in the week.

I'm not going to see it until the Wednesday after it's released though . Not a happy panda.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 15/7/2012 5:49:38 PM   
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As somebody else recently posted, I'm done with this thread until after I've seen the finished product. By some massive miracle, I've managed to stay relatively spoiler free, so am looking foward to Nolan and co delivering a few surprises this Friday. One last thing. Does anyone think a refresher viewing of Begins, and Dark Knight will take away from seeing the new one this week. Havn't seen either for a good couple of years, but imagine if you had just rewatched Empire, then sat through Jedi for the first time - that's a pretty big act to follow. And maybe I'm bit bothered about suffering Batman fatigue...

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 15/7/2012 8:13:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: film man aidy
As somebody else recently posted, I'm done with this thread until after I've seen the finished product. By some massive miracle, I've managed to stay relatively spoiler free, so am looking foward to Nolan and co delivering a few surprises this Friday. One last thing. Does anyone think a refresher viewing of Begins, and Dark Knight will take away from seeing the new one this week. Havn't seen either for a good couple of years, but imagine if you had just rewatched Empire, then sat through Jedi for the first time - that's a pretty big act to follow. And maybe I'm bit bothered about suffering Batman fatigue...


I'd say watch them because this final film is closely tied with Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, so you'll probably pick up on things that will connect with TDKR. I re-watched Batman Begins last week, and will probably watch TDK sometime in the coming week. Also, I think it just kinda mentally gets you in the mood to re-watch the films, too.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 15/7/2012 10:30:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Alistair

quote:

ORIGINAL: film man aidy
As somebody else recently posted, I'm done with this thread until after I've seen the finished product. By some massive miracle, I've managed to stay relatively spoiler free, so am looking foward to Nolan and co delivering a few surprises this Friday. One last thing. Does anyone think a refresher viewing of Begins, and Dark Knight will take away from seeing the new one this week. Havn't seen either for a good couple of years, but imagine if you had just rewatched Empire, then sat through Jedi for the first time - that's a pretty big act to follow. And maybe I'm bit bothered about suffering Batman fatigue...


I'd say watch them because this final film is closely tied with Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, so you'll probably pick up on things that will connect with TDKR. I re-watched Batman Begins last week, and will probably watch TDK sometime in the coming week. Also, I think it just kinda mentally gets you in the mood to re-watch the films, too.


Yeah I agree. I'm planning to watch Batman Begins on Wednesday night followed by The Dark Knight on Thursday evening, then the main event in the Manchester IMAX on Friday.

I think the purpose of a third installment in a trilogy is to tie into its predecessors in the series so watching BB and TDK beforehand will definitely benefit the experience of TDKR.

As written above, it looks the film is coming full circle with certain elements, so it will be cool to have the story so far fresh in the mind.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 15/7/2012 11:30:34 PM   
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After watching Begins, some of the stuff in the trailers for Rises became so much more effective. I can only imagine TDK will add to that too. Can't wait to see how it all comes to an end. I can safely say I haven't looked forward to a film this much, like, ever.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 15/7/2012 11:34:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Coyleone

After watching Begins, some of the stuff in the trailers for Rises became so much more effective. I can only imagine TDK will add to that too. Can't wait to see how it all comes to an end. I can safely say I haven't looked forward to a film this much, like, ever.


Same here, and that's saying something for me as I have greatly anticipated so many blockbusters over the years. But this is the big one.

And I entirely agree with you with regards to Batman Begins. TDKR, in terms of tone and structure ( as far as I can tell) seems like the perfect blend of both Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. Quite remarkable, consistent filmmaking.

A few comments were made months ago saying 'will TDK feel like the odd one out?' - The answer is a resounding 'no'. Nolan was obviously fully aware of the bigger picture when making these films.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 12:17:31 AM   
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NOT A SPOILER

Sorry to burst the bubble, but common sense and the fact that Christian Bale said a couple of months back he was game for another in interviews kinda suggests something about the ending don't you think....???

Game for another with Nolan..now we know that will not happen...but..yeah, it does put THAT thought to rest.

RE: Sadness at films end, is him coming to terms with all the death and killing of his family....?.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 9:03:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr Terrific
NOT A SPOILER
Sorry to burst the bubble, but common sense and the fact that Christian Bale said a couple of months back he was game for another in interviews kinda suggests something about the ending don't you think....???
Game for another with Nolan..now we know that will not happen...but..yeah, it does put THAT thought to rest.
RE: Sadness at films end, is him coming to terms with all the death and killing of his family....?.


I'm just reacting to the tone of the music, and I'm just guessing. Bale did indeed suggest that he'd be up for another one, but I'm not sure if he was just fibbing. But who knows, we're just discussing here so we can come back to this in a few day's time when we've all seen it.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 9:07:11 AM   
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I'm not going to read Empire's review (unless someone can tell me categorically that it doesn't contain spoilers), but here's their review summary...(5 stars)...

With spectacle in abundance and sexiness in (supporting) parts, this is superhero filmmaking on an unprecedented scale. Rises may lack the surprise of Begins or the anarchy of Knight, but it makes up for that in pure emotion. A fitting epitaph for the hero Gotham deserves.


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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 9:47:40 AM   
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no spoilers at all.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 10:36:10 AM   
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DON'T READ THE LINK IF YOU WANT TO AVOID SPOILERS but David Letterman is in trouble over this
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/4431333/David-Letterman-enrages-Batman-fans-by-appearing-to-reveal-new-movies-ending.html

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The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 10:41:11 AM   
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I heard that he spoiled it. Why would he do that? What a pleb! I shall definitely be avoiding that review!

P.S - Cheers Discodez! I'm still not sure I want to read it just in case anything is eluded to.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 10:42:32 AM   
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DON'T READ THE LINK IF YOU WANT TO AVOID SPOILERS but David Letterman is in trouble over this
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/4431333/David-Letterman-enrages-Batman-fans-by-appearing-to-reveal-new-movies-ending.html


Heard about this (not clicking on any links obviously ). I imagine Nolan would be pretty angry as well as the fans...

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 10:44:54 AM   
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Empire's review is a strange fit for me. 5 stars but the review seems to make it sound like a 4 star.

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 11:19:40 AM   
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Quite a few of the reviews seem to say that it falls short of TDK but still manages to be a hugely successful and fitting end to the trilogy...fine by me!

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 11:39:59 AM   
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Quite a few of the reviews seem to say that it falls short of TDK but still manages to be a hugely successful and fitting end to the trilogy...fine by me!


Yea, that seems to be the feeling I get from the few I've read.

Over the last four years I've actually moved more into the 'Begins is better than Dark Knight' camp, and the feeling I get from footage is that this has more in common with the first film than the second, so I'm convinced that I'll probably end up in a Begins>Rises>Knight kinda place once all is said and done. I'm just really chuffed that Nolan appears to have ended it on a high. Wouldve been so dissapointing if this trilogy ended on a bum note.

Oh, a word of warning, not that you vigilant people need it, but spoilers are dropping everywhere now. Tread carefully in the usual places, I just came across one that, whilst not really a spoiler (it's something we've been speculating on here for a months regards how Bane takes down Gotham) for me and, I'd guess, for many in here; it could be considered spoilery and certainly suggests people are dropping scene by scene breakdowns all over the fucking place.

Only two more sleeps......

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RE: The Dark Knight Rises - 16/7/2012 11:49:59 AM   
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Im also of the same opinion. Most of the reviews im reading all seem to suggest 4 stars. Also, if you are inclined to reading reviews, dont read the Hollywood reporter. I read about a third and had to stop because it was quite detailed in terms of the plot outline. So be warned! But I am glad overall that people are saying this is a fitting end to the trilogy, although in a way its a bit sad that its all coming to an end!

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